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Re: Conservative Idiots

Isome ·
Speaking of living a closeted lifestyle, here's another idiot. This Christian fundamentalist with a sexual appetite for the same sex, has been a frequent opponent of homosexuality because it is sinful and destructive. It seems that Minister Lonnie Latham of South Tulsa Baptist Church in Oklahoma (you can see his photograph here on this snapshot of the church's website, since subsequent to his arrest it was removed form the main website )was caught soliciting an undercover police officer for...
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Re: Tolerance of Intolerance?

kresge ·
I am grieved to hear about your experience. I spent 12 years in academia as a college/university chaplain. Before my theological training, however, I obtained a B.S. in physics and mathematics, and an M.A. in physics. So I think that I might be able to relate to your situation from several positions. With respect to the AA community, I think that science and mathematics, little priority seems to be given to these disciplines. There seems to be much more of a connection with arts associated...
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Re: Al Sharpton Accuses Bush Of Fueling Homophobia Among Blacks

ricardomath ·
Black Church Summit 23 Dec 05 12:00 AM EST SCHEDULE OF EVENTS Sharpton and Flunder to Headline Black Church Summit on Gay Rights Focus on Homophobia and Exclusionary Divisiveness December 20, 2005 - Washington, DC - National Black Justice Coalition (NBJC) will convene a major discussion on lesbian and gay rights among black faith leaders. The two day Summit is to be hosted by First Iconium Baptist Church in Atlanta, Georgia and is scheduled for January 20-21, 2006. For a schedule of events,...
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Re: I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free.

Frenchy ·
The song is by Lee Greenwood, lovely Southern Baptist man. Surely, there are plenty of "freedoms" to be thankful for in this country. That we can even have these conversations on a public forum is something great. No one is completely free to do anything they want, anytime they want, but we have enough flexibility in this country to at least be a bit grateful.
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Re: The Dual Theology Heresy of John Hagee!!!

BOMANI ·
http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/hagee.htm JOHN HAGEE Who is this Man? JOHN HAGEE IN CHARISMATIC ORBIT- Dr. John Hagee is a bestselling author and pastor of the 17,000-member charismatic Cornerstone Church in San Antonio. He was an NRB '98 speaker and has an honorary degree from Oral Roberts University. He is pictured in the 8/00 Charisma-along with Oral Roberts, Benny Hinn, T.D. Jakes, and Kenneth Copeland-as a speaker for Creflo Dollar's International Covenant Ministries...
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Re: The Word ["Amen"]

Kai ·
Peace.... I do not think that scholars deny the connection between the proto semitic language and kemetic influences. The idea that the two are distinct is a fallacy. It is quite probable that Amen of ancient KMT is the origin of the use by the people of Shem. Shem according to the Tenahk, is the brother of Ham, according to many african scholars, including the illustrious Cheihk Anta Diop, Ham is derived from Kham, which is within the original name Khamit or KMT. If this is correct the...
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Re: Jack and Jill of America, Inc.

Diamond ·
Virtue, You are so right, we don't discuss the hurtful things we have done to ourselves. We are quick to point out what the white man has done to us but we very seldom discuss what we do to ourselves. I am ashamed to say that I have heard of the paper bag test. Not only with the J&J but with other black organizations. For example my church, I heard it said by someone I respect that a presbyterian is a baptist that has made it. In addition, my presbyterian church has a history of only...
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Re: Choose your oppressor

Fine ·
the baptist minister Kresge!
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Re: Christian ORIGIN of RACISM!

Nmaginate ·
Maverick, I definitely believe in GOD. Currently, I don't belong to any faith. I was baptized in a Missionary Baptist Church. I went C.O.G.I.C. while in high school and "studied" Islam while in college. Personally, I would like to explore African concepts/spiritualism. My wife goes to a Baptist Church so I go with her from time to time. I used to be very active though I came from a family where my mom would "send us to church". Spiritually/mentally the Christian Church doesn't satisfy me and...
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Re: CHRISTIANS how do you expect to get along in this world thinking like this?

Nmaginate ·
I am no less upset with you and your tactics - Semantics, deception, evasion, etc. To liken Paul to "THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW" and "THOSE WHO NEVER KNEW" yet were/are faithful to GOD is a desperate attempt to save face... or perhaps you can tell me what you intended to show and how that relates to the CONTEXT here. Beyond the fact that Paul came to know Jesus, hence disqualifying him as an example within the CONTEXT of this post - i.e. my question to you - PAUL, according to the scriptures had a...
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Re: Bush Spit Cost Us

Our Empowerment ·
Mobile, Ala. Howard Johnson II Army Pfc. Howard Johnson II, 21, of Mobile, Ala., was killed in action in Iraq. "He was God's gift to us and the Lord has taken him away," said his father, the Rev. Howard Johnson, who pastors Truevine Missionary Baptist Church in Prichard. His family says the deployment to the Persian Gulf was his first trip out of the country. His unit, the Army's 507th Maintenance Company, wasn't expected to see combat, but it was ambushed by Iraqi forces March 23. Johnson,...
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Re: White so-called 'Christianity' is responsible for unleashing demonism

Prophetessofrage ·
Christianity and Racism Rusty Wright -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does Christianity Promote Racism? Thirty years after the heyday of the Civil Rights movement, racial issues in the US remain sensitive. Racial quotas in the workplace and academia continue to be controversial. Prominent corporations are accused of racist practices. Certain supremacy groups promote the Bible, God and the white race. Race and politics interact in ways that...
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Re: White so-called 'Christianity' is responsible for unleashing demonism

Prophetessofrage ·
Hating in the Name of God By Benjamin Radford "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." -Pascal In the past few years there have been many high-profile criminals who share more than just notoriety and a penchant for racism and violence; they share a common religion. Buford Furrow Jr. shot at a Jewish community center in Los Angeles on August 11, 1999, wounding five people. He later killed Joseph Ileto, a Filipino-American, before he was...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Nmaginate ·
Would you explain that? What that schism is? I don't see either set as mutually exclusive. And do you really think it was "safe" for a Black man to preach anything anywhere in America that "threatened" White America? Perhaps this should move you beyond rhetoric:Now what did you expect for Malcolm X to do? Move to the South and "pick fights" with the Klan to prove his manhood? Let's be real. He traveled around the world, North, South, East and West "practicing what he preached"... I would...
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Re: President, greeted by protestors, lays wreath at King tomb

EbonyRose ·
This is an update to yesterday's story. Bush's Atlanta visit marked by protests Wreath-laying ceremony part of a two-city swing into South ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) --About 400 protesters lined the street across from the King Center in Atlanta as President Bush laid a wreath at the tomb of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. to commemorate the 75th birthday of slain civil rights leader Thursday. Carrying signs and chanting to rhythms pounded from conga drums, members of the crowd resisted efforts...
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Re: Happy Birthday MLK

Prophetessofrage ·
Hi KW I have inserted the link to this oration in the above post. What is the more remarkable about this writing that he won a contest for was how young Martin was when he so eloquently spoke this moving oration. Check out the following facts. "The Negro and the Constitution" [May 1944] Atlanta, Ga. On 13 April 1944, in his junior year at Atlanta's Booker T. Washington High School, King, Jr., won an oratorical contest sponsored by the black Elks. With the runner-up at Washington High, Hiram...
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Re: Christianity and the Bible

shebakoby ·
This guy you are quoting is a n00b. First of all: The dating is out of whack. It was assumed to be a certain way after Napoleon's scientists checked out the pyramids and stuff. Their assumptions may not be correct. Circumstantial evidence points to Akenaton as being the Pharaoh that JOSEPH knew--400 years prior to the Exodus. (nice coindicence there--a guy comes along with an interpretation of a dream, along with ONE God, and it comes true...so a Pharaoh declares there is ONE God. Hmmmm...)...
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Re: Mankind's Most Vicious Idea

DeltaJ ·
how the greed of capitalism corrupts Greed is greed. Greed is something that springs forth in human beings, not political systems or hot toaster ovens. It is in fact an issue of morality, even to an emotional state. There was greed before capitalism, there will be greed after it as well. There was greed in Rome, and there was greed in ancient Egypt. There was greed in the Catholic Church, and the Baptist as well, and there is greed in the islamic world, and dictatorships of every flavor.
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Re: Black Coalition Announces Gay Marriage Support

ricardomath ·
Here's the URL for the website of the National Black Justice Coalition : http://www.nbjcoalition.org/ Alicia Heath-Toby and Saundra Toby-Heath Alicia, 41 years old and Saundra 50, have been a loving and committed couple for 15 years. They live in Newark, New Jersey and consider their church, Newark's Liberation In Truth Unity Fellowship Church, their extended family. Alicia is an ordained Minister and Saundra; an usher. In addition to attending services on Sunday afternoon, the couple...
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Re: Good News

sunnubian ·
Black Organizations Seek to Aid Haiti FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Monday, March 15, 2004 contact: Joia Jefferson Nuri 301-920-0670 Lend a Helping Hand to Haiti Campaign Nationwide call for support through the media and community and church outreach PNBC Haiti Relief Fund, 601, 50th Street, N.E., Washington, D.C. 20019. Toll Free Information Line is 1-800-876-PNBC (7622.) or visit our website at www.tbwt.org At a press conference Monday, March 15th, in Washington, D.C., the leaders of several...
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

Vox ·
Q: How come Kweisi Mfume is credited with repairing the naacp's fiscal situation, if his position has nothing to do with that? Would the position change if Simmons is on? As for what I think about Simmons becoming president of the NAACP, I personally don't place any continued importance in them these days, so I don't really care. Far as I'm concerned, he may as well be running for the Baptist Church Ushers Association president. I think arguing about who they pick overstates this group's...
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Re: MY Way or Hell!

shebakoby ·
awww you got yo own widdle pet name fo me. LOL I'm flattered. I may be constipated, but I ain't "phony". We aren't "giving the world a religion", we are spreading the Gospel. Christianity is NOT a "religion"--it is not man reaching out to God. It is God reaching out to man. While legalistic fundies might get carried away, the truth is that we are only to preach and teach, not force people to believe. Giving people a choice here is key. We cannot convert people anyway. The Holy Spirit does...
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Re: Ossie Davis

Rashid ·
Tears flow in Harlem BY KERRY BURKE, LESLIE CASIMIR and TRACY CONNOR DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS Saturday, February 12th, 2005 From Hollywood to Harmlem, thousands of mourners gathered yesterday for Ossie Davis' last curtain call - a stately funeral procession through Manhattan and a star-studded church service. The famous stood alongside ordinary fans at Riverside Church to pay tribute to the late actor and activist and to give comfort to his widow and performing partner, Ruby Dee. They...
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Re: What Is The African American Ethnicity?

Kevin41 ·
Who Is An African American? - Part 1 By Yoji Cole -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © 2005 DiversityInc.com February 01, 2005 To answer the question in 21st-century America, look back to 17th-century British America and the colony of Virginia: "In the early 1620s slave traders captured a man in Angola, gave him the name Antonio, and brought him to the Americas, where he was sold to a colonist in Virginia. During these early days in British North...
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Re: Do African American women tend to be very religious?

HeruStar ·
34 and never dated a black woman. I think He's lying. Was he flirting with you, if so then it's game. If he's not lying (which I know he is)(Alabama... come on)then he probably started dating white women way to early, and now he can't relate with the sista's, and because he can't relate he can't date. Anyhow, Sisters don't know how to celebrate there man. I left my last baptist girlfriend for a buddhist chinese girl. Wasn't cause she was too religous either. It's because the chinese makes me...
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Re: Do African American women tend to be very religious?

nayo ·
"And because he can't relate, he can't date'. That's great! If the glove do'nt fit, you must aquit! rotfl!!!!! But, I especially 'appreciated' this, "It's because the Chinese make me feel like I was a national holiday, everyday.....For some strange reason, I just like being celebrated". Awesome! if brazenly egotistical lol! You deserve being treated the way you feel you should be treated.
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Re: Do African American women tend to be very religious?

AudioGuy ·
When the chinese new year is over, what happens then? Do you move on to the next ethnic group that makes you "feel good"? Let me get this straight... you left a good, strong, religiously grounded, Black woman, because she did not make feel like you were on a "national holiday" every day??? If that was the only reason, you ain't too bright.
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Re: Do African American women tend to be very religious?

Oshun Auset ·
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Re: Famed Atty Johnnie Cochran Dies

MBM ·
Famed attorney Johnnie Cochran dead at 67 LOS ANGELES (CNN) -- Famed attorney Johnnie Cochran, 67, perhaps best known for his defense of O.J. Simpson, died Tuesday at his home in Los Angeles. "Johnnie Cochran was a loving, heartful human being who cared about everybody," said Pastor William Epps of the Second Baptist Church in Los Angeles, which Cochran attended for 18 years. Cochran had been in a hospice suffering from a neurological problem, Epps said. Simpson told CNN: "I loved him as a...
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Re: Original Sin?

kresge ·
I am an ordained American Baptist minister. As you said, there is a difference between mainline denominations and what you see on TV. Also, while it may not have been explicit in what I wrote above, the doctrine of original sin is related to but not synonymous with the Fall. A strict understanding of original sin as given by Augustine is that humanity has not only inherited a tendency to sin, but that it has inherited guilt as well. In the Catholic understanding, this obtains because in some...
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Re: Original Sin?

Nmaginate ·
Nor have I come in contact with Liberal Protestants who promote human beings are basically good. To me, that's inescapeable if you're reflecting on GOD and just asking basic questions as soon as someone introduces the Original Sin. Frankly, I would have no real concept as to how prominent American Baptist is among African-Americans, e.g., or in general. I think as a whole Black churches tend to be more "conservative" and beholden to the Original Sin. I think that feeling is widespread and...
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Re: What Celebs Would You Like To Meet? (Dead or Alive)

AudioGuy ·
Assata Shakur Angela Bassett Nelson Mandela Sojourner Truth Harriett Tubman Malcolm X MLK Idi Amin My Great Grandfather (paternal) My Grandfather (maternal) Hannibal Haile Selassie The builders of the 1st African Baptist Church (Savannah, Ga.) John Coltrane
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Re: Reincarnation?

henry38 ·
The Jews believed in dead people having a rebirth. They believed John the Baptist was Elijah. Where did they get these belief system from? These are people with prophets who communicated with God directly. Jesus when confronted with the issue did not say the Jews were wrong, no on the contrary he validated the belief. Jesus said John the Baptist was Elijah. On a side note the Bible makes it clear when we die WE DO NOT GO TO HEAVEN as some would have you believe. We simply rot in the grave.
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Re: Original Sin?

msprettygirl ·
That reminds me so much of things my good friend, who is a practicing muslim (NOI), said to me when she explained the difference in my christian/baptist beliefs and hers.hummm...MBM you converting?
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Re: Spirit

kresge ·
Fagunwa or OA, That helps a lot. But your Barth joke does raise another issue related to my previous question. If you are saying that Olodumare is totally other, in what sense do you mean it. For Barth, God's otherness has to do with there being no other like God. God is not of a kind, of a category, of a class. But God's otherness for Barth means that God can be radically with us as no other can be. This is where I disagree with people who suggest in Barth that immanence disappears, and...
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Re: Spirit

Fagunwa ·
I agree %100 with your professor Olodumare is fully transcendant. I see the issues of transcendence and immanance the same as any ex-divinity student (smiling). Books are tough because of the initiatory nature of the religion. That said I love anything by Wande Abimbola and Fa lokun Fatunmbi. I also love Drewal.Especially "900 years of Yoruba Thought. Robert Farris Thompson's "Face of the Gods". These touch the surface, but for true depth one must be initiated into these mysteries and sit...
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Re: Spirit

Fagunwa ·
"Poor little Baptist Preacher"? You should be ashamed of trying to play that card man!
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Re: Spirit

kresge ·
I thought you would like that!!!!
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Re: 'Dominican' Voudo / Vodun etc...

msprettygirl ·
It's funny that u say that, but i kinda got that feeling. Yes i did a little bit of "investigating" after. I grew up in a black southern baptist church whose founding members also practiced Voodoo (as it's called down here) and as a child i did not really understand it- as a matter of fact it terrified me. i would always imagine and have dreams that they were drinking animal blood, ripping live chicken heads off and calling on the devil, but now that i am older, better informed and have...
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Re: 'Dominican' Voudo / Vodun etc...

AudioGuy ·
Go to your destiny, my sister, go to your destiny.
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Re: What do you think will happen after you die?

Sandye ·
I Thessalonians 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethern, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others were have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus Christ will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from...
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Re: Commentary: Today's Black Leaders Support Issues that Actually Hamper Our Progress

Kevin41 ·
I wonder about this group...with their hands out buying into that faith-based bullschit the at relieves gov't of its responsibility........... ______________________________________________________________________________________ Black Southern Baptist Pastors Say Slavery Issue Far in the Past DiversityInc.com news briefs are purchased from The Associated Press or written by the staff of DiversityInc.com. They cannot be duplicated or reproduced in any way. Our in-depth articles, published...
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Re: Commentary: Today's Black Leaders Support Issues that Actually Hamper Our Progress

EbonyRose ·
Most Black folk are followers of the religion they are because that's what they were told to do/be. It's no more surprising that some of them are Baptists than it is that they are any other sect of the Christian religion which was used to justify slavery or than it is that some are Republicans or support companies that help to advance racist policies ... here and all over the world. Independent investigation of truth is more the exception than the rule when it comes to us. Most of us just...
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Re: Original Sin?

SistahSouljah ·
I thought the same thing when I read that post. Muslims don't believe in that concept. Adam and Eve sinned, yes, and THEY WERE FORGIVEN because they repented. That sin was not passed down to every human thereafter. We are born pure and in a state of islam (submission to God), and it is through our cultures and families that we inherit religion. Left to our own devices, we would worship God in our own way. Muslims do not believe that Jesus (peace be upon him) died for anyone's sins. Allah...
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Re: Is Bill Cosby right? or Have the Black middle class lost its mind.

Kevin41 ·
A recent article: These People Bill Cosby's criticism of poor and uneducated African Americans set off a yearlong debate. Now Michael Eric Dyson has written a book that talks back. By Erin Aubry Kaplan Erin Aubry Kaplan last wrote for the magazine about the African aesthetic in the spring 2005 fashion collections. July 24, 2005 In these days of polarizing, pulverizing debates that make it almost impossible to describe what it means to be African American anymore, I find myself better off...
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Re: Anti-Gay Arson Terrorist Attack on UCC Church

Kevin41 ·
Church Sermons Stereotype Gays and Lesbians Compiled by the DiversityInc staff -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © 2005 DiversityInc.com The reproduction, duplication, distribution, photocopying, publication, modification, copying or transmission of material from DiversityInc.com is illegal and strictly prohibited unless you have written consent from this site. Violators will be prosecuted. For licensing or bulk subscription information click...
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Re: Anti-Gay Arson Terrorist Attack on UCC Church

ricardomath ·
On a more positive note... With open arms A handful of black area churches welcome gays Rev. Dr. Christine Wiley and her husband, Rev. Dennis Wiley, are co-pastors at Covenant Baptist Church, one of a few houses of worship in Washington, D.C., with a predominantly African-American congregation that welcomes and affirms gays and lesbians. Between Sunday services on July 24, they shared breakfast at the church. (Photo by Adam Cuthbert) By KATHERINE VOLIN Friday, July 29, 2005 For gay people of...
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Re: Made In China

Kevin41 ·
Fostering Goodwill With Jobs In South Carolina, a Chinese factory wins friends, a trend that is part of that country's efforts to boost its image in the United States. By Evelyn Iritani Times Staff Writer July 31, 2005 CAMDEN, S.C. "” This sleepy town of quaint colonial homes and Revolutionary War battle sites is an unlikely champion for China. It's the oldest inland city in South Carolina, a state devastated by competition from low-cost Chinese textiles. The state's most powerful...
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Re: African Immigrants and the African-American

Dusty Elbow ·
Great a minister. Now I have a questions to propose. Is DOING GOOD the same as DOING WELL? A man of God can certainly tell the difference. You do want to receive God's approval. No problem with this Same here family unit is community based. Businessman and women. Teachers. Doctors. Government employees etc. All are DOING WELL but does that mean they are DOING GOOD. Last time I check MEN still run the COURSE of this SOCIETY (leaders and family) in America. I really wish MEN were ACCEPTING of...
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Re: THE CONCEPT OF MALE PRIVILEGE

NSpirit ·
Hi all... Having grown up in the south in the baptist church, I was made to believe that men were supposed to make the major decisions, head up things, be served first...despite the hard work of the sistafolk to keep things going. i've also encountered my share of black men in work, dating, and worship situations who are not afraid to make it known that they don't like it when a woman "gets out of place". it's my contention that no man, black or otherwise should have the audacity to assign a...
 
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