Tagged With "The War On African America"

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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

James Wesley Chester ·
I can live with K41's reply i.e. equal reward for equal effort. I know what the 'end of the rainbow' is, but my ultimate expectation of America is societal parity. Not equality, but parity. And we have the key to that, not European-Americans. It appears we will be a long, long time achieving 'equal reward for equal effort'. We will not even demand equal treatment under the law. What can we expect??? That is more on point. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Vouchers ???

Guest ·
I have little doubt that this is your ultimate goal. It is interesting, however, that the very teachers unions HERE IN AMERICA are "further to the left on the political spectrum" BUT they advance concepts that are HARMFUL to the education of the kids while they promote job protection. It could be that we should EXPECT the teachers unions to advocate for their members best interests BUT UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE KIDS BEST INTERESTS IN MIND AND THUS THEY SHOULD NOT BE LOOKED...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Nmaginate ·
I don't think either JWC or SweetWuzzy quite got Nmag's clear point. With all the anti-school desegregation machinations where Whites tried to get government funding for their private schools... I'm like trying to see how come that RACIST history is ignored or forgotten. To answer Sweet... The intention is for Whites to obtain government subsidies for their private school perogatives. The problem and even the reason for concern over integration is how it is an American Social/Political Fact...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Empty Purnata ·
CON-Feed: "......*stuttering*...........Well, you depend on a CAPITALIST system created by the White Man. Why don't you go back to Africa and try making your SOCIALIST paradise over there where the White Man won't oppress you!.......*stuttering*........You use services invented by the White Man (the White Man invented and built America, you just live here), so you are a hypocrite!!!1111! You even use services made by WHITE LIBERALS meant to keep you dependent on the...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Empty Purnata ·
Now there is no debating that. Anyone who tries to deny the fact that "school vouchers" have a racist past, and most likely a racist modern-day intent, have their heads buried in the ground. Of course, many White racists will deny it to the end, and their Black-faced, chicken-eating, greasy-grinnin', coon-shuffling lackies will follow them to the ends of the Earth and beyond.
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Empty Purnata ·
But, I have a few theories on who and what CON-Feed is (and he's not the only one here like himself, Michael Lofton doesn't count, he's a Spambot): 1) A CONSERVATIVE WHITE GUY WHO VIEWS BLACK PEOPLE AS BEING "BENEATH HIM" COMING HERE TO SPAM THE SITE WITH TRIPE (WHILE PRETENDING TO BE BLACK) THINKING HE CAN GET US TO BREAK DOWN AND ACT ALL "NIGGERISH" SO HE CAN GET A GOOD LAUGH. 2) An extremely sheltered Black man who grew up in a middle-class/rich home by Black Middleclass parents who told...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Isome ·
You mean minimizers/deniers who say things like "thug culture" in comparison with the racism in America is worse for the Black community at large -- as if "thug culture" is a concept born, bred and thriving only among people of African descent, regardless of economic status or educational background, and without any external influences that nurture it? ...those kind of mindless, malevolent, deconstructive minimizers/deniers... that's what is being referred to, right?!
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Re: Vouchers ???

Isome ·
John Stossel has been a right wing shill for as long as he's been a part of 20/20. NOT showing both sides of the story is his modus operandi. excerpted from the book Banana Republicans How the Right Wing Is Turning America into a One-Party State by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber Jeremy Tarcher/Penguin, 2004 The career of John Stossel on ABC's 20/20 offers another example of the way the echo chamber works to place conservative ideas into the mainstream media, while hiding the interests of...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Nmaginate ·
Well, if that's anything close to his idea then surely he realizes that the schools are a reflection of the society. It's an indictment of the society, it's contradications and conflicting motives and myths. There is no way, save a DUMB one, to intelligently maintain that the conditions of American schools are the product of any one cause or culprit. The fact that schools, those that are less than up to par are what they are reflect on this society's commitment to education above politics...
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Re: Appreciating Black Beauty

Rowe ·
I'm a beautiful sister, however, this is a photo taken from the collection of African models that I keep on my computer. For what its worth, my astrological sign is "Libra," and librans are known to have a strong appreciation for beauty.
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Re: Appreciating Black Beauty

Rowe ·
Sudanese Beauty, Clara Benjamin, by way of London. Clara is a top model who has appeared in Vogue, and many haute couture fashion shows. She is the most sought after for her full pouty lips and distinctive African features.
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Guest ·
As I told my frat brother who encouraged me to join "N'Cobra" - I would consider joining BUT since he told me that they have a dual approach - REPARATION FROM AMERICA FOR SLAVERY and THE PROCESS FOR INTERNAL REPAIR WITHIN BLACK AMERICA. I told him that I would BE MORE FOCUSED ON THE INTERNAL REPAIR PROCESS. I would never do anything to stand in the way of the receipt of resources from America in the name of "Reparations" but this seems to me to be very much so less important toward acheiving...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Rowe ·
This statement is incorrect. According to research studies, most students who apply (and are accepted) into teacher education programs are White females. In fact, school systems across the country have and still are reporting a shortage in Black and Latino teachers, particularly Black male teachers. In response to this shortage, school systems have partnered with teacher education programs across the country in an effort to recruit more minority teachers. Please refer to the thread " Are...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

Sandye ·
IMHO, we should be striving to become a unified, self-sufficient African American community. We should encourage and support small individuals who have the potential to be the next Donald Trump or Bill Gates. We should establish more of our own banks, improve our urban "blight", develop business and professional incubators to enable us to decrease our dependency on those who seek our demise rather than our growth. Education is certainly key to self-sufficiency and we should strive to...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

James Wesley Chester ·
We, Americans who are African American, should aspire to a place and role of parity in American society. That place will enable us, as a people, to (finally) have equal protection under the law. That place would have our ancestral nationality to be recognized as an integral party our society. That place would enable us to function as individuals as every other individual in our society. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Guest ·
I am proud of Black Commentator. They made it to the second paragraph before they went on the attack. CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER - huh? Many who are involved in what THEY call "Civil Rights circa 2006" want everything BUT character to be the primary factor in JUDGEMENT. We have no "civil rights movement" today. We have an IDEOLOGICALLY based agenda" that seeks to use countervailing forces of racial categorization to achieve a certain result. Of course as long as YOU agree with their methods...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

HonestBrother ·
My purpose was * NOT * to establish a dichotomy that encapsulated all the options in front of African Americans. As I agree that there are many other more urgent matters. I was * Only * addressing the single issue of reparations. And thank you for answering my question: In regards to the issue of reparations, you're really NOT serious. Forgetting already? : Reading for COMPREHENSION is fundamental.
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
You keep saying that silly BS... Tell us, when will that One Day be? I'd like to mark it on my calendar. That or just have you concede that that's the most ridiculous and, for you, SELF-HATRED filled BS:See? That's the type of SELF-HATRED I'm talking about. Which one is it, CON-Feed? Will they STAY (and pull ladders, etc.) or will the GO (and leave Black people here in America on our merry, "dependent" own? Just make up your mind what BS you think is going to work best and be done with it.
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Re: Who Should Pay for Reparations? Black Americans... Obviously

James Wesley Chester ·
We, as black Americans, owe reparations for slavery.---Mike Green What a warped interpretation to put into the discussion. It is a betrayal of the best interests of African America. He will be rewarded well, and probably already is. And...it is willful. A boat-load of people, Project 21, who do 'Charlie's Job'. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
thanks for mentioning these books - I haven't seen them over here. can you expand/explain this a little more please? .
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Empty Purnata ·
Exactly!
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Art_Gurl, it's a (linked) commentary from the web-mag, The Black Commentator. The author is ANTHONY ASADULLAH SAMAD, an occasional contributer there. As for the books, I can vouch for WHY WE CAN'T WAIT. I've had the occasion to re-read/review it over the last few years. Perhaps it would shed some light on how the "race" conversation was "called to a halt" because MLK's actual ideas don't mesh with those who love to profess a belief in a "colorblind society." Perhaps you can tell me what you...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Seriously, you would have to tell me when an actual process of a Dialogue even began, in earnest. And that's the thing. In my thinking, an earnest attempt would require dealing with that one thing that caused us (you and I) some trouble earlier - WHITE SUPREMACY. My view, when talking about Race RELATIONS, there has to be a real conversations about RELATIONSHIPS. Power Relationships. In short, there can be no dialogue when a Slave - Master Relationship, a "Superior-to-Subordinate"...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

humblelynn ·
I think what we should be striving for and what we continue to strive for is reclaiming our communities and finding ways to make sure our youths aren't statistics. I don't believe that the truth myth of the American Dream exist for most Americans, and it has never existed for African Americans. Black Millionaires still cannot conquer the sickness of white supremacy, and as long as white supremacy exist, the American Dream cannot be and has never been a reality. As opposed to chasing after...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
fair enough - I just took that if something had 'halted' then whatever it was had already begun. Keep in mind I have zilch experience and knowledge of a lot of US politics - local and national - just a rough 'outline', so things like Affirmative Action, or when Clinton asked in 1997 'to begin a great national conversation on race and conciliation' that I have a limited view - limited to access on information, limited in viewpoint as an outsider, and a white outsider to boot. I have to ask a...
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Re: A Declaration of Unity and Vested Interest in America

James Wesley Chester ·
No, I didn't write it. But does kinda look like 'my stuff'. Right? Out of curiosity, and with it being the MLK Holiday, I thought I would post this piece without credits. This piece is the seminal resolution of the Free African Society Convention of 1817 held in Philadelphia at Bethel A.M.E. Church. The convention and its resulting resolution was in repudiation of the American Colonization Movement to deport African American-Americans. It is the seminal document to the foundation of African...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
NO! It is exactly that unbalance relationship that leads to a stalled, halted or forsaken "dialogue." Arguably, people could say Dr. King and Pres. Lydon Johnson started a "dialogue." For sure, a number of common folk or community leaders, mostly educators and religious leaders have had "dialogues." But hardly any thing that can be regarded as a serious "dialogue" where it counts, in the halls of power. As for Clinton's deal, you can research and look for opinions about that "conversation".
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

James Wesley Chester ·
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."---King I like that. It should be on a wall someplace, or used in the opening of every African American church. After all, that is the place we be found in numbers on a frequent and regular basis. I have used 'invincible ignorance' for years as an unknowing substitute for 'conscious stupidity'. This strikes me as another way to say the controversial words, 'We are our own worst enemy.' We refuse to...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Kweli4Real ·
In a recent departmental "Team-Building" exercise, we were asked to articulate our "Civil Rights Dream." Everyone gave the pat "I dream of the day when all people are treated fairly, with dignity and respect" or "I dream for the day when there is no longer a need for our department." And, everyone's head was bobbing, "Yep, Yep." Well, at least until they got to me, the only Black male in the division [well, there's one other, but he racially identifies with his white italian mother rather...
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Re: Vouchers ???

DogBreath ·
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sweetwuzzy: After reading Sowell's article, I clicked on his link to the Rose and Milton Friedman website. What is everyones position on vochers? Why are you for or against it ? Please do not resort to petty attacks such as "sell out," "Kneegrow," or Uncle tom !!" I really want to know how everyone feels about this?? I do not know if you saw this, but John Stossel did a show called "Dumb in america." I was a little annoyed how the show did not present both sides...
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

James Wesley Chester ·
I am noting that once again Ms Clinton is reaching 'into African American-related heritage to make her point. Like 'It Takes a Village...' I also don't think her analogy is terribly far off the mark, if at all. Washington, D.C. itself is, in fact, constructed on the plantation model. The city is a separate political entity controlled entirely at the discretion of the U.S. Congress, without active representation in the business of the nation. In its original construction, the residents...
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

Faheem ·
There is no watering over her analogy, there is nothing she can say or for that matter you can say that can juxtapose rich folk and bureaucracy with the way Plantations were run. While Plantation reality contradicted parts of the constitution, local and state law were in accordance with Plantation life. Plantation realities were far more than violations of parts of the constitution and I do not believe her analogy makes sense and lessens the impact of the role of Plantation in our...
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

James Wesley Chester ·
Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
My question is do the general public white Americans take the opportunity to ask questions about race of any kind? This may not be 'dialog' but it's a way to begin to find out how other people think. To ask what's it like to be black is a valid question for someone who isn't. It's an attempt to understand another viewpoint. It's a start... not a whole conversation. I do understand the above. I see there being two sides to the process. Clarifying one's own beliefs certainly. And having the...
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Re: Vouchers ???

James Wesley Chester ·
I guarantee you that black children will suffer the most from the voucher system. Keep in mind that private schools can be very selective when it comes to admissions. They DON'T have to take any and all comers. If a child tries to gain entry from a low performing school and brings with him/her a discipline record as long as a cafeteria table, do you actually believe they will allow said student to walk their hallowed halls?? Nope.---DogBreath Rather than 'naysay' the thing, why not take the...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Ummm... No, obviously, you don't. And this is exactly why: "I see there being two sides to the process." I'm going to be crude because you're working under the false assumption that Black people need to know something about White people. That's a rather curious idea especially when you say: Very few white people ever think about 'being white' and what that means... white privilege. Hmmm... Black people know White Privilege. What is it you think Black people stand to learn about White people...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Guest ·
Texas Star: UNITITY alone is not what we Black folks need. The dominant Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive Fundamentalist wants UNITY with ALL OTHERS dropping what they believe and rallying around their flag. They alone know all about Black folks and everyone else is wrong. I WANT UNITY BEHIND OBJECTIVES AND THEN METHODS TO ACHEIVE THEM THAT ARE PROVEN TO WORK. Prove that what you preach is EFFECTIVE and I will be the biggest cheerleader. Instead we have folks who run off of the notions of...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
Only helping white people begin the as you call it "truth-telling". The only thing I "want white people to get out of the dialog" is to listen to and understand what is needed for equal rights, equal opportunities for all people on the planet. In this instance I am talking about African Americans and white North Americans. What do I want black people and white people to "get out of it"? An end the imbalance of "white priviledge" to create a truly inclusive human race. You keep telling me...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
A straight line is always the direct route. Why the detour? Why would White people need to know "What It's Like To Be Black"... why would they need to "listen" to anything like that when you say the object is to End White Privilege? A straight line... Very few white people ever think about 'being white' and what that means... white privilege. Okay. Why isn't White Privilege - i.e. White people taking it upon themselves to examine White Privilege - an INTRAracial Dialog you're trying to seek?
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

James Wesley Chester ·
I almost hate to add to this already clear issue. Almost. Without simple cynicism, there is nothing to be gained by engaging in discussion to 'educate' European-Americans, or European America. Both are 'consciously ignorant', as in invincibly ignorant. We do not owe such an effort to either African America, or America herself. That ignorance, of the European American, is a cultured, and treasured perspective that successfully resisted all efforts to effect change. That 'promised land' is not...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Guest ·
Isome: Please detail the ERRORS in my post that you refer to INSTEAD of the points that YOU disagree with? Are they "wrong" because YOU disagree with them or are they "wrong" in absolute terms? It is interesting that when AMERICA talked about "unifying behind the flag" after the 9/11 attacks SOME PEOPLE like Al Sharpton wisely saw the consequences of doing so. (another positive comment about a Black person, HB). He saw the call for UNITY as a call to put aside all of his concerns that were...
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Re: Expanding on MBMs Inquiry ...

James Wesley Chester ·
Malcolm X. His evolution was most directed toward a parity position for African Americans in our society. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Well, ART_GURL, with JWC weighing in as EVERYONE (other than me) *lol*... It would seem that, in all your questions, with all the answers you're "looking" for, with all the answers you've gotten... Well, it's clear that you're just not listening. So, AG? Are you listening? You have been given information, rather freely I might add, about "what is needed for equal rights, equal opportunities..." But somehow, because of some pre-set idea you know you have ("two sides")... you're just not...
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Re: Vouchers ???

DogBreath ·
Rather than 'naysay' the thing, why not take the constructive route? With an assured tuition, enterprising African American-American now have a viable opportunity to create a school(s) for their own children in a construction they approve, and pay for. PEace Jim Chester[/QUOTE] That sounds good in theory....for real....it does. But do you actually believe that the powers that be would allow black folk to form their own institutions with taxpayer dollars?? Shucks, some are still complaining...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Guest ·
Rowe: I don't have the same views as your date. It is not about "working hard". PLENTY of people "work hard". For me it is about CULTURE and the PROCESS for achieving these cultural directives. Many Asian families have the concept of "Shame upon the family". This "pressure" is put upon the kids to have them act in line with some sort of principles and dignity as they conduct their lives. SURELY all of them do not abide by this all of the time but atleast it can serve as a course correction...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

MBM ·
As I've said many times over, there are thousands of African Americans who are 'doing their thing' in this country - achieving at the highest levels and acting in a way that is unencumbered by the ills that you are fixated on. It's a shame that this part of our community is apparently out of your view.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
EVEN MORE!! http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml More responses to "Do Black Men Still Want Us?" Spirited comments about romantic options and worries Letters to the Editor Published October 2, 2004 Where is the love? A magazine asks whether black men still desire black women. Eight men offer their answers. Black women speak out Earlier this week, African-American men answered women's question "Do Black Men Still Want Us?' Now women discuss their romantic...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Nmaginate ·
COP OUT!! And your typical Race To The RAT HOLE! I guess you have that thing you call "CONDITIONED HOPELESSNESS." You only have power/influence that only goes so far. You can't do any more than that. You're hopeless. The situation you're up against is hopeless. I mean, you rant, rave and rail against stuff? That you can't control? I thought you had a theory about that. You know, that you don't worry about things and people you have no control over. CON-Feed. It's NOW time for the STOP THE...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
My take on Part One:...in bold When elementary school teacher Patti Hairston picked up Monday's edition of the St. Petersburg Times, she braced herself. "I knew there would be negative things said about black women by black men," she said. very interesting, esp. since the writer of the original article was merely seeking the 'other side' of the Essence article. Lori Chung, 28, associate TV news producer, single, Brooklyn Personally, I don't feel the love from black men to black women and...
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

sunnubian ·
No, Hillary is correct. I think what is being misunderstood is that she is in the comparison the House of Representatives ARE the masters and the masses of American citizens are the slaves. I totally agree with her, and will go on to say that (as I have said before) that this republican regime IS running America like a plantation; During slavery, those with money held all the power in this country and disbursed it to whom ever and where ever they chose to, and held it back from whomever they...
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