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Re: Why Slave-Era Barriers to Black Literacy Still Matter

Nmaginate ·
Another Wealth Gap, Meritocracy MYTH Busting link: http://www.impactpress.com/articles/augsep01/divide80901.html
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
And YOU seem to know the talking points of the WHITE SOCIALIST rather well. You see MBM - you have an open ended heart. You and other fundamentalist believe that you have MORAL SUPERIORITY because you stand for PROVIDING MAXIMUM BENEFIT FOR THE MASSES. How touching. You fail miserably when it comes to the concept of EXPECTING SOMETHEM FROM THE POOR. My wife and I COULD have a 3rd, 4th or even 8th baby. We know that by doing so it would impact us financially, time-wise, housing-wise and...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Empty Purnata ·
Oh, now I get it. In comparison to other middle class communities of other races, unfortunately the Black Middle Class seems to be busy trying to emmulate the White Middle Class. A community of selfish, over-privileged "rugged individualists" with that tired old "conservative Protestant work ethic" of "everyone pull yourself up by your own bootstraps". Pesonally, I think African-Americans need to get away from this "middleclassness" mentality. We should be concerned about improving our...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
MBM: I am really flattered at the being the basis for so many of your posts. I figured that by now you could at least represent my position more correctly. Founding Premise: Some people reside inside of a system that organizes resources and creates wealth. Some people reside outside of such a system. The challenge is to CREATE a system that generates wealth and a high standard of living for the people that are of interest to you balancing this demand with other values that are important to...
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Re: Reparations and Poor Whites

MBM ·
Sorry, I didn't communicate the point well enough. It's not just that poverty exists, its that because America utilized slavery, it denied poor and working class whites the opportunity to feed their families, earn income, and build wealth. Absent slavery there still would have been an American economy. America would have had to pay the poor and working class folks here. If we can acknowledge a connectivity between the wrong committed to slaves and their descendents today, is it also not...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

MBM ·
Too bad, CF, you don't understand that those in power and wealth got there in large part through illegal, immoral, and exploitive ways. They seek to "lock in" their immorally obtained lead in society and fear true and free competition with anyone. And BTW - this has NOTHING to do with political and social conservatism.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Interesting. So let me ask you MBM - you have some measure of wealth in your posession. A house, a car, computer equipment. Can we conclude that you have gotten these things as well from skullduggery and thuggery but just is lesser portion than they did? Did Michael Vic or Earl Graves, both of whom are millionaires receive their fortunes in the manner that you indicate? You are throwing out some gross generalizations today man.
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Re: Afrocentric versus Eurocentric

Fine ·
Yes. ------------------- Dusty Elbow: We "can" very well talk about Americas slavery and there is alot to talk about: Connecticut Military Law, 1784--forbade blacks from serving in military First Naturalization Law, 1790--congress declared US a white nation Federal Militia Law, 1792--only whites could enlists in peacetime militia Fugitive Slave Law, 1793--protected slaveholders rights, discouraged blacks from running away Virginia Migration Law, 1793--forbade free blacks from entering that...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Nmaginate ·
Your slip is showing... I can see your PUSSY! BTW, I missed your comment-response when MBM said this, earlier, where you thought the word "LIBERALIZE" had some special magic there, too: But thanks for showing your True White DEFERENCE Colors. And, I'm the one who knows calls you "WHITE". Kevin, I believe, calls you a Foot Shufflin', Bowed Head, Uncle Tom, NUTS ON YOUR CHIN (oops! That's Faheem) Lackey NEGRO! Get it straight, WHITE BOY! And while you're at it, direct your comments to the MBM...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Empty Purnata ·
CF, stop pretending that you "care". You aren't concerned that we are "placing an ideology above our own concerns", you are upset that that ideology is not Capitalism. If we were 100% Capitalists, you would have no problem. If we placed Capitalism above our own concerns, you wouldn't care. You are just upset that we are not Capitalists (well, at least I'm not, I'm not sure if MBM is a Capitalist or a Socialist he comes off as a Socialized Capitalist to me). I can get along just fine with...
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Re: The Wall Street Project: The Continuing Conversation for Parity

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
PARITY? That's funny - when I listen to Bloomberg or CNBC each morning on the ride to work I hear about "financial justification", "shareholder value" and "bottom line profits". It seems to me that Sir Jesse Jackson is attempting to apply to Wall street some concepts that don't necessarily fall into their way of doing business - and that is GREEN. Very soon few workers will need to worry about their "Pensions". An increasing number of their employers will be switching to 401k programs. The...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
So much for Affirmative Action, and like minded progressives and any benefit they bring to the Black community. There are definitely more pressing issues and concerns, based on credibility and not the fiction, and fallacies of any Kevin41, Empty Purnata, etc., etc..... ...such activity would not be considered B.S. by those victimized by this activity. More likely those who make excuses for our own inept Black elected leadership, those who change the subject matter to compare the senseless...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

FireFly ·
First off, I think it's important for everyone to assess and reassess their goals frequently. Because life, and our lives don't remain static. So it is a great question to ask of ourselves - what is our version of the American (or Australian) dream? Wanting a house (territory), a car (mobility), and income (security) is fine, however the perception and reality of the so-called American Dream depend entirely on the person dreaming the dream. OK call me a wet blanket but... A lot of people...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Empty Purnata ·
But, I have a few theories on who and what CON-Feed is (and he's not the only one here like himself, Michael Lofton doesn't count, he's a Spambot): 1) A CONSERVATIVE WHITE GUY WHO VIEWS BLACK PEOPLE AS BEING "BENEATH HIM" COMING HERE TO SPAM THE SITE WITH TRIPE (WHILE PRETENDING TO BE BLACK) THINKING HE CAN GET US TO BREAK DOWN AND ACT ALL "NIGGERISH" SO HE CAN GET A GOOD LAUGH. 2) An extremely sheltered Black man who grew up in a middle-class/rich home by Black Middleclass parents who told...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Nmaginate ·
Yahoo!! PUSSY!!! Over << here >> PUSSY!!! Man, I feel like the Gap Band singing, "You Can't Keep Runnin'"... But your PUNK ASS is full of sprints. Why is it that RHETORIC is the only and best tool in your busted ass tool box, CON-Feed? Never the one to engage. So you just BULLSHIT! Now, let's have it. What is the source of your Flailing, Grasping ISSUES? You obviously will never understand or submit to comprehending ENLISH!!! What's up with this connection you're trying to...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
Only helping white people begin the as you call it "truth-telling". The only thing I "want white people to get out of the dialog" is to listen to and understand what is needed for equal rights, equal opportunities for all people on the planet. In this instance I am talking about African Americans and white North Americans. What do I want black people and white people to "get out of it"? An end the imbalance of "white priviledge" to create a truly inclusive human race. You keep telling me...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
A straight line is always the direct route. Why the detour? Why would White people need to know "What It's Like To Be Black"... why would they need to "listen" to anything like that when you say the object is to End White Privilege? A straight line... Very few white people ever think about 'being white' and what that means... white privilege. Okay. Why isn't White Privilege - i.e. White people taking it upon themselves to examine White Privilege - an INTRAracial Dialog you're trying to seek?
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
EVEN MORE!! http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml More responses to "Do Black Men Still Want Us?" Spirited comments about romantic options and worries Letters to the Editor Published October 2, 2004 Where is the love? A magazine asks whether black men still desire black women. Eight men offer their answers. Black women speak out Earlier this week, African-American men answered women's question "Do Black Men Still Want Us?' Now women discuss their romantic...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
Nobody's saying you have to date an ugly or ignorant or disrepectful blue collar brother just because he's a brother . Likewise, a brother shouldn't feel compelled to date an unattractive (to him) sister just because of her education, wealth or career . What we are saying is that a person (man or woman) not having a "professional" job, does not make them less qualified to be a good mate. A college degree is not THE gold standard for intelligence. Ultimately, I think you have to go where your...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Little Fella: In all seriousness - could YOU lay out a plan of how the latent effects of "380 years of racism and oppression" are going to finally be dissolved? Will this be from ACTIONS BY WHITE FOLKS or actions CENTRALLY FOCUSED ON BLACK FOLKS? For all of the huff and puff that you display and your supposed Black authority I find you and others to be uniquely CLUELESS when it comes to translating your ideas into workable solutions in the REAL WORLD among Black people. It seems to me that...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
Frenchy - There were three posts after qty226's response before yours. Which one touted a double standard? Here's mine again: Where's the double standard? There was no scolding. If you set looks aside, how do you know that a blue collar or non-degreed person can't be a good mate for you? Note there have been very few discussions about people's physical preferences, outside of Rowe. We are talking about personality traits. If you know that common ratio of women to men is 10 to 1 on college...
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Re: Al Sharpton Accuses Bush Of Fueling Homophobia Among Blacks

Black Viking ·
Is that going to change if they get married? Is this number a reflection of tax breaks that married people get, and what other variables are there? I have a hard time believing that this income gap is actually caused by being a same-sex couple. The same Census shows white same-sex couples actually have more median income than white heterosexual couples. If this is true, then we deserve what we got. This is another great example of ideological manipulation . It's pretty easy to follow. It...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Nmaginate ·
SUNNUBIAN, we've had several discussions here about that African-American Congress... In my view, the first order of business would be to Coordinate Organizations, etc. with Similar Functions. And COORDINATION is the whole idea of UNITY as I see it. The fundamental philosophy would be that We're All In This Together with the fundamental assumption being that We All Want What's Best For The Black Community. For this to happen, IMO, it will take a Phil Jackson like statesperson who can keep...
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Re: Black enterprise: Understanding Africa's Persistent Poverty

umbrarchist ·
If you own the tree then you make those people pay for being in your shade. You must do capitalism right. Yeah spread the stupid imperialist thinking. I have emailed 2500 economists about the depreciation they ignore. 15 responses so far. umbra
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Sister Marimba Ani (1994), speaking on the collective hypocrisy exhibited by Europeans in Chapter one of her book Yurugu: An African-Centered Critique of European Thought and Behavior believes hypocrisy is a "way of life" for Europeans. She would undoubtedly agree with the explanations you and Brother Nayo have provided. Hypocrisy as a Way of Life Marimba Ani Within the nature of European culture there exists a statement of value or of "moral" behavior that has no meaning for the members of...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
I will respectfully disagree with portions of your post. To suggest men only view things in the short term is suspect. To further assert that looks rule over all is suspect. Many of us said that core values & personality carry the day. The physical is the initial attractor, but not the permanent attractor. What that means is a less attractive women with personality has to work a little harder to get a guy to stick around to notice those core values. The same applies for men. Is that...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
I also want to be clear that many of the examples I put out are people with ADVANCED degrees who are making serious contributions to the world but who might make $40,000-$90,000 versus $100,000-$150,000/yr - and some of them ARE Doctors but not MDs. It's just that these people deal in the world of ideas/knowledge and don't have monetary gain or more conventional types of prestige/status as a motivator. I was deliberately trying to gauge the female response to a group of very educated and...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Rowe ·
I don't need to click on every thread to know what to expect. Considering the media already bombards us with images of Black women as sluts and hoes, yes I do find these images offensive, and I do become uncomfortable looking at them. I imagine it's the same feeling that you may get whenever you turn on the news to see yet another Black man being handcuffed and hauled off to jail. My purpose for visiting African-America.org, and other progressive venues, is to get away from these demonizing...
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Re: Gunmen attack Nigeria oil complex

Texas Star ·
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa/01/25/nigeria.hostages.reut/index.html WARRI, Nigeria (Reuters) -- Villagers fled Nigeria's lawless delta on Wednesday amid fears of military reprisals after a wave of attacks on foreign oil companies by ethnic Ijaw militia. The army deployed more troops to key installations and oil companies tightened security around their offices a day after heavily armed men stormed the headquarters of Italian oil firm Agip, robbing a bank on the premises and killing...
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Re: The Elephant in the Room While Black Kids Misbehave? Single Parent Homes

Nmaginate ·
Or we can actually be honest and get off the ideological soapboxes. How about that? ************************************************************************** ************************************************************************** Compare & Contrast: "We can either march forward under the illusion that a discipline gap exists because teachers are a bunch of racists ..." "What remains unclear is how people who are concerned with fairness and equality would seek to institutionalize the...
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Re: The Elephant in the Room While Black Kids Misbehave? Single Parent Homes

Nmaginate ·
I'll repeat it one more time, CON-Feed, then I'll ask for your response: ************************************************************************** Investigations of behavior, race, and discipline have yet to provide evidence that African American students misbehave at a significantly higher rate. Studies have failed to find racial disparities in misbehavior sufficient to account for the typically wide racial differences in school punishment.
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Re: The Elephant in the Room While Black Kids Misbehave? Single Parent Homes

sunnubian ·
______________________________________________ The name of the article he wrote was, "Race Gap in school discipline persists in Seattle." Unless he meant the race gap between some other races of people in those schools, 'white folks' would be the primary cause for the effect that he is writing about.
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Re: Executives' Pensions Are the Deal of a Lifetime

Kweli4Real ·
In another thread, CF cited to spouse abuse in Africa and eluded to oppression in some Arab states. He then asked for the Capitalistic equivalent. Well, CF, here ya go:
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Re: State of the Union: NPR WANTS YOUR VIEW

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Speak for yourself. "Worse off before" what? In the past 5 years I have had 2 children, gotten a new job with a 5 figure raise, paid off the majority of my debt and gotten more spiritually focused. Maybe rather than looking to what the GOD-verment can distribute to you it is time to look for another more effective source for grace? The United States might be facing more challenges as other powers around the world rise up from the previos period of colonialism and players in the big battle...
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Re: State of the Union: NPR WANTS YOUR VIEW

Nmaginate ·
ALL of the places named are IRRELEVANT!! All the more reason for people with some sense not to "project" or make such asinine comparisons. The question is about the US State of ITS Union. The only comparisons are those INTERNAL (that's a term you claim to like) to the US. Why are you going OUTSIDE of the US in your "focus"?? STILL GOT YOUR WOLF TICKETS!! I got neighbors, relatives, etc. that have been hurt by this "decline." I could give a damn whether it's attributed to Bush or not. The...
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Re: State of the Union: NPR WANTS YOUR VIEW

HonestBrother ·
One measure of a mature intellect is the ability to look outside of one's particular personal circumstances before one makes a judgement of a general nature... Judging by MY personal circumstances, I am much better off as an individual than I was 5 years ago. But the question is not about the state of CF or the state of HB. The question is about the state of the Union. I have a friend who was somewhat of a ne'er do well. He worked in the food industry for a long time bartending or waiting...
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Re: Claude Steele Discusses How Group Stereotypes Can Influence Intellectual Performance

Faheem ·
This article only solidifies in my mind how far ahead of the curve Jawanza Kunjufu really is. He has stated everything in this article but stated it much better in more relevant terminology as well. I just got his latest book this week entitled, Hip Hop Street Curriculum , this book is like a work book, I have only glanced through it so far but this weekend I should get a chance to read it. Here is a summary of the book... Refuting the myths that black youth are unable to excel at academics...
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Re: Inner City Conservative Journal Espouses The Continuance of Historically Black Colleg

Kweli4Real ·
Although I believe that Black conservatives are engaged in wrong-headed thinking, I firmly agree that Black folk should go to Black research institutions, i.e., HBCU's, research, discuss, debate, formulate and ultimately develop solutions to Black problems. In this respect, I agree with CF [I think]. We shouldn't look to or entrust the white community for solutions to problems within the Black community. [However, I do believe in holding them responsible for enacting enabling legislation.]...
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Re: For the Sistas of AA.org

HonestBrother ·
I love Coretta Scott King who was forever beautiful, gracious, and just as visionary as her famous husband: Martin Luther King , who was studying for his doctorate in theology at Boston University, had told a mutual friend he was looking for a wife. The friend gave him Coretta Scott's phone number but when he came calling she was not impressed. "I saw this green car coming up the street and this short man," she said in an interview. "He leaned over to open the door, and when I got in the car...
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Re: Yes, women are still marrying for money (article)

qty226 ·
"Michael Broder, Ph.D., author of Can Your Relationship Be Saved? says that while the idea of women marrying for money isn't as common today as it was in the past, it still happens. "In the '50s and '60s they used to say 'It's just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as a poor man,'" says Broder. "Women now realise they don't need a man for wealth. Being empowered is the trend now." But, he adds that finances do play an important role in relationships - and have the potential to end a...
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Re: The One....

HonestBrother ·
What I want or am looking for ? .... To be understood. To be appreciated. To be accepted. That probably sounds very one sided (and maybe even a little self-indulgent). Of course, I think understanding, appreciation, and acceptance should be things I'm also able to give to "the one". But I put it like that because I really don't feel I've ever had that from a sista. Please no one get upset. That's not a general statement about all black women. It's just my experience which I hope will change...
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Re: The One....

Khalliqa ·
It's hard for me to believe that a brother with such great credentials is not snapped up already..... But may I add, hmmmm... not on the Beyonce bandwagon? I'm a lover of the intelligence of the human mind.... which the sister does not strike me as having in any significant quantity..... however I understand her allure....and it's not just her physical attributes.... it's her acceptance of her feminine attributes and the power and acceptance of those qualities that generate the magnetic...
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Re: Are You Black On The Inside?

ricardomath ·
Carlton Banks You are 50% Black!!! IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO BE LOVED BY YOU!! Tom Jones is pretty high up in your list huh? Hey, it's OK. Yes black people tease you and make fun of you, but it doesn't make you any less of a person. Just means you should stop shopping at JC Penny and Gap and go to the Korean Swap Market more often. I suggest you also refrain from singing all the words to Backstreat Boys songs near black people. It will freak them out a bit. However, there is hope for you. You must...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

toussaint ·
The situation was that a company decides to invest money in China. You can't just assume job turnover (let alone job loss) from that situation. Business invest in other countries all the time, and it doesn't equate to job loss or job turnover. If you had decided to insert your ignorance in the beginning of the debate rather than in the middle, you might've known that. If I buy noodles from China, that doesn't mean someone in the US loses their job. People in the US are just as well off as...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Isome ·
According to whom and how... and why is the wealth gap between the haves and have nots growing?
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Nmaginate ·
When you can raise intelligent questions and, more, make intelligent statements and, even still more, answer questions intelligently then you can talk. I'll ask you again: How can someone run the risk of being unemployed when NOTHING IS LOST?? Explain the "pain" and stop the Mickey Mouse, MEALY MOUTH BS! Why would actual economist (as opposed to a shade-tree ideologue) talk about present and short-term "PAIN" (while praying for long-term, off in the distance "gain") if there is/was NO NET...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Noah The African ·
The thing is that my position is not a philosophical one; it's simply an application of the physical laws of nature concerning matter and energy. Economics is subject to these laws because matter and energy is what makes economies work. I am a firm believer, based upon physical laws of nature, that there can never be a net gain...only shifts. You might have 20 dollars in one pocket and nothing in the other. If you move 20 dollars to the other pocket, you still only have 20 dollars, but one...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

toussaint ·
If free trade is so horrible, then why has Hong Kong, which has the most open economy in the world become richer than the nation that had colonized it(UK)? Maybe Noah should go tell them how they're being exploited. Why have tens of millions been lifted out of poverty in China since they opened up their economy and practice free trade in their special economic zones? Maybe Nmag should hurry up and tell them how free trade is just for white people. Why has the same happened for India? It is...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Noah The African ·
Toussaint, you seem to be a less intellectually worthy opponent than in the past, unless I am confusing you with someone else. First, do not put words in my mouth. I never made a pro or con argument in regards to free trade, my argument was against your denial of zero sums. The first thing that you need to note about Hong Kong is that it was a City-state, like Singapore. These small populations are easily turned around by direct foreign investment from large wealthy nations, pumping in...
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Re: Could You Handle Instant Wealth?

Frenchy ·
My Results: Buying then Selling You spent $1,140,000! You're stretching that dollar a bit far, because you'll likely need to take out a home equity loan to keep up with the maintenance costs of your stuff. Even then, you may have to sell some or quite possibly all the things you bought with your previous wealth to get out of debt. Damn!
 
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