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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
how old is your friend? If she is over 30, then it sounds like she is taking the best deal on the table. I'm from the MD area, educated in DC[Georgetown U], returned to DC after grad school and have found that black women are the least approachable women of the all. Many DC black men agree with me on this. That's why there are so many mixed couples in the surrounding areas, i.e. Northern VA, PG County, Gaitherburg MD, Bethesda MD, and Silver Spring MD...have you ever been to Georgetown??
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Is this funny? Get it right. It is the SAMBOs who are advancing the "Stop Snitching" policy upon poor communities. The Black Quasi-Socialist Fundamentalist are the one's who DON'T WANT THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO CHANGE but who figure that when the Country/White Community changes the Black community will benefit in large measure because our #1 adversary has agreed to play nice.
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Of course I expect MBM to follow up with a reply to the effect that "I am right" that Black people are savages or thugs or something foolish such as this. To the people of Washington DC who have defended Marion Barry, seeing him as a victim of a conspiracy by Whites who don't want him in power, working on behalf of the poor in DC this must be tantamount to Rosa Parks getting robbed in her home despite asking the thug "Do you know who I am" and he not caring . Things are NOT going to change...
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Noah The African ·
So...will things change as a result of your strategy....which is: 1) Blame everything on black liberals 2) Ignore incidents of police brutality and racism against blacks 3) Lobbying to increase the number of blacks who don't vote democratic. 4) Ignoring that the present is the summation and creation of the past. 5) being an UNCLE TOM or a white man pretending to be black how does that strategy HELP?
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
And YOU seem to know the talking points of the WHITE SOCIALIST rather well. You see MBM - you have an open ended heart. You and other fundamentalist believe that you have MORAL SUPERIORITY because you stand for PROVIDING MAXIMUM BENEFIT FOR THE MASSES. How touching. You fail miserably when it comes to the concept of EXPECTING SOMETHEM FROM THE POOR. My wife and I COULD have a 3rd, 4th or even 8th baby. We know that by doing so it would impact us financially, time-wise, housing-wise and...
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

MBM ·
Based upon the onus you place on their backs, why do you call them "victims"? Please explain. A woman has been repeatedly abused by her husband over the years. She walks into the police station, finally, seeking protection and relief. CF looks at her and says, "What are you prepared to do to change to help your situation?" First of all - she has taken the first step and is at the damned police station. Second of all, that she has survived as long as she has is a testament to her personal...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

Sandye ·
Radio - you aren't being fair! Felix, it DOES apply to women as well. Everyone is accountable for their own actions and to a certain degree we are responsible for our own destiny as well. Women are not all looking to blame others for our poor choices. Generalizations can be dangerous ...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

Rowe ·
So if a lot Black women are having similiar dating experiences, what are we to conclude? Is poor dating experiences something that is unique to Black women? Are Black women just "bad daters?"
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
I would conclude that many young black women make very poor dating choices early in their dating lives. It seems, like Dr Audrey Chapman*******[link below with highlighted quote] has concluded, that many black women are looking to be a savior in their quest to attempt to try to change a bad boy into a good man..as oppose to starting out with a good man and building from there. She [Dr. Chapman]feels that black women would like to feel that their love can change people...only later to...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

Rowe ·
Why do you think no other women are experiencing these problems, at least to this extent? Why do Black women seem to be the only group making "very poor dating choices?"
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Re: Should Black People...

Frenchy ·
Yes, Black people should put white people's fears at ease. Instead of letting the poor white man suffer through an entire train ride, watching you and clutching his bag, just rob him blind as soon as you get on the train so you both can relax. Etc. None of us are easily separated from our misconceptions and stereotypes. If I spot a white man wearing dark clothing and a shaved head with tattoos on his body... he's a skinhead. If he doesn't attack me, he is a skinhead in a particularly...
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Re: Should Black People...

HonestBrother ·
Re: Should Black People...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

detroit1 ·
Yeah but some women are looking to draw sympathy from others for having to ordeal such a "horrible relationship". I don't buy it. The worst that a woman makes her ex out to sound, the worst it makes her look for staying with that person. And some women say "Preach to your brethren; maybe they'll listen"....What??? Huh???? Those cats got it too good. They don't have to do anything cause their damaged esteem girlfriend provides everything. They just have to make sure not to show her too much...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
I think other races [of women] do experiences it, but they seem to grow out of it[i.e. white women pursuing biker type guys, asian and hispanic women seeking out gangmembers, etc]. For Black women, I think, their problem stems from their decisions to have children with bad boy/thug. A choice which has a much longer attachment [a co-parent] than a lady saying 'when I was younger, I use to date gangmembers]. Choices..choices. Too many younger black women seem to operate from the stand point...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

MBM ·
To be clear - the point that I am trying to illustrate is that Con Feed's rants about the problems of black culture are really a result of classism and poverty in America that transcend race. Since we know that the white middle class has declined over recent years, if the black middle class has increased or decreased at a smaller rate than the white middle class - then whatever issues CF has with black people can be attributed to the effects that ALL middle/working/poor Americans suffer from...
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Re: Reparations and Poor Whites

MBM ·
Sorry, I didn't communicate the point well enough. It's not just that poverty exists, its that because America utilized slavery, it denied poor and working class whites the opportunity to feed their families, earn income, and build wealth. Absent slavery there still would have been an American economy. America would have had to pay the poor and working class folks here. If we can acknowledge a connectivity between the wrong committed to slaves and their descendents today, is it also not...
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Re: Reparations and Poor Whites

MBM ·
To quantify it, if slave reparations are awarded in the amount of, say, $50 trillion - representing the unpaid wages from the slavery era compounded with interest, couldn't poor/working class whites also make a claim for that amount since they would have been the ones to earn those wages had not slaves been imported to do "their" jobs? I'm trying to explore what others think about the point. Is it valid and logical? As well, I'm interested in the implications of this. Does acknowledging this...
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Re: The Effect of Public Schools on Our Kids

FireFly ·
I agree.... this is a really important point and I wondered - from the teachers among you (?) - if this aspect of teaching is ever touched on in training, or discussed between teachers. My other question is, after initial 'teacher training' and beyond day-to-day teaching experience where/how do teachers expand their knowledge? I'm curious... teaching is a mix of psychology, curriculum, staying technology-literate, ideas, and being socially-aware. Corporations have seminars and training...
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Re: Exploring a Stereotype

Black Viking ·
I don't disagree with you here, but I believe it's situational. There are many white women with exactly the same mind set, justified or not. I think that aggressiveness has its place, but like most things it should be used in moderation. The only area where a women doesn't need to utilize moderation is in her positive feminine attrtibutes: Flexibility, Giving, and Integrity. A lady can never be to flexible, to giving, or have to much integrity. So long as she is getting what she needs from...
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Re: Reparations and Poor Whites

James Wesley Chester ·
My first reaction remains, 'No.' The Colonies never established a viable economy without slavery. The forced labor created by slavery enabled the creation and maintenance of the cash crops of the agrarian economy that sustained 'The Colonies'. You will recall the economy of The Colonies, from the early 1500s to early 1600s, was hunting and trapping. Furs of various kinds was the cash crop. Slavery enabled all of the European Colonies in the Western Hemisphere. All the 'poor 'whites' you pose...
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Re: Exploring a Stereotype

qty226 ·
The key sentence in your response was....... "I think that aggressiveness has its place, but like most things it should be used in moderation." Im not too sure, what white women go through on a daily basis.....i can only assume. But being a black woman, i fight everyday. When you continue to fight at every turn.........you become aggressive, to maintain or achieve in life. The key for me was to learn how not to be aggressive.....when there was no need. (and i must add, not every black woman...
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Re: Exploring a Stereotype

Black Viking ·
Well put. I can see where your comming from. What I ment about the white women with that mind set is that they can be fighting every day just like you, even if they don't need to. I know as well as anyone when your fighting every day, being a warrior can easily go from being a hobby, to being a habbit, to being a lifestyle.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

UppityNegress ·
Constructive Feedback: thank you for ASS uming you know where I stand. If you have read any of my posts, you would know that I am for voluntary Black separatism and strengthening our own communities economically and politically through self-investment, not through asking the Democrats to through us a bone (or smiling when we perceive the conservatives do). Why do you criticise people who agree with you? At any rate, it doesn't change the fact that it is a f*cked up thing to do to deny a...
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Re: The Effect of Public Schools on Our Kids

Rowe ·
Good points.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
MBM - I am not sure who is worse between you or Empty in your theory that you can have man transform into behaving like ANTS, practicing 100% socialism above their own concerns. You and many other libs act like ultra-conservatives when it comes to the consideration of sending funds outside of America rather than spending it on your fellow Americans. There are many rich people who seek to keep their money for spending on their own families while people in New Orleans live in RELATIVE poverty.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Empty Purnata ·
CF, stop pretending that you "care". You aren't concerned that we are "placing an ideology above our own concerns", you are upset that that ideology is not Capitalism. If we were 100% Capitalists, you would have no problem. If we placed Capitalism above our own concerns, you wouldn't care. You are just upset that we are not Capitalists (well, at least I'm not, I'm not sure if MBM is a Capitalist or a Socialist he comes off as a Socialized Capitalist to me). I can get along just fine with...
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Re: Sago Mine Explosion - Another Bushco Production?

Empty Purnata ·
Kanye West claimed during Hurricane Katrina that "George Bush doesn't care about Black people." Kanye West was half-right. Bush doesn't care about Black people, but he doesn't care about non-rich White either, that's what alot of people seem to be missing. In fact, the whole Republican Party is geared towards rich-White business-owners, managers and the wealthy, elite capital class. They only pander to working-class Whites becuase they know working-class Whites make up a major voting bloc of...
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Re: Why do souls come to Earth?

Melesi ·
The "second death" is a phrase in the Revelation of John describing spiritual death and one's choice of and consignment to hell. It's not considered a good thing. The western Church for a long time took the Stoic/Neoplatonist idea that the flesh is "bad" and evil, but ever since the Reformation that has not been a serious concept. Now ansd then someone would revive the idea, but it never found much currency. When the Bible became cheap and readily available, the description of the world...
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Re: Prove Christ exists, judge orders priest

Fagunwa ·
Did I introduce 2pac into this topic or did you? How does what you wrote differ from what I wrote besides the justification for poor behavior? How did I deny human complexity to 2pac or by inference any other african? In fact the word complex is in my post. I thought Vox was making a joke so I injected a little humor in a post, did I enter your house unawares? I have been 25 years old but I was not "confused or self-destructive" I was in grad school (wait maybe I was confused) . Sorry I...
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Re: Prove Christ exists, judge orders priest

HonestBrother ·
OK. I hijacked the tread. I'm guilty!
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Re: Some sobering statistics on poverty

Pace Tua ·
Unfortunately, these numbers and what they mean have become "normalized", in the sense put forward by Edward Herman in his book "Triumph of the Market". It can only be so, as capitalism panders to the uncontrolled greed and self-interest of the few. These statistics have to be accepted, normalized or else people would realize something is wrong and this is a threat to capitalist culture. And there is a method to all this as well. One of the cornerstones is to promote the banality of evil.
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Re: Now Speaking of an Endless Loop Cycle of Poverty, Heavy Dependence on Social Welfare

Yemaya ·
AH.....you mean how poor whites took advantage of the welfare system during the FDR years to advance themselves while systematically blocking non-white groups from using the same system? The same system that all legal americans paid taxes into?Is that the kind of heavy dependence on social welfare you are referring to Mr. Lofton? Curious. I mean we do want to balance the scales on this topic. If welfare is wrong today, then it was wrong during the depression.
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Re: Are You a Racist?

MidLifeMan ·
Prejudice is, as the name implies, the process of "pre-judging" something. It implies coming to a judgment on a subject before learning where the preponderance of evidence actually lies, or forming a judgment without direct experience. Racism refers to beliefs, practices, and institutions that discriminate against people based on their perceived or ascribed "race". Primarily, it refers to an assumption that the human species can meaningfully be divided into races, together with hostility to...
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Re: Conservatives and Liberals: Why We Believe What We Believe

Black Viking ·
This is the part that confuses me about America. Realistically people should be voting for their own economic interests. But there are so many more "have-nots" than there are "haves" that I don't understand how conservatives get a foot hold at all. The only explaination I can find is ideological manipulation. The vast majority of "haves" are conservative for the reasons you stated, but they have some how convinced a huge number of "have-nots" that they have something worth preserving as...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

Rowe ·
Hundred years ago, when Blacks were having their bodies hung from trees, their testicles hacked off, and basic rights taken from them on a daily basis, I'm sure someone had pondered this very same question: "What can Black people realistically expect to achieve in this country?" Now, because of our ancestors' unwaivering faith and sacrifice, everyone everywere is asking themselves: What can't those Black people realistically achieve in this country? Black people have survived the worst...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

Black Viking ·
You must have been reading my mind Rowe, you took the words right out of my mouth. I've always felt that the American Dream was my dream, your dream, anyone's dream, what ever dream that is. This is the country where it can happen. No matter how bad things get, we always push through because we have a hope for something better. America has a sense of hope that I think is gone in most of the rest of the world. Despite all our short-commings I believe we a blessed.
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Re: Vouchers ???

Sweetwuzzy ·
Do you think the vocher movement today has the intention to desegregate ??? If the U.S. models its educational system like Poland or Belgium, most likely American schools will be segregated, but the segregation probably will not matter, because poor performing schools will be shut down, and the students from the poor performing schools will be put into educatinally better schools.So the children from poor performing schools will not be left hanging.
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Nmaginate ·
Intuitively, if not consciously, each and every Denier/Minimizer knows. For White Deniers/Minimizers, they know they benefit from continued racism/WHITE SUPREMACY. The way some act, they are addicted to, if not dependent on the idea. The very notion itself, the very idea of White Denial is racist in and of itself. It is an attempt to install WHITE SUPREMACY. Not only are Black people lazy, in their eyes, but Black people, for some reason, seem to want to believe Their Lying Eyes over what...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Empty Purnata ·
But, I have a few theories on who and what CON-Feed is (and he's not the only one here like himself, Michael Lofton doesn't count, he's a Spambot): 1) A CONSERVATIVE WHITE GUY WHO VIEWS BLACK PEOPLE AS BEING "BENEATH HIM" COMING HERE TO SPAM THE SITE WITH TRIPE (WHILE PRETENDING TO BE BLACK) THINKING HE CAN GET US TO BREAK DOWN AND ACT ALL "NIGGERISH" SO HE CAN GET A GOOD LAUGH. 2) An extremely sheltered Black man who grew up in a middle-class/rich home by Black Middleclass parents who told...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Nmaginate ·
Yahoo!! PUSSY!!! Over << here >> PUSSY!!! Man, I feel like the Gap Band singing, "You Can't Keep Runnin'"... But your PUNK ASS is full of sprints. Why is it that RHETORIC is the only and best tool in your busted ass tool box, CON-Feed? Never the one to engage. So you just BULLSHIT! Now, let's have it. What is the source of your Flailing, Grasping ISSUES? You obviously will never understand or submit to comprehending ENLISH!!! What's up with this connection you're trying to...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Sweetwuzzy ·
Yup. All the time. Racism is such a dirty word, and unlike the past, it is taboo to be openly racist, so racist must pretend that they are not racist and that racism does not exist.
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Re: A Two Way Street by Armstrong Williams

Isome ·
Maybe there are some GIVING seeds that we can pick up on the ground underneath THEIR trees... if we can sneak onto the property that is! It's only a considered a bad government program when resources like ACCESS, CAPITAL, and OPPORTUNITY are given (even in dribs and drabs) to poor individuals. When given to businesses, or the wealthy & connected, it's always a good thing.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
My Take on part two..in bold http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml Andre King Great article on the status of black man/woman relationships. I don't think that that is the end of the black man's opinion on this, however. Even though there were a variety of opinions on the subject, most of them seemed little more than simple preferences. And that is what I think all of this boils down to. If I were to date a woman of another race, I would date her because I...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Empty Purnata ·
Such fucking tripe. "If God chose to eliminate racism....." FUCK YOU! (not you, the other guy) So what's the excuse for the majority of White Aemricans only making $40,000 a year? Why is it that so many White students who are barely passing get into college easier than high-scoring Black students? Blacks score lower on tests because they are poor (Standardized tests are a poor way of judging intelligence, if that's what the racism-downplayers are getting at; there's that racism out of...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Nmaginate ·
I know one thing, that IF RACISM STOPPED TODAY... IF WHITE PEOPLE LEFT TODAY stuff hits me as a Poor Man's BIZARRO inverted take on this James Baldwin quote:
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Re: Al Sharpton Accuses Bush Of Fueling Homophobia Among Blacks

Black Viking ·
Is that going to change if they get married? Is this number a reflection of tax breaks that married people get, and what other variables are there? I have a hard time believing that this income gap is actually caused by being a same-sex couple. The same Census shows white same-sex couples actually have more median income than white heterosexual couples. If this is true, then we deserve what we got. This is another great example of ideological manipulation . It's pretty easy to follow. It...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Empty Purnata ·
NOW THIS IS KEY RIGHT HERE. I'm glad that you posted this, Nmag. Now these are things which harm Black Unity in America more than anything else (I would also add those who view quick monetary gain through illegal activity as "acceptable" to the dis-unity list). For Black Unity to be achieved, we also need more communal ethic with Black Businesses. Many Black Businesses operate just like White Businesses and just do business with whoever the highest bidder is (so in the end, it doesn't help...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Frenchy ·
Then what are you doing in this thread? The standards are what they are. The "cream" is what it is. Why do you give a shit what we consider the best to be unless you want us to change it BY LOWERING IT TO INCLUDE YOU AND YOUR PEERS? Isn't that your gripe? The cut-off is too high for your liking? Why should women give a shit what is to your liking with respect to the mates we choose?? See my point? That is bullshit semantics. There IS a hierarchy. The top is the top. PERIOD. Men put women in...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Black Viking ·
Here we go again... You're right Frenchy! It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the choices women make.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
Yes qty226 you are right. You are a black woman. You are the mother of civilization. And hence always right. And Pure. Your actions are always good and wise. Black women have the SOLE claim to racial victimhood. Queens without Kings ... We are only black men. We are not Kings. We are slime. Janitors who clean up the slime they love so much. We are N-I-G-G-A-Z: Never-Innocent-Gorillas-Getting-Ass-(in)-Zoos. Never up to any good. Lazy. Poor and incapable of earning 6 figures - which is what it...
 
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