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Re: Black Folks: It is Time to Lay Down the Mantle

EbonyRose ·
Okay, MBM, maybe we're getting somewhere! For my position, let me state unequivocally, that I am not in the least bit interested in assigning blame. I couldn't care less whose "fault" it is. And I do mean less . Assigning blame for this problem doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of a solution to it. So you point the finger at a bad guy ... and then what?? What I do care about, though, is that for every ancestor of which I am a descendant, whose same bloodline flows within me that were...
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Re: Black Folks: It is Time to Lay Down the Mantle

MBM ·
If you don't accurately identify the source of your problem, how can you reasonably expect to solve it? This is the crux of the problem. White Supremacy Inc. would have you focus your angst on Mexicans and away from those who get rich on exploiting both. Again, Mexicans have not set wages. Mexicans have not hired anyone. White Supremacy Inc. has. Without clarity on this point, whatever energy you have is misplaced. And that's the point. Fighting for our interests is what politics and...
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Re: Where should Reparations funds come from?

James Wesley Chester ·
The money should come from the United States General Fund, AND all such other sources as can be proven in court, or admits, to profitting from slavery and/or Jim Crow. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Black Nationalism 2006

James Wesley Chester ·
African American-Americans, notably David Walker and Mariah Stewart n the 1830's, and Martin B. Delaney in the 1860s, and Thomas Morris Chester in the 1880s seemed to drive the move to separatism in the 19th century. I'm sure there were others. Immigrants, and descendants of immigrants, transient and otherwise, are the notable players in the movement in the 20th century, e.g. Marcus Garvey, Elijah Muhammed, Stokely Carmichael, Malcolm (X) Little, Louis Farahkan, and most vocal supporters.
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Re: The geography of a Woman

FireFly ·
only if she has no 'essence' and sense of self poetry and expression. If she's till haunted by mistakes then she must be too dumb to learn 40+ can mean a whole new era of men who had lived lives, learnt and have lots to share there's no despair darling
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Re: The geography of a Woman

caribbeanflavored ·
i'm glad that generalization/joke doesn't apply to you.
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Re: III. Correcting The System of Unequal Justice

James Wesley Chester ·
I'm back. ] As a result of Section 4(a) of that law, We do not, and cannot, have control of our own vote, neither individually nor a people. The people who claim to be 'the leadership' for Americans of unknown African ancestry initiated a petition to continue the law as is...for us. In that petition they articulate the reason being that to do otherwise, i.e. petition for equal treatment, would cause Congress to challenge the constitutionality of such a request. This is a request for equal...
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Re: 9/11 - The Anniversary, The Legacy

Afroman ·
Inequality Before and After 9/11 by Paul Street I'll always remember the day I tried to engage in that silly exercise called "speaking truth to power." It was early December of 2001. My topic was American policymakers' decision to place nearly a million black people behind bars and to mark more than one in three black males with a felony record. As a member of a Chicago-based council of advisers working to help ex-offenders "reintegrate" into the "free world," I was invited to a pleasant...
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Re: 30th Anniversary of September 11 : Over 3000 dead

ricardomath ·
Sergeant, You may not consider it big news, but I assure that the 30th Aniversary of 9/11 is a big deal in Chile. Many of the perpetrators are indeed alive. Our government could help by allowing the extradiction of Henry Kissinger. Image that, instead of "only" killing 3000 people, Al-Queda had actually succeeded in overthrowing our government and established a military dictatorship in the US, lasting 17 years, resulting in the widespread killing, maiming, and torturing of Americans. Do you...
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Re: What to do?

Nykkii ·
and i am rotflmao....(not at your situation but at the quoted comment) red BLACK green
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Re: Welfare

Kevin41 ·
whatzgoingon posted, Answer me honestly. If white racism ended just like that, would most of the problems in our communities disappear just like that too? IMHO, what black people have been put through throughout our history damaged us a hell of a lot more psychologically than it did physically or even economically. Mental slavery is far worse than physical slavery. * Economics was the main staple of jim Crow that caused economic inequities that last to this day and was the basis of many of...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

RadioRaheem ·
I like him. As of right now, and barring any nasty, freaky past, he's the current 'front runner' for my vote. As a vet myself, I can fully respect the General and his resume. He has the most 'experience' of all the other candidates, esp. in this 'war of the month' era of US History. If he sends the troops somewhere, unlike CLinton and Bush Jr., he can fully understand what that would mean to the men and women going and the families that they leave behind.
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Re: The Good Wife

NSpirit ·
Isistah I did not mean to imply that black housewives never existed in america, nor did i intend to place you in the position of having to defend "stay at home" moms... the article was from 1955's Housekeeping Monthly. Aside from it being an amusing bit of nostalgia, it is clearly written with white women in mind, don't u think? Furthermore, it is the role (subservient to hubby), not the specific tasks i'm taking issue with. also, when i say "black women have always worked outside the home",...
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Re: The Good Wife

isistah ·
Re: The Good Wife
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Re: How Do You Know.... If A Person is RACIST?

Nmaginate ·
Watcher... Be for real. There are a lot of White people that see stuff on TV and expect that to be what Black folks are like. I've had untold number of Whites who told me I looked like Mike Tyson or some Black person in the Media, definitely suggesting that they have limited experience with Black people. So... in starting your search... look at the media then look at history and the perceptions that are formed from a distance. You need to do some reading. There are plenty of second hand...
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Re: How Do You Know.... If A Person is RACIST?

Nmaginate ·
That's the question I was answering directly with my last post. What are you now acting like you didn't say that? And your question there ask about "perceptions"... A person doesn't have to have direct personal contact with another person to form an impression - aka a perception. As to experiencing racism to know what it is... That's what I would like to ask most White people who will at once say there is no racism cause they don't see it but they damn sure will tell you what it is. Answer...
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Re: How Do You Know.... If A Person is RACIST?

ThaWatcher ·
@nmag If you want to get into Jim Crow and US slavery then post another thread....
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Re: How Do You Know.... If A Person is RACIST?

Nmaginate ·
You can do that... I was answering your question/opinion which you and I know you can't sustain. The question is about the "experience" based "reality" of race perceptions not about Slavery and Jim Crow per se and you know that. You're just a sad excuse for someone with an argument. Can't defend it so you come up with tactics to avoid the scrutiny of your ridiculous ideas.
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Re: How Do You Know.... If A Person is RACIST?

ThaWatcher ·
Nmag...I could post "the sky is blue" and you'd find some way to argue that point. If you want to debate Rush's statement (which I thought we were doing) then fine...Jim Crow can wait til another day...
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Re: How Do You Know.... If A Person is RACIST?

Nmaginate ·
Dude.. I started the thread!!!! What's the title!!!!???????? Spoken like a true Escape Artist! Ahh... What's the title/subject? [This message was edited by Nmaginate on October 02, 2003 at 01:37 PM.]
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Re: How Do You Know.... If A Person is RACIST?

Nmaginate ·
I answered that question one that you have promoted more than once here. I did so by saying the following... which, btw, goes very far into how we define racism of which most would say is based on non-experiential prejudice. Otherwise, we're talking oxymoron. Prejudice by definition has nothing to do with "personal experience"... Watcher... You seem to be retreating from your once firm premise: Why is that? At first you were certain that RACISM and views on race were products of "personal...
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Re: Something of a Revelation

Melesi ·
Soul_doctor, You did not ask "specific questions concerning a specific prophecy." You asked about poverty and suffering and the existence of evil. You asked why these things exist and why the Church has committed sins and errors "If Jesus is the Messiah?" My answer to you stated that the questions had nothing to do with the question of Jesus being the Messiah. They had everything to do with human free will. You didn't ask about "specific prophecies." You see why I have to ask you more than...
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Re: How many thought Willie Lynch was real?

Our Empowerment ·
Just thougt you might want the unabridged version, instead of just the reviews. > ... its time for Prosperity > > > [This message was edited by Our Empowerment on October 09, 2003 at 02:44 AM.]
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Re: Who celebrates Kwanzaa?

James Wesley Chester ·
You are who you say you are. Your children are who you say you are.
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Re: Should felons be allowed to vote?

ItAintEazy ·
The felon disenfranchisement laws are all old Jim Crow laws. They should have been abolished a long time ago.
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Re: Good News From Colombia (for once!)

ricardomath ·
New Bogota Mayor Says He'll Work for Poor Mon Oct 27, 6:16 PM ET By ANDREW SELSKY, Associated Press Writer BOGOTA, Colombia - Mayor-elect Luis Eduardo Garzon pledged Monday to work for Bogota's poor after becoming the first leftist to win the top office in Colombia's capital "” a victory that represented a political setback for the violent campaign of Marxist guerrillas. Garzon, the former head of Colombia's biggest labor federation and an ex-communist, declared after his win Sunday that...
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Re: Good News From Colombia (for once!)

ricardomath ·
Sorry about the spanish, but I wanted to include something about the new mayor of Cali, and I couldn't find anyhing in english. Apolinar Salcedo, el nuevo alcalde de los caleños La luz de la razón ilumina a Polo hay una palabra que pueda resumir la vida de Apolinar Salcedo Caicedo, el nuevo alcalde de los caleños, es superación. Este hombre de 48 años, que ayer alcanzó el primer cargo de la tercera ciudad del país, se ha destacado a lo largo de su vida por superar cuanto obstáculo se...
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Re: Black Women vs. White women:SHOSHANNA JOHNSON VS. JESSICA LYNCH!

Prophetessofrage ·
A Long History of Affirmative Action - For Whites Many middle-class white people, especially those of us from the suburbs, like to think that we got to where we are today by virtue of our merit - hard work, intelligence, pluck, and maybe a little luck. And while we may be sympathetic to the plight of others, we close down when we hear the words "affirmative action" or "racial preferences." We worked hard, we made it on our own, the thinking goes, why don't 'they'? After all, the Civil Rights...
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Re: Black Women vs. White women:SHOSHANNA JOHNSON VS. JESSICA LYNCH!

Prophetessofrage ·
Throughout western history, have white women been the primary agents of oppression? by Bill McDonald Copyright © 1993 by Bill McDonald -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- About 1960 a favorite joke went something like this: "My wife and I have a clear understanding. I make all the important decisions. I decide what the family position is on the recognition of Red China, how many wings of B-52s the Air Force needs, and what to do about the federal...
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Re: third eye?

Melesi ·
Faheem, Sometimes it depends on what we're looking for, because we only see what we already recognize. How we already classify animals and plants determines in large part how we think about them. This goes for the transitional forms, too. Now, there are two errors we can commit about the fossil record, and they are that 1. the fossil record is so well known and complete that we know all the details of its history, and 2. the fossil is so fragmentary as to be of no use. Neither is true.
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Re: Are We Going To Be A Nation Of Dr. Frankensteins?

Melesi ·
MBM, 1. You're being glib. You criticize without showing how what you criticize is wrong. To call something "on the far side of extreme," is not to say that it is wrong except by insinuation, and then only by numbers. What determines if something is "extreme" except the numbers of people who do not do it? But something not done very often cannot be right? By that logic, Jim Crow laws were right once upon a time, because to do otherwise was "extreme." 2. Why should a "child" not be someone...
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Re: Are We Going To Be A Nation Of Dr. Frankensteins?

MBM ·
Glib? Your response personifies the definition of the word. You ascribe elements to my post that do not exist in my words. Further, you do precisely what you accuse me of in your own post. Too funny! If I didn't say it was "wrong" why inject that into the discussion? I said it was "extreme". I stand firm on that characterization. Where have you articulated why your definition of "children" is "right"? Is it not "glib" to introduce the word "children" into a conversation about cloning? Where...
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Re: Are We Going To Be A Nation Of Dr. Frankensteins?

Melesi ·
MBM, I was under the impression that I had responded "to what was presented" to me. What you said was that I was wrong in some way, but you didn't say why you said so. Since it seemed that you were answering quickly instead of thoughtfully, I made the reasonable conclusion that you were being "glib." I did not ascribe to your post what wasn't there, I explained why I said what I did. Moreover I gave reasons for the things I said. As a result, I was not glib. Your response was defensiveness,...
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Re: Exploring The "MODEL MINORITY" Myth

Kevin41 ·
Sunnubian, I am so glad my parents did not seem to carry mental baggage and residue from the jim crow era down to us. there has to be a psychological aspect left over that make some of us gravitate towards out historical oppresors the way we do......it damn sure is not logical in nature.. Like the ones who come in here and defend everything whites do.....too bad white policemen don't beat their mamas down....but that probably wouldn't make a difference either....they would say she deserved it.
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Re: White so-called 'Christianity' is responsible for unleashing demonism

Prophetessofrage ·
Christianity and Racism Rusty Wright -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does Christianity Promote Racism? Thirty years after the heyday of the Civil Rights movement, racial issues in the US remain sensitive. Racial quotas in the workplace and academia continue to be controversial. Prominent corporations are accused of racist practices. Certain supremacy groups promote the Bible, God and the white race. Race and politics interact in ways that...
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Re: White so-called 'Christianity' is responsible for unleashing demonism

Prophetessofrage ·
I. The development of slavery and racism: A. Driven by the desire for cheap labor and economic gain B. The British Colonies in the 1600s 1. In the 1660s, England, under Charles II, decided that the country was no longer overpopulated and that it would be unwise to continue to let the work force leave. 2. The first Navigation Act was passed in the early 1650s leading to lower tobacco prices. 3. In 1662, British government granted monopoly to Royal African Slave Company initiating a policy to...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Nmaginate ·
HUH? SEPARATE but equal?? HUH?? Is this some more of your [biased] "popular" conception stuff? That's what I'm asking you? The common or popular conception of people on the same team is not to ask who is more effective per se as if they are in competition. In any sport (where has your football analogy went?) TEAMMATES are not assessed by that measure in terms of one being chosen over the other. They are acknowledge and equally accepted for their roles, however different they may be. HaHaHa!
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

MBM ·
BULLSHIT. In sports, achievement is sliced and diced in multiplicative fashion with every aspect of performance charted, tracked, and monitored. Please. Perhaps I've slipped into Russian in this thread. I apologize. That probably accounts for the dissonance between us. About 30 times I have said that I am not choosing anything. You yourself have acknowledged a difference in perception between the two men. Shit, they are two separate people. How could they be perceived in exactly equal ways?
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Solomonic ·
The self-defense argument presupposes the rednecks coming to lynch you in the middle of the night. But, it was not about trying to reason with some gun-toting peckerwood on a deserted road ˜round midnight. MLK's movement was a carefully orchestrated, strategically planned, endeavor executed using non-violence as a tactic and the media as to broadcast this dramatizing of the inhumane treatment blacks were subjected to. Sit-ins and boycotts were planned at times when they would inflict the...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Nmaginate ·
What are you talking about? When you dispense with your ridiculous notions - i.e. presumptuous aSSinine, aSSumptive BULLSHIT! - about "taking up arms" then talk to me... It also clear you're in need of a history lesson. Both to disavow you of the white-washed notions you have about Malcolm X and the whole idea of "what would have happened"... No need for a hypothetical. RESEARCH the *DEACONS FOR DEFENSE and JUSTICE* , they "took up arms" right smack dab in the middle of the South... When you...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

MBM ·
Well, IMO, passive resistance requires at least as much discipline. To resist retaliation because of commitment to a strategy, when every impulse pushes you to respond, IMO, is probably about the hardest and most disciplined thing that a person can do. IMO, to look at the behavior without understanding the motivation, principles, and commitment underneath it is to only look at half of the picture. No, "doing for self" has a much broader definition than what appears to be used here. I...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Solomonic ·
It is clear that you need a reality check. You assume that I am unaware of the Deacons For Defense and you are dead wrong. The Deacons stole their munitions from the docks of New Orleans to face off a handful of small town peckerwoods. What kind of nationwide strategy was that for black folk? Steal some grenades and automatic weapons to face down the people who made the very weapons your arsenal is comprised of. What happens when the Governor orders the National Guard in? Whites were known...
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Re: Black MALE self-HATRED...WAKE UP!!!!!

GinaMarni ·
It is time black women started dating out. Out as in interracially out. Out as in dating white, Latino, Asian and Native American men out. Here are a few reasons why I think dating interracially isn't only an option, it's a necessity: Kobe Bryant, Tiger "Cablanasian" Woods, Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, Jason Williams, Scottie Pippen, Cuba Gooding, Quincy Jones (each of the four times he was married), Clarence Thomas (thank goodness), Taye Diggs. All are married to or dating white women. We...
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Re: Black Coalition Announces Gay Marriage Support

ricardomath ·
NS, I would dare say that my position on many issues is not representative of the majority opinion in this country, whether black or otherwise. I support the human rights of all people, including gays. In addition, within my lifetime my own marriage would have been illegal in many states, were it not for the Lovings v Virginia decision of the Supremes in 1967. This decision was a happy (for me, anyway!) side-effect of the civil rights movement. Having gained my own right, as a straight white...
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Re: BLACK WARRIORS, KINGS AND GODS

Nmaginate ·
The following info. presents a challenge to some of your assumptions. History The Encyclopedia of World History III. The Postclassical Period: [African] Historical Trends, 1000–1500 Roughly contemporary with the spread of the Bantu speakers, from the middle of the first millennium B.C.E. to the middle of the first millennium of the current era, West Africans along the sahel and savanna developed an urban tradition. This urban tradition seems to have its roots in the fortified villages found...
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Re: Negroes Out Of Touch With America On War

Kevin41 ·
For turning your backs on the people who delivered your mamas and daddies from the colored sections of jim crow.....THEY (mama and daddy) should call you all names that would make negro sound like a great compliment.....you are the scourge of the black race....the sub-human creature that crawls on its belly at the beckon of racist whites.....quit whining and acting like little girls...what I say does not take food from your table....so SHUT UP AND QUIT BITCHING.....
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Re: Negroes Out Of Touch With America On War

Lofton (Guest) ·
"For turning your backs on the people who delivered your mamas and daddies from the colored sections of jim crow.....THEY (mama and daddy) should call you all names that would make negro sound like a great compliment.....you are the scourge of the black race....the sub-human creature that crawls on its belly at the beckon of racist whites.....quit whining and acting like little girls...what I say does not take food from your table....so SHUT UP AND QUIT BITCHING....." by Kevin41 ....I only...
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Re: Revisiting Rwanda and the death of 800,000 Tutsi's

Faheem ·
Part four.. As Habyarimana continued to negotiate with the opposition under international pressure to reach a settlement, his plane (a gift from President Mitterrand of France) was show down, killing him and everyone on board. Within an hour of Habyarimana's death, roadblocks were put up throughout Kigali as militia and death squads preceded to kill moderate Hutus, including the prime minister, whose names were on prepared lists. Then the death squads went after every Tutsi they could find,...
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Re: It Doesn't Look Like We've Lost Jobs, in fact a gain of 2.6 million MORE jobs under Bush!

Kevin41 ·
Look at the kind of jobs sgt, if you think that is true.....we are back to the time where MBA's are applying for secretary jobs and many who have expensive azz educations are waiters and schit like dat....well, they voted for W because they thought the Clinton-era boom was coincidence.....I think they wanted to go to prosperity without sharing it with blacks....the GOP makes whites feel as if they are "taking their country back"...but even though they are anti-black in terms of policy, they...
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Re: Affirmative Action primarily benefit White Women!!! Not minorities!!

Kevin41 ·
Like I said Les, Racial dialogue is fruitless....if you and the rest of whites in amerikkka do not understand that the financial gains whites SOLEY gained from slavery all disappeared and all of the farms, businesses and money were burned after the civil war so we couls all start even steven, then I am really wasting my time (which I figured out long ago) talking to you or anyone else. There was many a black born poor as hell when whites were born into wealth garnered off of the backs of...
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