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Re: Conservative Idiots

Kevin41 ·
I wonder why there is sooo much laughter when the guy speaks.....I guess it is hard to take a tom serious....when you know their first and foremost motive is to defend the stats quo and their white masters....I thought the term conservative idiot applied here......... My dad's barbershop ...byLarry Elder and personal responsibility -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: December 29, 2005 1:00 a.m. Eastern Editor's note: The following column...
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Re: Larry Elder: blacks and republicans

Nmaginate ·
Elder is high, drunk, pimp-slapped, etc. because of the disconnect. He knows the rule. Politics is all about "What Have You Done For Me Lately." What the hell is he talking about the history? Like there is a BETTER WHITE MAN or something? Silly BASTARD!! Last time, at The Barbershop , this mf was thumbing his nose at history:Funny how he showed right awful disdain for history there and never even came close to casting that history in a positive light, let alone putting a hellified spin on...
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Vox ·
Maybe not "have a sense of humor," but I would say that the violence is pretty outrageous. To me, if it's wrong to depict Muhammad as a violent terrorist, then it's even more wrong to carry out violence and terror in the name of defending Muhammad's honor. That's like you falling on somebody after they've made fun of you for being clumsy.
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Nmaginate ·
BUT you did not answer me question and "I stand by my view" that the Christ and Christian images are not comparably "sacred" in Christendom. Symbols of Christ, no matter what the lay or particular Christians feel about them [read: Christians angry enough over 'The Last Tempation of Christ' to call in bomb threats] , just aren't as sacred. It just doesn't translate. It's not the same language or the same word. There's a deeper, different meaning because of the very different tradition in...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

HonestBrother ·
I will not answer your post in detail since it puts a lot of words into my mouth. I do not object to service. I do not object to protecting my woman or myself. I do object to giving lip service or intellectual assent to a number of religious doctrines which have nothing directly to do with service, protection, or unity. For example, 12. WE BELIEVE that Allah (God) appeared in the Person of Master W. Fard Muhammad, July, 1930; the long-awaited "Messiah" of the Christians and the "Mahdi" of...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Kai ·
You must object to the above since you reject "control". Is there a way to protect and serve outside of control? Is there? I am a Fruit Of Islam serving in the Nation Of Islam. I cannot speak for other faiths, but I am certain that the NOI's doctrine is premised upon service, protection, and unity, among other things. What does Master Fard Muhammad have to do with this? I agree. Fortunately, the NOI makes no such claims. Kai
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

HonestBrother ·
Yes. NOI may be premised on service, protection, and unity AMONG OTHER IDEAS. Are you going to tell me that NO other ideas are involved? And as for Fard Muhammad: Can't you friggin read??? . One of the ideas in addition to service, protection, and unity is that this man is God. And that's from the official NOI website.
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Kai ·
Baby steps....Definitely baby steps... Okay c'mon... Your gripe was not against ideology, it was against "systems of control". Your statements indicated a broad indictment of all institutions which exercises control over it's members. You specifically indicated in your argument that we should be self governed. I have raised the issue of unity to counter some of what you asserted. Do not get me wrong, I am for self governance in most instances, however, I am also a man who understands the...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

HonestBrother ·
You are full of hot air ... and seem to be deliberately misconstruing my posts. You asked me what I had against unity, protection, and service. My response was nothing. But what I objected to were the other unrelated doctrines which have not a damned thing to do with unity, protection, or service. But which nevertheless demand assent from members of the organization and whose ONLY function is intellectual control... You asked what I had against unity, protection, and service and my response...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Kai ·
Peace... Perhaps you feel blown away...I understand. No..I will allow you all of the credit for that one. Your points are incoherent and loosely tied. Have you ever been a member of these "Loopy" organizations? If not, are you really qualified to make such a judgment? Now let us be clear here...You were not limiting your comments to any particular organization, you were intentionally rejecting, any, and all organizations which seek to exercise any control over it's members. Which is why you...
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Re: Albinism: The "Bleached" Uncolor {Revisee}

Kai ·
Peace.... Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin By Rick WeissWashington Post Staff Writer Friday, December 16, 2005; Page A01 Scientists said yesterday that they have discovered a tiny genetic mutation that largely explains the first appearance of white skin in humans tens of thousands of years ago, a finding that helps solve one of biology's most enduring mysteries and illuminates one of humanity's greatest sources of strife. The work suggests that the skin-whitening...
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Re: Nationalism VS Assimilation

HonestBrother ·
In theory, I completely agree with everything you just said... but my problem comes with the way the typical Nationalist usually carries this out... You can always see it coming when they start shouting down the "intellectuals" and those who accept "European definitions". They've only read a few books - Malcolm X, Elijah Muhammad, or Cheikh Anta Diop maybe - and then conveniently forget that Anta Diop was educated in European institutions and used European originated ideas and methodologies...
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Re: Nation of Islam-KKK Konnection: fact or fiction?

Nmaginate ·
http://www.plp.org/ TheCommunist1 /noi.html ...Marable continued, "The NOI's relationship with the White Right was first revealed by Malcolm X, soon after his departure from the organization. At the height of the Civil Rights Movement across the South, many white racists and ultraconservatives came to the conclusion that the racially separatist views of Elijah Muhammad were clearly preferable to the integrationism of Martin Luther King, Jr. The NOI's key go-between with the white...
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Re: Black Republicans

Kevin41 ·
Lofton, and while your racist white azz rants on about Kobe....here's the difference between a black man accused and a white man convicted....but based on your PW background, you could never be cognizant enough to quit ragging on blacks and their communities to see that there is a distinct racist percpetion difference in amerikkka....so while you wish for Kobe's decline....look what happens on the other side....I want to see you assert yourself from now on across the board the same for all...
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Re: Christian ORIGIN of RACISM!

Nmaginate ·
There are NO images (pictures) of GOD in Islam let alone "graven images" and very few if any of Muhammad for that matter but you do find a lot of that in Christianity. Making a blanket statement that ALL other concepts of GOD is IDOL WORSHIP when compared to Christianity's concept of GOD is the idiocy that fuels RACISM! To think that every people on the planet earth would express their ideas about who and what GOD is and our relation to him (SIN or otherwise) in the same, UNIFORM way is like...
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Re: Christian ORIGIN of RACISM!

shebakoby ·
Actually you find a lot of it in Roman Catholicism. Protestantism does not use "images" as worship-aids. F***, Islam is so extreme about images that a person can't paint a picture of a f***ing pussy cat for fear of it being worshipped. Hold on now, pal, EXACTLY HOW does it do THAT?! Especially since even among WHITE people there are various and diverse opinions on what constitutes the correct or "best" for the person concept of God/god?! If one white person tells another white person that...
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Re: I love the men of the Nation of Islam

Prophetessofrage ·
Persecution follows Revelation By Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan [Editor's note: The following text is excerpted from a March 25, 2001 speech delivered by Minister Louis Farrakhan at Mosque Maryam in Chicago, Illinois.] In The Name of Allah, The Beneficent, The Merciful. In order to be successful in establishing truth, we have to be imbued with the spirit of Allah (God). Otherwise, the persecution that follows revelation will prove to be too much and we will give up the truth to seek...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Faheem ·
MBM, you are correct in pointing out that what I said is what the conservatives say, but you should also be mindful that I am no fool and I can understand the duality of all problems. I personally disagree with Negro Conservatives not because they are wrong but because they give a free pass to white folk and see Black men and women as the creators of our own problems and do not see the shared responsibility in correcting the problems that we face. We have both external and internal ills,...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

MBM ·
Well, IMO, passive resistance requires at least as much discipline. To resist retaliation because of commitment to a strategy, when every impulse pushes you to respond, IMO, is probably about the hardest and most disciplined thing that a person can do. IMO, to look at the behavior without understanding the motivation, principles, and commitment underneath it is to only look at half of the picture. No, "doing for self" has a much broader definition than what appears to be used here. I...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Faheem ·
I am aware that to sit in a restaurant and allow someone to beat, you, spit on you and spray you with water hoses require some discipline but how does such discipline become self discipline, something we are in more need of today than ever in our history. How did allowing ourselves to be brutalized in hopes of appealing to the morality of the most immoral people on the earth give us any discipline. Yes, it eventually convinced them that treating us like that was wrong but it also said to...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Faheem ·
MBM I am well aware that Malcolm was assassinated, hence your argument that Malcolm was in the safety of the north has been contradicted by your own writing. I could have easily pointed out that both men were assassinated when you were pontificating about Malcolm being in the safety of the north. I have the simplest of questions, if we take both men speeches any number of them, which of these two great men speeches would be most relevant today! Any intellectually honest person would have to...
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Re: Should Malvo Get The Death Penalty?

MBM ·
For those that believe he should be executed, how does the fact that he was a minor when the crimes were committed impact your thinking? Further, do you believe that he was influenced to commit these crimes by Muhammad? Does that relationship, and the influence that John had on Lee, at all mitigate your feelings about punishment for Malvo? There is no passion to be found playing small, in settling for a life that is less than the one you are capable of living. - Mandela
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Re: Should Malvo Get The Death Penalty?

ocatchings ·
His age doesn't have an impact on my thinking at all, these thugs want to act as adults give them all that comes with it as well. As far as his relationship, there are too many positive people and factors out and about so that crap that he was influenced doesn't set with me. He made the decision so he should reap the consequences. The only thing I regret for him and all the others that are convicted (or not) is that they will tie up the system; I say 30 days and pull the switch. Before I am...
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Re: Should Malvo Get The Death Penalty?

mocove ·
wtf! this dumbarzzes knew exactly what they were doing. how 'bout some justice for the young afro-american scholar-athlete sitting in prison in georgia on some trumped-up statutory rape charge that was maliciously needled by a racist proscecutor. the kid merely had consentual sex with a 16 yr old (white girl) a few weeks after his 18th birthday. the felt compelled to lie because of what her racist father and community (forsyth county, georgia) might have done if they had discovered she slept...
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Re: Introduction to Voodoo in Haiti

Vox ·
First of all, one answer to your question, why bother with religion at all, I answered in my last post. I said, the value of religion is its spiritual dimension. Many people find adherence to organized religious strictures to be uplifting, uniting, disciplining, and enlightening. To those who choose to adhere to it, that's the benefit. Second of all, as to your atheism question, the opposite of adhering to religion is not atheism. The opposite of belief in God is atheism. The opposite of...
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Re: Introduction to Voodoo in Haiti

shebakoby ·
It can do a lot of other things too that are not so benign... I'm talking about ATHEISM, not the Common American Religous Creed of "I can worship God in the woods" type deal or rejection of "organized" religion. Although, atheism IS a 'religion.' DUDE. The problem is NOBODY can scientifically study ANY OF THAT $#**!!!!!! F***ING NOBODY!!!!! I have to go with God's word for it cuz that's all we got aside from demonic revelations. I'd rather trust God on this than a pack of hostile spirit...
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Re: Origin of the bible

Prophetessofrage ·
Hi Sun Nubian, just stopped by to post a article and boy was I surprised at how you all flushed out that white deceiver and showed it up for what it is. This is hiliarious. You all worked this white maggot till it forgot to hide it's obvious white racist deceiver nature. 'They're not black, they're not black' screeches this effeminate he/bitch which has no trace of masculinity to it's lying, deceiving, CAUGHT BIG-TIME CARCASS. Whoa! Glad I came back for a visit......a white maggot deceiver...
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Re: a screwed-up interpretation of the african diaspora

Afroman ·
I don't mind when white people say stupid shit about Africa, but when it's black people doing it saddens a lot. Rayne, don't make the list of the black people who are ignorant about their ancestors! For your information, everywhere around the world there have been and there still are group who sold their own people, Africa is no exception. The slavery that existed in Africa was not frequent as in other parts of the world. During pre-colonial times, the slavery that existed in Africa then was...
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Re: John Muhammad Sentenced To Death

Netris Zuri-Moja ·
I think Muhammad deserves exactly what's coming...but the influence he had on Malvo should have given that poor boy the chance for parole.
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Re: Why Should We Just "Get Over It"?

MBM ·
The Case Against Reparations Sometimes a bad idea is so pregnant with mischief that it compels our attention. One such idea is now propelling a movement to secure reparations for American slavery. The seeming simplicity of this plea is truly seductive. In skeletal form the argument looks like this: Once upon a time some white people enslaved some black people; the institution of American slavery robbed "the black community" of its inheritance; the long years of servitude produced enduring...
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Re: United Nation of Islam (U.N.O.I.)

Faheem ·
Believing that everything can be proven mathematically is not unique to the UNOI, this belief is based in science. I am sure when they conclude that everything can be proven mathematically they are not talking ones and zero's. The UNOI while separate from the NOI still believe that Elijah Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; however they believe that Allah has reappeared in the person of Solomon, their leader. One of the things that Elijah Muhammad taught is that "Islam is Mathematics and...
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Re: What "Celebrities" Have You Met?

Khalliqa ·
Peace and Blessings, O.K. Fine. I need to socialize more. Because I literally can think of almost no one except those I went to school with and I don't feel those count because it was a matter of happenstance. I am also somewhat embarrassed that our paths crossed. But, because I'm really gullible on this one....here goes: Rozonda Thomas (Chili)of the group TLC- We sometimes socialized in high school. PDiddy- Met him at a party in college once...not impressed. Benjamin E. Mays- I met him...
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Re: United Nation of Islam (U.N.O.I.)

Whirling Moat ·
Peace.... Greetings to all. I am Whirling Moat, a Fruit of Islam in the Nation Of Islam, under the direction of The Honorable Louis Farrakhan Muhammad, the appointed National Representative of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad. The UNOI members are my brothers and sisters, and I respect whatever good they are able to accomplish, however, I do not wish for anyone to become confused and think that these brothers and sisters represent the NOI as it is properly established in the West. The Honorable...
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Re: United Nation of Islam (U.N.O.I.)

HeruStar ·
Slight correction. Maat is the deity that sets the standard for how one's actions is measured against Truth. She also sets the standards for the other deities. The greeks Athena is a generic replica of Maat because Maat is law and justice. When merged with her perfect compliment Tehuti(wisdom) she represents Universal Order. <--The eye which you see here is sometimes referred to as the eye or Ra or the Daughter of Ra which is Maat. Although I use it to represent the eye of Heru. I know...
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Re: United Nation of Islam (U.N.O.I.)

Whirling Moat ·
Peace.... "Sorry I forgot to mention one of Maat's most important attributes.... Balance"-Heru Star _________________________________________ Balance is one of the primary attributes Of Maat. Balance and peace are the same condition if one understands properly. This is why I said at the "Root" Maat means Peace. I have never implied that Muhammad worshipped a feminine deity...It is a mistake to look at the Neteru as individual Gods. The Ntrw represent aspect of a single power which expresses...
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Re: United Nation of Islam (U.N.O.I.)

HeruStar ·
I did not call her a god. I called her a deity. A person claiming to be in submission to Maat is claiming that they have fulfilled the sixth stage of initiation. They are proclaiming that they are Maa Kheru (true of voice), thus able to be trusted with the use of spiritual powers. They are also claiming to think cosmogonically, sychronistically, and holistically. Thus putting them in oracle status. I saw the movie Malcolm X, and the honorable Elijah Muhammad doesn't seem like an oracle that...
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Re: United Nation of Islam (U.N.O.I.)

Whirling Moat ·
Peace.... "I saw the movie Malcolm X, and the honorable Elijah Muhammad doesn't seem like an oracle that can be trusted"-Heru Star ______________________________________________ Heru Star, I am sure that you realize that you will never get a proper perspective of a man by watching a film about him produced in Hollywood. There are many who judge The Honorable Elijah Muhammad as being in error. I ask these judges for the codified law by which His actions are being judged. Many of us consider...
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Re: What Celebs Would You Like To Meet? (Dead or Alive)

kresge ·
Quick List - Toni Morrison Angela Bassett Sade Nelson Mandela Dalai Lama Desmund Tutu Muhammad Ali Jimmy Carter Wole Soyinka Sidney Poitier
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Re: What Celebs Would You Like To Meet? (Dead or Alive)

Khalliqa ·
This is just what I can think of now: 1. Definitely my great grandmother... 2. Nzingha 3. Menes 4. Jill Scott 5. India.arie 6. Min. Farrakhan 7. Min. Ava 8. Cheikh Anta Diop and Chancellor Williams 9. Oprah...*sigh* yes Oprah 10. Taharkha 11. Denmark Vessey 12.W.E.B. DuBois and Booker T. Washington 13. My great grandfather 14. Benjamin Mays-now that I'm an adult 15. Ben Carson 16. Miles Davis 17. Denzel Washington 18. Angela Bassett 19. James Earl Jones 20. Will Downing 21. Thurgood Marshall...
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Re: What influence would Malcolm X have had on world affairs had he lived?

kresge ·
As suggested by JWC, I do not think that it would have been possible for Malcolm to have lived much longer. I differ, however, as to whether the major threat was from the NOI and Elijah Muhammad or from the federal government. If he had lived, I think that a number of interesting things would have happened. As suggested by James Hal Cone in his book Malcolm and Martin , there seems to have been a convergence in the thinking of the two men. I believe that they would have come together, and if...
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Re: Wachovia Acknowledges Ties to Slavery

MBM ·
This is a conservative spin on this story. Wachovia Apology Renews Reparations Debate (CNSNews.com) - The apology by the Wachovia financial holding company, for its long-ago connections to the U.S. slave trade, will likely produce dramatic financial consequences for the banking corporation and others in the industry, according to conservative critics of slave reparations. A Chicago ordinance required Wachovia to look through its history for any relationship to slavery. Because the bank was...
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Re: Music With A Message

AudioGuy ·
Fertile Ground... Common... Talib Kweli... Alicia Keys... Ali Shaheed Muhammad (formerly of Tribe Called Quest)
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Re: Anti-Gay Arson Terrorist Attack on UCC Church

ricardomath ·
Shemika, I was browsing the website of your precious Traditional Values Coalition, where I learned about a dangerous Fifth Column in US society, and even the military.
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Re: Are we in Phoenix?

Kai ·
Peace.... Praise be to Allah brother, I am a member of The NOI in Detroit, I am also with the Minister. And yes, bruh, I play chess...You Push??? Brother, you will see me and another speaking the language in this cipher, do not be dismayed, remember what the lessons say in regards to speaking the language..and our requirement to speak well...A word to the wise... Much Success to you... Your brother, L.K. Muhammad aka Kai
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Re: Are we in Phoenix?

ExtremeFOI ·
Yea brother i use to play in tournaments as a teen. Do you know of Stephen Muhammad he is a believer and a 2400 rated International Master www.thechessdrum.net
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Re: Black Power's Quiet Side

Oshun Auset ·
I guess COINTELPRO had nothing to do with it. So the urban violence wasn't Europeans kicking civil rights workers ass then I guess. It's the nationalist movements fault. Give me a break. Yah, like he went from SNCC to the Black Panthers to Pan Africanism the A-APRP(All African People's Revolutionary Party), moved to Africa(Guinea Conakry) and organized there....and that his name was changed to Kwame Toure. It would be respectful to call him by the name he chose for himself. I don't recall...
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Re: A Modern Day Moses and Aaron?

1milehi ·
well, if the root & essence of all scripture is from the original people and was only co-opted, distorted and tampered with by people of other cultures, then what? apparently the tampering was done so that masses of people would be thrown off track about who the real people of god are, where they would be at a certain time, what they would look like, etc. the experiment seems to have worked - wouldn't you say? we can start now. what are some of our myths that need to be dealt with?
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Re: A Modern Day Moses and Aaron?

1milehi ·
Posted 06-21-06
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Re: A Modern Day Moses and Aaron?

Oshun Auset ·
The entire worldview that African religion gives has been distorted, not just 'who' started everything. Check the thread 'THE HERITAGE OF THE GODDESS' formore details, and some of my other posts. I do ALL THE TIME...on other threads. I've posted numerous threads on this subject so it was uneccesary to do that on this one. Not when people don't respond to it. Used to be member of the NOI when I was in my late teens/early twenties. I've debated(and still do when I visit) with the Black...
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Re: A Modern Day Moses and Aaron?

1milehi ·
that's funny. how can you see the point when it was made because of a misunderstanding of what THEM stands for? and then it is completely inaccurate to say that "In the above thread, there are several references [by members of the NOI]...." excuse me, but there was only ONE member of the nation who was interviewed and who gave his comments. where does this "several references" by NOI members (plural) come from? what "point" do you see in all that honest brother? seriously. and kweli, THEM in...
 
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