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Re: The Arrogance of Men and The Naivety of Women

RadioRaheem ·
Re: The Arrogance of Men and The Naivety of Women
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
At the end of either process the Black baby is................? 1) Alive because "We know not the womb that holds the king"? or 2) Disposed of? Problem solved. **** Nick Cannon - "Can I Live?" Good thing HIS mother didn't express her "choice" http://www.nickcannonmusic.com/caniliveqt.html
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
MBM: I am really flattered at the being the basis for so many of your posts. I figured that by now you could at least represent my position more correctly. Founding Premise: Some people reside inside of a system that organizes resources and creates wealth. Some people reside outside of such a system. The challenge is to CREATE a system that generates wealth and a high standard of living for the people that are of interest to you balancing this demand with other values that are important to...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
........more likely, it is our own Black community that is disgraceful..... LA's Failing Black Hospital Shunned As "Killer King" Posted on: 2004-12-07 16:57:42 Once a focus of black pride in South Central Los Angeles, the Martin Luther King, Jr./Drew Medical Center has, according to a devastating five-part expose in the Los Angeles Times, "a long history of harming, or even killing, those it was meant to serve." The Times series details one fatality after another due to misdiagnosis or other...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
You haven't been listening. William Wilberforce and those many English Christians who followed him did follow Paul's example. The Christians in the American North did follow Paul's example. It was the basis for their activism for abolition. The "Christians" you really are talking about are the Christians in the American South, a minority of Christians, by the way. Many more fought for slavery's end than defended it pre-war. The reason teh Southeners defended slavery was because of the pride...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
My take on Part One:...in bold When elementary school teacher Patti Hairston picked up Monday's edition of the St. Petersburg Times, she braced herself. "I knew there would be negative things said about black women by black men," she said. very interesting, esp. since the writer of the original article was merely seeking the 'other side' of the Essence article. Lori Chung, 28, associate TV news producer, single, Brooklyn Personally, I don't feel the love from black men to black women and...
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Re: Asking too much?

donna529 ·
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I ADMIRE YOU FOR BEING IN A SITUATION, AND HANDLED IT WITH PRIDE. GIRLFRIEND, I WISH I WOULD HAVE WAITED BEFORE I GOT MARRIED, BUT I DIDN'T. THIS IS NOT TO BE LOOKED DOWN ON. YOU WILL BE SURPRISED ABOUT HOW MANY MEN...YES MEN, THAT ARE STILL VIRGINS, AND LOOKING FOR A WOMAN THAT IS A VIRGIN TOO. DO NOT LET YOUR SO-CALLED FRIENDS TURN YOU AWAY FROM THE FUTURE GOAL YOU WANT TO REACH. DEEP DOWN I WILL BET YOU A DOLLAR THEY ADMIRE YOU, BUT LAUGHED BECAUSE...
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Re: What is a Sellout?

Nmaginate ·
One major problem with this is how the inexplicable behavior of a few gets generalized on the whole or the majority. Case In Point: "It was the insult that underachieving Black schoolchildren threw at their overachieving peers." Not only are there built-in exaggerations but the whole thing speaks in extremes. What does the natural B and C student think about said "overachievers" (assuming we're talking about straight A... AP types students as opposed to a traditional D student who has worked...
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

FireFly ·
Great that you posted these musings Melesi. I don't have common reference points with you as far as a diet of Arthur Miller or Jose Ortega y Gassett, so my response is more intuitive, being someone who does draw and paint. And therefore subjective, which all discussion of art ultimately is. I'd like to know your own personal thoughts and interactions on/with modern art though, references aside. First off, every artist is an individual. They may be popularist, obscure, political, commercial,...
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

Melesi ·
art_gurl, ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ And therefore subjective, which all discussion of art ultimately is. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ While most discussion of art is subjective, not all of it is. The history of art is not, and discussions of art schools and methods is not, either. That was the discussion that I started. You will note that I did not judge the individual works of artists except for Jackson Pollack, and then only to the extent of saying that his art is all very similar to...
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Re: Life After Limbo

Melesi ·
MBM, ++++++++++++++++++++++ becuase something is done out of principle does not say anything about whether it is right or just or valid. Principle can be wrong, immoral, even sacrilegous. ++++++++++++++++++++++ Does this include our principles, too? If so, how can we discern between the good ones and the bad? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Also - the argument about condoms is wanting. On the one hand you value the human decision to marry or abstain, yet you do not value the equal human...
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

ZAKAR ·
If you dont have a firm KNOWLEDGE OF SELF, this white mans world with make you think you have no worth or you are less than any other human.But with that knowledge of who you are where you came from you have a frame of reference to draw on besides those forced on you through propaganda.Me personally I love sistas, especially attracted to brown and darkskinned sistas who loves who they are in their essence. Those who take pride in the natural texture of their hair the strong features in their...
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

Empty Purnata ·
I think Melesi is approaching the advanced stages of Fundamentalism. Sirens are blaring in my head after reading this thread. He sounds like how I used to sound 2 1/2 years ago when I was a Fundamentalist. Everything modern, postmodern or intellectual is some sort of stealthy, pernicious attack on Christianity. Everything is some subliminal plot by the "intellectual elites" to deceive the masses. This especially caught my eye: Sounds like he's saying that Modern Art is a plot to set up a New...
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

FireFly ·
yes, well my hopes for a conversation pontificating about art ad nauseum were dashed (dammit!!) when I 'encountered' this surprise package of uppercase upstarts and lowercase classisms... and smugness disapppointed, dazed and
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

HonestBrother ·
Sounds like he's talking about HiMsElF again! Art, there's no need to be Super HB is on the case! Melesi is REALLY a self-absorbed dauber in a garrett! He's making fun of you as a representative of the masses because you don't understand his game
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

Melesi ·
art_gurl, I think we are talking at cross purposes. I am not talking about "art." You seem to be. That's fine, except that it confuses the issue, because you keep assuming that I'm talking about what you're talking about, and we are not. You draw an incorrect conclusion form a simple statement: +++++++++++++++++++++++++ I don't particularly care if they write or paint in a way easy for me to understand. +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Which you then say is about art. It isn't. Check the context...
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

FireFly ·
Melesi... arguing art and individual perceptions of it (art is more perception that fact) is such a HUGE topic. You are very fond of labelling and categorizing, whereas I try to avoid labels and stereotyping. What if I reject the term post-modernism for example? Or Modernist? Where does that take the discussion? They aren't actual questions. I am still mystified why you express the view with such authority that Rowling writes 'in a christian way' which is why I asked for some qualification...
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

Melesi ·
art_gurl, +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Melesi... arguing art and individual perceptions of it (art is more perception that fact) is such a HUGE topic. +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Agreed. That's why I don't mind either discussing it or anyone disagreeing with me. Arguing a topic with logic and intention but without rancor is helpful. Either I help someone else think more clearly, or I learn to. Either way, it's worth it. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You are very fond of labelling and categorizing,...
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

Khalliqa ·
There are many Black people that will try to make you feel that way as well......
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Re: Conservatism and African America

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Funny how you wouldn't answer the very question that I put forth with regard to left-wing progressivism in our community AMONG BLACK PEOPLE. Here is my shot: The Black community has traditionally been bound by CULTURAL PRECEDENT. For the longest you had a mother and grandmother who warned against "Shacking" and who could read the character of a "date" that you brought home the very first time they met them. Economically, prior to our forefathers moving North we worked the land. There was a...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Khalliqa ·
May I? I have an opinion... based off of personal experience.... It is not natural to exist under the thumb of another culture and retain your dignity and peace..... Our Men are supposed to be ruling in a world that reflects our history, our makeup and our future..... (Not that sisters are not a part of this---sigh----I'm just focusing on Men for a second) Many women I know want strong men.... The Alpha male is not always the brute..... he is simply the most powerful..... most powerful...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

ronin10 ·
If this is your justification for women wanting thugs, then these women get exactly what they deserve. If your statement is true, now I realize why black women aren't interested in me and why most women of other races are.
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

nayo ·
Awesome post 'Virtue'. I am somewhere in the middle of your 'theory'. Definately not interested in the thug; although I did meet a 'Good Will Hunting' guy several years ago @ Southern U. (Baton Rouge), and I tell you, it was 'touch n' go'; he was a math genius, but had that 'dangerous, 'scary' edge', that my gut instinct threw shade at. Wow! But, I totally get the need/want for not necessarily a God', but someone, who, as you so eloquently stated here: "I suspect on some level...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Khalliqa ·
Thanks! You know you made me think of another example.... If you saw the movie "Crash" there is a scene where Terrence Howard's character's wife is molested by a police officer in front him..... and he does nothing and feels powerless..... They are obviously well to do.... upper middle class.... There's also a scene where Matt Dillon's character saves Howard's wife.... after she has been degraded by him... and watched as her husband was emasculated before him..... it was He that "saved" her...
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Re: People of Color' are All One? Latino Inmates in L.A. Don't Think So

UppityNegress ·
My choice or words were insufficient to convey my thoughts. "Adapt" would probably be more accurate than "assimilate". Am I suggesting they start calling themselves Bob and Susy, dye their hair blonde, and leave all of their cultural trapping behind? Of course not. However, it is considered normal decency to actually learn the language of your host country, and respect the values and tradition of said country. There is a steadfast refusal of a significant portion of the Mestizo population to...
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Re: The Left Hand of God

Melesi ·
+++++++++++++++++++++++++ I did not claim one had to be religious in order to be oppressive nor have I ever gone on record as being for the elimination of religion. Nor have I ever expressed the view that by getting rid of religion we would also rid ourselves of hatred, ambition, and oppression. I've actually expressed opposite views on a number of occasions. So where you get these ideas is beyond me. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You are not reading, either. What I wrote was slightly...
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Re: "Church Of The Spread Legs"

Frenchy ·
Let the church say, "Amen!" Completely agree with the article and the writer's frustration. Men seem to pride themselves on holding back emotionally for as long as possible, even when their feelings are otherwise. My male friends will scream and cry and stress over a woman, but all of a sudden get cold as ice and "whatevah" as soon as she's present or when around other men they don't know well. Everybody wants to worship, but nobody wants to tithe. Where is the offering? A lot of y'all are...
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Re: "Church Of The Spread Legs"

FireFly ·
Not all men... but enough to make it annoying. nothing to add here and who's foolin' who?
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Re: Working Up A Black Sweat...

nayo ·
What were you proud about? What were you disgusted about?
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Re: Working Up A Black Sweat...

Khalliqa ·
I was proud to see such a dark skinned, full bodied woman as the sole love interest of a man done with some class..... The focus was on this sister.... and the title seemed to go right along.... But.... there are parts in the video that I find her distorting herself or Prince making mockery..... as if she just couldn't be sexy, beautiful and attractive.... she had to be a bit degrading..... That's why I didn't want to give my opinion until other's did.... I wanted to see how my views stacked...
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Re: Working Up A Black Sweat...

nayo ·
Understood. I on the other hand, while deeply appreciative of the video image of the beautiful black 'susta', was chagrined (read: suspect)by Princes' 'use' of her particular beauty; as he has rarely if ever used a 'full bodied/African beauty' b4, in ANY of his videos. It was always about the 'latina' or the 'biracial' beauties. There was a discussion on another board where young black and white females discused this very topic, and a few of the white females were 'confused' lol! What did...
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Re: Organizing the discussion

Black Viking ·
For the love of God, would you two stop it? Ladies, could we all just swallow our pride for a minute here to maintain the integrity of this thread? I think the topic of this particular forum warrants that.
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Re: Organizing the discussion

Khalliqa ·
Ummm... okay.... True.... But..... It's not pride for me... it's respect.... more than willing to carry this somewhere else..... also more than willing to call it a day.... no sweat... Peace, Virtue
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Re: aggressive women

Black Viking ·
Actually, I think that this is the preferable situation all around. Women always control the speed of the relationship anyway. If you're moving faster than her, you wind up chasing her away (women do not deal with pressure in relationships). However, if she's moving faster than you, then all you have to do is periodically put on the brakes by maintaining your self control. This only increases her interest in you (many men lack this self control, but women go crazy for it). So, it makes her...
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Re: Albinism: The "Bleached" Uncolor {Revisee}

Dusty Elbow ·
Albinism is not a curse ... By: Wilson Dzebu Albinism could not stop Thembiso Nemutanzhela from achieving what she set out to do in life. People with albinism were in some communities regarded as outcasts but Thembiso, from Thohoyandou, has successfully proven that hard work is the only key to success. "I am a human being like everyone because I was created by God. The fact that I have the albinistic condition does not make me different from other community members..." Despite all the odds,...
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Re: aggressive women

HonestBrother ·
This is SOOOOOO true... I know this applies to no one here but the guys who go all out chasing a woman - these are the so called nice guys who come up with nothing. I prefer letting the woman chase me - I tease and flirt enough to catch her attention and then let her make the major moves. I don't 'chase' anyone.
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Re: aggressive women

EbonyRose ·
I do know many women to whom this woudl apply! THAT'S really funny!
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Re: Working Up A Black Sweat...

Fabulous ·
Hi Virtue Here's a link to the video you're referring to: Prince -- Black Sweat Check it out, y'all http://mp.aol.com/video.index.adp?pmmsid=1462161&refere...tistid%3D5182&mode=1
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Re: They Say You're "Acting White"? You Probably Deserve It

ItAintEazy ·
And with me, this is also tempting, but I'll pull my punches. Still listen to you. You place yourself above less fortunate blacks, have pride that your kid doesn't attend one of "those" schools, and you flaunt your lifestyle worst than those glitzy video rappers. Yep, I'd say those are hallmarks of "acting white". Yes, I recognize there are ignorant black folks out there, but they shouldn't be an impediment to affect change. Like I say to white folks, you don't participate in the struggle in...
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Re: They Say You're "Acting White"? You Probably Deserve It

Nikcara ·
This is way to easy, I can't believe you fell for it. The National Bar Association is the Leading Black Bar in this country, most state Black Bars are affiliate members. The National Brotherhood of Skiers is the largest ski club in the country, and it is all Black, 20,000 members strong, and yes I said the largest in the USA even white ski clubs do not get this big. I partisipate as a Mock trial coach at a Newark High School, last year I was a coach at a Jersey City High School as well. The...
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Re: They Say You're "Acting White"? You Probably Deserve It

xxGAMBITxx ·
Nuff respect due.
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Re: Men... tell it like it is!

Huey ·
And ladies, if you want a bad boy or a good one, say you want one. Don't date a bad boy and try to make him "good." You're just customizing or "pimping" out your thug as if he was a car. The only person you can change is yourself. I've seen guys who weren't thuggish, and some women rather have them as just a friend than as a boyfriend, because he's already good to her. I guess making a bad boy go good, gives that woman a sense of pride that she "created" the new him, like from a beat-up...
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Re: Jack and Jill of America, Inc.

MBM ·
Jack and Jill has little to do with elitism within African America. As I see it, it is about trying to maintain cultural integrity within largely white suburban communities. The families come from the ranks of the professional and college educated. To the degree that that is elitist, it is. But the purpsose is to instill pride and establish links among African American children where they might not always exist. I grew up in a white suburb of Boston in the highly racist 1970's. Jack and Jill...
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Re: Jack and Jill of America, Inc.

HonestBrother ·
I didn't intend to imply anything overly nasty about Jack & Jill. But, coming from the black working class like I do (and I'm also first generation college educated), dealing with 2nd and 3rd generation middle class black folk can be stressful - you are sometimes put off by a certain elitist strain - or at least tendency to take far more for granted than I do...
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Re: Jack and Jill of America, Inc.

kresge ·
My wife has some older family friends here in Houston that fit all the stereotypes. They insists on the use of their titles in informal conversations, they love dropping names, pimping their Greek organizations, etc. To date, I find it all quite superficial. Unfortunately, my wife has already let me know that if we have kids, she wants them in these circles. I will just have to train my kids to be subversives.
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Re: Nationalism VS Assimilation

ZAKAR ·
I think thats a very elementary look at it. First of all the NOI not only teaches black people pride in themselves, it makes them productive members of their communities. Has the NAACP done this Urban league, are these so called reactionay organizations. Finally the Right to Self Determination is in no way simply doing the opposite of white folks. Nationalism believes in the Africans abilities to use their own culture their own heritage and their own ideology to battle this system of white...
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Re: Sistas, what's up with....

Khalliqa ·
Frenchy...... I was speaking to an attitude I ran into when I returned to Atlanta among the young sisters here..... But admittedly this is just personal experience... certainly not a study done of ATL women..... yet, I'll still share it with you..... In conversations..... the sentiment seems to be that to be "competitive" a woman must take on the characteristics of men (or at least what one generally perceives to be)....... some of the characteristics are "not open".... "less emotional" or...
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Re: Jack and Jill of America, Inc.

Khalliqa ·
You know I was trying not to mention that..... it was a reality for me personally in Georgia... though not with J&J..... the paperbag test....... was applied here in Georgia by many members of the organization.... tthough not all..... but enough that it was a common practice..... I do not think skin color is an issue any more.... at least not to the extent it used to be.... I think income and status was and still is a significant factor.... which is why.... it's good to instill...
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Re: Black Folks: It is Time to Lay Down the Mantle

EbonyRose ·
Exactly, Frenchy!!! But every immigrant has the right to choose . Brown skinned or not, whether they enter illegally or not. The difference between the immigrant and the African American is that you look back at your heritage and ancestors and the choices they made and how far they've come and how far they brought you and how far you're going with a different kind of pride than I do. It's no less as stong, but it is different. I look back at my heritage and ancestors and there was no choice...
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Re: Jokes for a Laugh & a Smile

Fabulous ·
After being interviewed by the school administration, the eager teaching prospect said: "Let me see if I've got this right. . . You want me to go into that room with all those kids, and fill their every waking moment with a love for learning, and I'm supposed to instill a sense of pride in their ethnicity, modify their disruptive behavior, observe them for signs of abuse and even censor their T-shirt messages and dress habits. You want me to wage a war on drugs and sexually transmitted...
 
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