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Re: Black Voting Rights Under Attack

James Wesley Chester ·
"Today, there is a new and real threat to minority voters, this time from cyberspace: computerized purges of voter rolls." MLK III This is a real issue. But, it seems off the mark. It's not that we shouldn't be doing what is needed to keep this from happening. But what about the law that has already said the protection of the right to vote, on the basis of race and color" shall terminate? That law says that decision shall be reviewed. Congress fails/refuses to do it, and we, or leaders,...
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Re: Who celebrates Kwanzaa?

EbonyRose ·
Additional FYI ... Within the text of the EP, states and territories that Lincoln considered being "in rebellion against the United States" were: To these states he proclaimed: Lincoln was no saint. He did it to gain an advantage in the war, and used a State's willingness to be part of the Union (or Government) as an excuse not to abolish slavery in them, so as not to allienate support for himself amongst those states in the north who still had the slavery law (and slaves) on the books!
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Re: Good News From Colombia (for once!)

ricardomath ·
Offbeat Leftist's New Take on Bogota An oil union chief and former caddie drawn to salsa bars, Mayor-elect Luis Eduardo Garzon aims to fight poverty. By Ruth Morris, Special to The Times BOGOTA, Colombia "” Luis Eduardo Garzon is hardly part of Colombia's ruling elite. He doesn't own a tie, he didn't finish college, and he hangs out in sweaty salsa clubs. But after a turbulent electoral weekend, he has streaked into the stratosphere "” a former golf caddie turned shining star of Colombia's...
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Re: Another debate on CNN right now

Our Empowerment ·
I'm interested to know what Brotha or Sista if any would feel okay with Dean, after this exchange: This came from the debate via CNN. thanks Keylargo. On a totally different not,Key, have you been to Keylargo, and if so do you plan to relocate. I kinda look at it like being in the carribean. What's your view? > ... its time for Prosperity > > > An African American Board Game Of Wealth & Success.
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Re: JFK Assassination: 40 Years Later

Yssys (Guest) ·
I don't think Oswald killed JFK. I don't think James Ray killed Martin L King, but enjoyed taking the credit for it. I don't think those two brothers who served time for killing Malcolm X were responsible for his death. I can't even say that the government had anything to do with their deaths. I think all of these assassinations were set up and orchestrated by the CIA, an organization that has access to all of our tax dollars and doesn't even fall under the jurisdiction of the U.S.
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Re: White so-called 'Christianity' is responsible for unleashing demonism

Prophetessofrage ·
"Reflections on White Racism" A Sermon preached by John Buttrey on January 13, 2002 Added 02/11/02 1. White Privilege & White Racism Some of you will not agree with everything I'm going to say in these reflections on white racism. I hope all of you will feel some discomfort. If you don't feel that, you aren't paying attention! I'm not comfortable with this issue. I begin with a test I found in my files. Keep track of how many of these statements are true for you. 1. If I move I can be...
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Re: White so-called 'Christianity' is responsible for unleashing demonism

Prophetessofrage ·
Racism is treating people differently because of the race or culture to which they belong. In the last 500 years the 'white' race conquered and occupied much of the world and saw the people that they defeated as heathens and as inferior. One of the things that was considered inferior was their religion and following on after the soldiers came the missionaries. Over the last 50 years there has been a growing awareness by the western Christian church that racism has been part of its history.
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

MBM ·
Don't you think that Martin's approach was predicated upon choosing (what in his view was) the most effective tactic to achieve his objective? As with Ghandi before him, Martin chose non-violence/passive resistance as a tactic to get what he wanted. Does anyone think that Martin wanted freedom any less than Malcolm? Perhaps he just selected a tactic that he believed would be most effective in fighting against a vastly superior violent/military/police force to achieve his objective. I wonder...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

sunnubian ·
When I was young, I admired Malcolm and was disgusted with Martin. But as I got older and was able to gain access to more information regarding MLK, I did come to understand that sometimes the bravest thing a person can do is refrain from violence. I know now that Martin knew that any show of violence would send the wrong message to white America of what Black people were about and wanted. I know now that Martin knew how many Black people would have suffered for every blow of self-defense he...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Nmaginate ·
You present, IMO, a false positive and, for certain, conflicting ideas with your own exploration here. How at once you can ask a conclusive rhetorical question: At the end of the day, though, didn't they both share the same objectives? Didn't they both fight and die for black liberty? In some sense, didn't the fact that there was a Martin make Malcolm more effective, and vice versa? ...that, IMO, suggests that the two philosophies are necessary and inseparable then revert back to posing...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Nmaginate ·
JUXTAPOSITION:Are we talking about the same "end" of the same "day"? Do you not see the contradictory/conflicting ideas there?That presumes that both held the same objective - i.e. defined it the same - and that you can objectively measure or plot on some scale or rather on the same scale where they both rank. I'm not sure you can do that. Anyway... if you tell the truth we continue to revisit the very things Malcolm X presented... And, of course, some of what MLK did too, but that is...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Nmaginate ·
Would you explain that? What that schism is? I don't see either set as mutually exclusive. And do you really think it was "safe" for a Black man to preach anything anywhere in America that "threatened" White America? Perhaps this should move you beyond rhetoric:Now what did you expect for Malcolm X to do? Move to the South and "pick fights" with the Klan to prove his manhood? Let's be real. He traveled around the world, North, South, East and West "practicing what he preached"... I would...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

MBM ·
There's a lot to respond here. I'll come back to this as I can. First, I am not creating a schism, but merely noting that one exists and probing to determine its nature, depths, and connection to each's contributions. I posted a poll recently that asked who one would prefer meeting between MLK and Nelson Mandela. Yssys responded, essentially, neither. She preferred Malcolm X. That response got me thinking about the differences in perception between Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X. There...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Faheem ·
MLK and Malcolm both served a purpose and they both contributed to who we are today, however, if we are going to ask if Martin gets a bad rap we need only to look at the end result of his works and what it has produced, meaning our present day condition. I would have to say he does not get a bad rap, based on the thinking of today and looking at the end result of his work. I think MLK passive approach was appreciated more by white folk because it was none threatening and made white folk...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

MBM ·
Friend, in business people talk all day, everyday, comparing and contrasting different business strategies. Go to a library or bookstore; there are thousands of titles on how and why different companies did their thing in different ways? The objective of business is to maximize shareholder wealth. There are an almost infinite number of strategies and tactics to do that however. Same with military strategy. The objective is to secure military victory. Ever read Clausewitz or Sun Tzu regarding...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Nmaginate ·
MBM, "Passive" was your "popular" conception term. Admittedly I added "whimpy" to further characterize the "popular" conception but that's not at all what I think of it. I said I DON'T CHOOSE or feel the need to. I see them both as equally necessary and inseparable imperative. What don't you understand about that? I've only said like 1000 times now!I'm not sure if Malcolm himself said that. I'm sure H. Rap Brown did it. What don't you understand about self-defense? I acknowledge that...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

MBM ·
Dude, read my posts, please. I've not said anything in any way to suggest that you have "bias". C'mon! Strategy applies to any endeavor. LOL! I really wish you'd take a deep breath and READ. You're WAY off base. I'm really not sure at how we got to where we are on this! Great, then I hope you'll read my words in the same light. Why does this question bother you so? Because you're arguing a completely separate point. I'm sorry I can' make you see that. Can you please reread the question at...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

James Wesley Chester ·
I think a lot of MLK'S success was the result of the high activity of its spinoff SNCC, and high inciting voice of Malcolm. The in-the-street reality of The Black Panther party was also a strong contributor, and maybe of equal magnitude. Then President Johnson had choose. Did he want Stokely, Malcolm, or Huey, in any combination, or did he want Martin. In order for Martin to be successful, he had to have some successes. The masses were being divided among the "angry three." This is not to...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

MBM ·
But did MX expose himself to the public in the way that MLK did? MX wasn't exactly leading marches or doing book signings (where MLK was stabbed). At the end of the day though, he suffered the same fate that Martin did. There is no passion to be found playing small, in settling for a life that is less than the one you are capable of living. - Mandela
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Nmaginate ·
All the speeches Malcolm X did at all the various colleges, etc... That doesn't equate to "exposing" himself? THe trip to Mecca and Africa? C'mon... We just need to stop this madness. Now, as for Blacks brandish guns, etc. I have offered the Deacons For Defense, let alone the BPP... And if anyone wants to dismiss them (particularly the BPP) as irrational radical hot-heads then all I have to say is that they would be without a doubt either someone who is very ignorant or someone whose...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Yssys (Guest) ·
I was snowed in this weekend, so I'm just getting to the board after a hiatus. This is an interesting topic. I am one of those people who admires Malcolm X and I must say, there are more people in the Black community who grew up listening about MX at home rather than Martin here in the Northeast. I would be willing to bet that many of our white friends who visit us would say that they like Martin much better. He makes them feel good about themselves, he didn't pour too much truth out on...
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Re: WHY ARE BLACK WOMEN SCARING OFF BLACK MEN?

Huey ·
Huey, baby, I have this sneaky suspicion (call it woman's intuition) that you just skimmed over my response(s). I know I can be long-winded but in order for you to correctly argue me shouldn't you interpret my comments in the proper context? First, I could've sworn I said "if men..." Secondly, "Laura and Myra had the same social staus?" I haven't recently been watching the re-runs but I couldv'e sworn Myra attended a private school for teenage prodigies. [QUOTE] -->The bottom line is that...
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Re: WHY ARE BLACK WOMEN SCARING OFF BLACK MEN?

LilFoxyBrwnIntellectual ·
Huey, baby, I have this sneaky suspicion (call it woman's intuition) that you just skimmed over my response(s). I know I can be long-winded but in order for you to correctly argue me shouldn't you interpret my comments in the proper context? First, I could've sworn I said "if men..." Secondly, "Laura and Myra had the same social staus?" I haven't recently been watching the re-runs but I couldv'e sworn Myra attended a private school for teenage prodigies. Anyway Huey, baby, I don't get your...
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Re: Brown vs. Bd. of Education: 50 Yrs. Later

Rowe ·
Reply: Nmaginate: I said an equally viable BLACK CHOICE was equally important. Deductive reasoning says that whatever other CHOICES there may be and that may be chosen are "EQUALLY" important. Rowe: Then alright Nmaginate, as I have told you before, we are in agreement on this point. I see no reason why we should continue to debate over a point that both of us has made. Nmaginate: My rationale is CHOICES mean CHOICES up to and including one's own as well as others. How much more plainly can...
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Re: It Doesn't Look Like We've Lost Jobs, in fact a gain of 2.6 million MORE jobs under Bush!

Lofton (Guest) ·
Hello Sergeant, Indeed, President George Bush has been a very good President, so much so, that a good possibility exists, that George Bush will be re-elected. Why so many Black people condemn George Bush is beyond me, because he has done nothing to disrespect Black people. Condoleeza Rice has done nothing to betray Black people. From the reaction of quite a few people on this board to disrespect Condoleeza Rice, the reader would think that those who make such statements, picture Condoleeza...
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Re: Black Coalition Announces Gay Marriage Support

ricardomath ·
Here's an article about it from the Washington Post. Gay Blacks Launch Ads To Broaden Support Help Sought to Defeat Same-Sex Marriage Ban By Darryl Fears Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, December 9, 2003; Page A03 A coalition of gay and transgender African Americans announced yesterday that it will use a nationwide advertising campaign to reach out to a group that some say seems to dislike them most: the broader African American community. Representatives of the National Black Justice...
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Re: It Doesn't Look Like We've Lost Jobs, in fact a gain of 2.6 million MORE jobs under Bush!

Lofton (Guest) ·
"Lofton and Sgt who like to sing that "how gud we's gots it" tune." by Kevin41 .......and this is for those who may not know but need to know, the Kevin41's input don't count for anything, because such information is a misrepresentation of the reality of it. Well, Unemployment has always been high in the Black community. It was high during the Clinton, Nixon, LBJ, Reagon, Bush, administrations, etc., etc. Besides, the amount of money given to the many jackleg poverty pimping Black preachers...
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Re: It Doesn't Look Like We've Lost Jobs, in fact a gain of 2.6 million MORE jobs under Bush!

Lofton (Guest) ·
"My bad....I don't know why i keep fighting Lofton's effort to change my thinking from the way "dem black folk" think. I need to realize that the white man is good and in the image of God and that blacks like myself are just ungrateful and unappreciative. as a black man, i should be happy for any job..cuz dey really don't have to GIVE me one in the first place." by Kevin41 ...and I'm not about to change my ways to give respect to individuals who are treasonous, sleazy, incompetent,...
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Re: It Doesn't Look Like We've Lost Jobs, in fact a gain of 2.6 million MORE jobs under Bush!

Lofton (Guest) ·
"*** Now THAT was REALLY easy.......what a cop-out quitter azz mentality............" by Kevin41 ....not really because bogus dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., ....Michael King, the NAACP, etc., are meaningless to me. "The big question is what did bogus Michael King truly contribute" by Michael Lofton and the answer is absolutely nothing. "That statement in itself speaks volumes about you.....so no comment on my part is necessary...at all" Kevin41 ...again I choose my heroes not you. Since you...
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Re: It Doesn't Look Like We've Lost Jobs, in fact a gain of 2.6 million MORE jobs under Bush!

Lofton (Guest) ·
"Read the other post Lofton....I am not about to play that stupid azz "chase lofton's repetitive posts" game. Like I said in the other post....my reality is your reality if you are black as you claim to be......so save the bitching.....get out and do something to rectify the situation since you have your panties in a bunch.....don't just whine and moan.....make a change your damn self........" by Kevin41 ....well I'm controlling the game, while you continue to play that stupid *?*^# chase,...
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Re: Slavery Lives on, Say 76% of Brazilians

Afroman ·
November 20, 2003, was the annual day of Black consciousness (Dia Nacional da Consciência do Negro) in Brazil, and there were official ceremonies throughout the country. It officially commemorates the death and heroism of Zumbi of Palmares , the great leader of the Quilombo (maroon city) in northern Brazil. Here's a link to photos from a march in the city of São Paulo: http://www.midiaindependente.org/pt/green/2003/11/268533.shtml In other places, like São José do Rio Preto in SP state,...
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Re: Negroes Out Of Touch With America On War

Lofton (Guest) ·
"For turning your backs on the people who delivered your mamas and daddies from the colored sections of jim crow.....THEY (mama and daddy) should call you all names that would make negro sound like a great compliment.....you are the scourge of the black race....the sub-human creature that crawls on its belly at the beckon of racist whites.....quit whining and acting like little girls...what I say does not take food from your table....so SHUT UP AND QUIT BITCHING....." by Kevin41 ....I only...
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Re: Man Discovers He's Not Black

ItAintEazy ·
Race Reversal Man Lives as ˜Black' for 50 Years "” Then Finds Out He's Probably Not By Jim Wooten ABCNEWS.com Dec. 28"” Wayne Joseph, the principal of a big suburban high school in southern California, had an unequivocal sense of his black heritage, having written extensively about race in America. But after seeing a TV story last April about a Florida company, DNA Print Genomics, which marketed an ancestry-by-DNA test, he began to wonder exactly how much of him was African, how much wasn't,...
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Re: The Infamous Letter of Willie Lynch

Prophetessofrage ·
Okay, it's a new year and i'm going to put a stop to this madness before it gets anymore out of hand. Djon or mania or whaterver your name is, I scrolled past much of what you said, as it isn't worth it. Let me say this, I don't seek to engage in talk to people who belong in a rubber room and if I did I would belong in a rubber room. That's why I'm going to put a stop to your comments before you show yourself as sick as Melesi. First of all, I have never nor will ever engage in a debate with...
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Re: All-Time Prime Time TV Favorites

Glow ·
These are in no particular order: The Waltons, The Jeffersons, Good Times, Different Strokes, Welcome Back Kotter, Fish, The Barney Miller Show, WKRP in Cincinatti (sp), Facts of Life, BJ & The Bear, Dukes of Hazzard, Dallas, Living Single, Martin, Cheers, Sanford & Son, That's My Mama, What's Happening, Soap, Love Boat, Fantasy Island, All In the Family, 227, Amen and I loved that Planet of the Ape series. ______________________________ ~You're UNIQUE , just like EVERYONE else~
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Re: MLK: Interpreting The Dream

soul_doctor73 ·
The Conclusion: But how much equality has actually resulted? How much of King's Dream can be found in modern standards of society? In 1963, the words of Kings's dream rang out clearly: "I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal'. Fourty years ago 'separate but equal' was the reality of King's time. Segregation meant that black and whites had seperate facilities and...
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Re: MLK: Interpreting The Dream

soul_doctor73 ·
What's in a Name, James? Do you really think this is about some dead guy named Martin Luther King? Further more, if 'color is an inherent diversity', then why are 'you who you say you are', and your kids too? Can you say your kids are 'non-colored' or beyond the mental limitations of skin color? Or does this mean that your kids are really like who *you* say they are, and nothing like they want to be, and your sig is merely fluff? If, as you say, 'you are really who you say you are' then the...
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Re: MLK: Interpreting The Dream

James Wesley Chester ·
[QUOTE]Originally posted by soul_doctor73: What's in a Name, James? Do you really think this is about some dead guy named Martin Luther King? I hope not. Further more, if 'color is an inherent diversity', then why are 'you who you say you are', and your kids too? Can you say your kids are 'non-colored' or beyond the mental limitations of skin color? I could. But I don't. You may miss my point on color. Color applies to what you are. Color does define who you are. My signature is about "who"...
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Re: MLK: Interpreting The Dream

soul_doctor73 ·
Then what was the point of your reply? Cry FREEDOM Freedom Revolution to Establish the Egalitarian Deporment Of Mankind.
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Re: One People/One Destiny

RadioRaheem ·
great quote *********************************************************** 'Sometimes life is obscene' - Black Crowes 'Every single one of us has a devil inside' - INXS Da REAL SHAFT!! WHAT YOU SAY BOUT MY MOMMA??
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Re: President, greeted by protestors, lays wreath at King tomb

EbonyRose ·
This is an update to yesterday's story. Bush's Atlanta visit marked by protests Wreath-laying ceremony part of a two-city swing into South ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) --About 400 protesters lined the street across from the King Center in Atlanta as President Bush laid a wreath at the tomb of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. to commemorate the 75th birthday of slain civil rights leader Thursday. Carrying signs and chanting to rhythms pounded from conga drums, members of the crowd resisted efforts...
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Re: President, greeted by protestors, lays wreath at King tomb

Kevin41 ·
* A different version of the same article Throngs boo Bush at grave of MLK By LOUISE CHU Associated Press ATLANTA -- Kathy Nicholas had planned to pay quiet tribute Thursday at the tomb of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. So did President Bush. The scene was anything but quiet. Nicholas was among about 800 people who booed, chanted and beat drums near the typically placid grave site, angry that Bush was there on what would have been the slain civil rights leader's 75th birthday. The...
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Re: Hmmmmm....MARS or RACIAL EQUALITY.

ricardomath ·
U.S. Eyes Space as Possible Battleground Sun Jan 18, 2:27 PM ET By Jim Wolf WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites)'s plan to expand the exploration of space parallels U.S. efforts to control the heavens for military, economic and strategic gain. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld long has pushed for technology that could be used to attack or defend orbiting satellites as well as a costly program, heavily reliant on space-based sensors, to thwart incoming warheads. Under a...
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Re: Happy Birthday MLK

Prophetessofrage ·
THE NEGRO AND THE CONSTITUTION By Martin L. King Jr Negroes were first brought to America in 1620 when England legalized slavery both in England and the colonies and America; the institution grew and thrived for about 150 years upon the backs of these black men. The empire of King Cotton was built and the southland maintained a status of life and hospitality distinctly its own and not anywhere else. On January 1, 1863 the proclamation emancipating the slaves which had been decreed by...
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Re: Origin of the bible

Melesi ·
kraaaal, Dr. Diop was an historian, not a geneticist. In a way, he could not be, because he lived before the era of precise modern genetic research, having died in 1986. I have read some of Dr., Diop's works, in fact. The first one was that one-volume translation of much of his first and last books, "African Origin of Civilization: Myth or Reality," that I found in one of those half-priced bookstores (it was from the estate of the original owner, I was told) and was published in 1966. Now,...
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Re: Put Martin Luther King Jr. on the $20 bill

ricardomath ·
The Petition to President George W. Bush and the United States Congress Dear President Bush and Leaders of Congress, As citizens of the United States of America we hereby affirm that: Martin Luther King, Jr. was one of the greatest moral leaders of the twentieth century. His vision of compassion, nonviolence and freedom is as necessary today as it was more than four decades ago. King symbolizes the triumph of love over hatred, of nonviolence over violence, and of community values over money...
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Re: Happy Birthday MLK

Prophetessofrage ·
Hi KW I have inserted the link to this oration in the above post. What is the more remarkable about this writing that he won a contest for was how young Martin was when he so eloquently spoke this moving oration. Check out the following facts. "The Negro and the Constitution" [May 1944] Atlanta, Ga. On 13 April 1944, in his junior year at Atlanta's Booker T. Washington High School, King, Jr., won an oratorical contest sponsored by the black Elks. With the runner-up at Washington High, Hiram...
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Re: Chappelle Show Ssn 2!

Huey ·
Chapelle is funny. MARTIN LAWRENCE is buffoonish.
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Re: Chappelle Show Ssn 2!

Bilal4 ·
I agree with Huey. Martin Lawrence is very buffonish. Chapelle is funny but at times he crosses the border on funny and buffonish. Knowledge is Power Ignorance is Oppression
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Re: The Civil Rights Movement is dead and the Hip-Hop Gen X'ers, need a reason.

EbonyRose ·
The disunification of the Black community is indeed mind-boggling. Perhaps it is because we don't have "leaders" today who can bind us together for the cause of progress, such as Martin and Malcolm mangaged to do. I don't really subscribe to that "way back in slave time mentality of separating the house slaves from the field slaves" because we have had too much time in between and too many examples of a different way to accomplish things for me to be able to lay the fact that we have the...
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