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Re: Brown Pride website: Why are they so obssessed with black people?

maverick ·
And it is not on the hip hop board where they mention hip hop as not being black. It is infact on their social issues board.
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Re: Brown Pride website: Why are they so obssessed with black people?

Nmaginate ·
Maverick, What don't you understand about citing a source? And might you have mentioned the Social Issues Board and the actual thread(s) you are concerned with? Frankly, I'm not concerned. I frankly don't get concerned about "KKK" sites per se either. So, again, WHAT'S YOUR POINT?? I recall that being an argument on the African and African-Americans relations thread(s) here. But you were all about African and African-Americans embracing each other in brotherhood despite animosity... right??
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Re: How can we get BET off the air?

Norland ·
Here's an article on "HOW HIP-HOP HOLDS BLACKS BACK" by John H. McWhorter: http://www.rense.com/general41/hip.htm Quite long; interesting read!!
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Re: How can we get BET off the air?

ItAintEazy ·
I already criticized that article for the political pornography for his white patrons that it is. I'll be damned if he gives a f**k about the health of the black community.
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Re: Have we forgotten the Australian Aborigine.

LilFoxyBrwnIntellectual ·
Well one fact remains, is that a lot of Aborigines consider themselves to be black. I was made aware of the Aborigines' existence in a weird from watching MTV's reality show Road Rules Australia, one of the RR participants, a black American man, discussed his emotional attachment to the Aborigines b/c of their plight in Australia and his own disconnect to his majority white group. There is also a movie that was screened at Robert DeNiro's Tribeca Film Festival (I never saw it but read about...
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Re: 8 Mile

Destined ·
ArabianQueen, you are absolutely right about Eminem and the movie. I am an avid hip hop fan, a black woman at an elite white university and a child of the ghetto. One of my best friends is a white boy who freestyles. Do you know why Eminem is so popular? No doubt the man has talent, born and breed. But in my opinion Eminem is popular for the same reason black face was such a hoot: a white man doing a black thing. Eminem takes that exotified and commodified otherness and makes it even more...
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Re: Black Sites That Are Owned by Whites

Anaksanamun ·
Thank you for this very compelling piece. Being at the forefront of the BET boycott against the very negative Black images put up on that network, I am all too familiar with the takeover of the Black marketability by white folks. My question has always been why the need for white folks to target the Black market, specifically, if we are all suppose to be one big ole melting pot with the same goals and objectives being a sovereign nation. No other race of people is used in this manner. And...
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Re: I love the men of the Nation of Islam

Prophetessofrage ·
Persecution follows Revelation By Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan [Editor's note: The following text is excerpted from a March 25, 2001 speech delivered by Minister Louis Farrakhan at Mosque Maryam in Chicago, Illinois.] In The Name of Allah, The Beneficent, The Merciful. In order to be successful in establishing truth, we have to be imbued with the spirit of Allah (God). Otherwise, the persecution that follows revelation will prove to be too much and we will give up the truth to seek...
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Re: WHY ARE BLACK WOMEN SCARING OFF BLACK MEN?

LilFoxyBrwnIntellectual ·
I'm actually recalling a chapter in Bakari Kitwana's book "The Hip Hop Generation: (I can't remember the rest of the title b/c I cheated by reading a lot of it in the bookstore)." He has a chapter on the tension(s) between young black men and women and in that chapter he mentions a phenomena to give a window into how isolated men especially black men feel. To this effect: there are more strip clubs today than a decade ago. And the strip clubs today aren't the strip clubs back then.
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Re: As you can See from my name Brand Clothing, I am not poor

Faheem ·
Charlotte, N.C. - Ja Rule's "Clap Back" blares inside club H20, where Jolae Smith sips champagne near the dance floor. Smith, 22, takes several sips before noticing her champagne bottle has an orange label. She looks confused. The bottle, given to her by a guy in the club, clearly is not her favorite champagne, which has a white or black label. She turns to her friend. "This ain't even Moet," she says. They place their unfinished glasses on a table next to the half-full bottle and walk away.
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Re: Afro-centric Shops Expect Sales Boost Long After Christmas

James Wesley Chester ·
Amazingly, we here in Northeast Pennsylvania now have locally, African American-owned Afro-centric shops, AND "style" shops selling FUBU, and hip-hop merchandise. And they are surviving!! PEACE Jim Chester You are who you say you are. Your children are who you say you are.
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Re: The Civil Rights Movement is dead and the Hip-Hop Gen X'ers, need a reason.

EbonyRose ·
Yes, indeed, it does speak volumes!! It paints a true and accurate picture of the problem with the hip-hop generation!! They do need direction ... have no idea where they are going ... and will never get there because when one doesn't know their past, they won't even be able to recognize their future even when they arrive in it! The present is the most they can ever hope to achieve. And that's kinda sad to me. BLACK by NATURE, PROUD by CHOICE. Free your mind, and the rest will follow. [This...
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Re: Civil Rights vs. Hip Hop

James Wesley Chester ·
"Civil Rights" was about a people and the law that oppressed them. "Hip-Hop" is simply about an attitude. Personal attitude. Little that is not about self will evolve from Hip-Hip. The better comparison would be Hip-Hip and Rock-'n-Roll. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Was Aristide Kidnapped.

DeltaJ ·
I agree he was coerced. With thousands of people coming to chop off his head, I doubt the atmosphere was one of a relaxing trip off to a vacation. He needed to be out of there, and fast. Thats so obvious. He's just mad about the US not propping him up once again, and probably overestimated the support he'd have. I'm sure he can hop on an aircraft and go back anytime he chooses.
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Re: Does the NAACP Need to Improve Its Own Image?

ambiguouslight ·
The NAACP should do a better job coalition building between the many grass root level organizations. Right now the NAACP is too insular and top heavy. Right now we have plenty of "programs" that are working on a local level but rarely are the lessons learned from these programs applied systemically. As such we have a million groups besides the majors that have great intentions but are getting in the way of each other. There is no formal mechanism for combining their resources to achieve...
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Re: Police Secretly Watching Hip-Hop Celebrities In Florida

Netris Zuri-Moja ·
Amazing!! The majority of rap/hip-hop artists convey through their lyrics and videos...the thuggish, drug-dealing, multiple ho-hugging, bling-bling lifestyle, yet constant police surveillance don't sit tight with them?? PLEASE. If these artists want to treated like the average Joe in society, they must change the way they portray themselves as performers. This way, white folk (especially!) will not have the constant, convenient excuse to stereotype us at OUR EXPENSE.
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Re: Police Secretly Watching Hip-Hop Celebrities In Florida

sunnubian ·
_________________________________________ I understand you view, but if the poliec are do not have crystal-meth, herion, estactsy using rock stars under constant surveillance and are sharing "records" and "information" with police departments all over the country on them like they are doing rappers, then they should not be doing rappers like that either. We have to remember that we live in a free nation, not only white people live in a free nation, and that we have constitutional rights to...
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Re: Police Secretly Watching Hip-Hop Celebrities In Florida

Netris Zuri-Moja ·
Sunnubian, Unfortunately, white people STILL do not treat minorities as equal, even though we all bleed the color red when cut. It is not easy for us to live in prestigious neighborhoods, or send our children to the best colleges and/or schools, for both financial and racial reasons. Too many of our drug-dealing brothers are in jail because of the way these bastard legislators designed the laws to keep illegal substances off the streets...rapists and murderers got it goin' on when it comes...
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Re: Changing the Pledge...

DeltaJ ·
How outrageous the police had the nerve to stop you at all! Those damn police. You'd think that was part of their job or something! Damn, thats really tough. What oppression you are suffering. I mean, I know you are a perfect driver, never made a mistake in your life. The racist nerve of those police to even LOOK at your car! We need to start riding buses or something man. Know what I'm going to do after hearing this harsh and dreadful story of your oppression? I'm going to go out right now,...
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Re: Help! There is a Lack of Brothas

naturallyme ·
Rowe, you are correct I am not the type of woman to be interested in a thug. I also agree that my words may seem like I might be unfairly placing: "the fault of not finding adequate companionship on men. Again, I think this is unfair, especially if the woman is not making and has not made a sincere and consistent effort to seek out those that would meet her requirements. Women have tendency to fall into relationships with men that do not meet their standards, then complain later about the...
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

ocatchings ·
I am being a bit paranoid but (IMHO) rappers are a bunch of hypocrits and bandwagon jumpers. They (except for a few) do nothing if there is no "bling bling" involved. Simmons would be great and if he could get some endorsements from some of the other positive rappers and hip-hop artist (with talent) this could be something big. Puff had a big push for voters so this would be a teriffic way for him to keep the momentum for '08. catch
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

MBM ·
James - Simmons did not START anything. And what he was involved in the early stages of had very little to do with the aspects of the culture that are currently viewed as problematic. NY Hip hop in the late 70's / early 80's was, for the most part, about parties and MC's one upping each other. Russell had nothing to do with gangsta and videos hadn't even been invented yet. Here's an article that perhaps can shed some light on him that I read not too long ago - fyi. link
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

Faheem ·
MBM, the only argument you seem to have is that Russell can appeal to the youth, which I think is a bogus position. Russell Simmons has no appeal to the youth, his connection with hip-hop artist and his ability to ask them to do events is what gets the attention of the youth. While the youth is important, the President of the NAACP does not need to appeal to the youth as his reach will not go that far being that each city has a NAACP chapter that should have out reach programs. The New...
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

Vox ·
Q: How come Kweisi Mfume is credited with repairing the naacp's fiscal situation, if his position has nothing to do with that? Would the position change if Simmons is on? As for what I think about Simmons becoming president of the NAACP, I personally don't place any continued importance in them these days, so I don't really care. Far as I'm concerned, he may as well be running for the Baptist Church Ushers Association president. I think arguing about who they pick overstates this group's...
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

MBM ·
I think you miss the point. Michael Eisner, for example, similarly may not be personally attractive to youth, but as CEO of Disney he has children across the globe at his command. If nothing else, I think Simmons has proven the ability to market to AA youth. It seems that the NAACP seeks similar "marketing".
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

MBM ·
Agree, but are you branding an entire culture of music by its most destructive elements? Does all Hip Hop contribute to negativity? Isn't there a big difference between Lil John and Will Smith, for example. Perhaps Simmons has been part and parcel of the destructive aspects of Hip Hop. Honestly I don't know. What I do know is that Run DMC, probably still his most famous "creation", was not a part of what you rightly malign.
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

Vox ·
The big problem, MBM, is that Russell Simmons actively defends the filth element of hip hop. It doesn't matter that there is positive hip hop. The point is, he actually defends the negative hip hop.
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

MBM ·
So Vox, IYO, does the music influence life or does life influence the music? Isn't any form of art merely a mirror on life? It sounds like some of us are blaming rappers for creating the problems that appear in their music. This is a completely different issue than the Simmons/NAACP one, but is blaming artists really fair? Is Russell Simmons (or Suge Knight for that matter) responsible for creating the societal conditions which spawned the aspects of rap that you talk about? I know you...
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

James Wesley Chester ·
Russell Simmons, the godfather of hip-hop, has used street smarts and a platinum Rolodex to create a $300 million conglomerate. Now he's flexing his political muscle. Come inside the frenetic world of a modern entrepreneur.---link I'm sorry. I was hesitant to say he is the 'Father' of hip-hop. Your link does per the quote. I said he was the 'Father' of the rap industry. I think I'm right. As you pointed out, until Simmons came along, the business revolved around one person 'calling out'...
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

Vox ·
Sure any art form is a mirror. If hip hop were confined to lyrics printed on canvas hanging in a museum, then it would reflect, and reflect only. But commercial electronic media, as I'm sure you know, completely change the equation. Success in the media goes to those who know how to use the media to impact people's perceptions and interests. This is an elementary concept, understood since at least 1960, when JFK won the presidency largely because he was more photogenic and looked into the TV...
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

MBM ·
Vox - I don't know the interview you talk about nor the context, but I seriously doubt that anyone believes that anything that communicates doesn't influence. Especially Simmons who, without regard to what you think of his message, influences and influences well. I have heard a number of folks in Hip Hop in interviews resist efforts to criticize their art. Somebody like Larry King asks someone like Simmons or Dash about it - expecting there to be some under the breath admission of complicity...
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

EbonyRose ·
You know, MBM, I understand the argument you are trying to compel here ... and it would be a good one ... but let's consider some facts. First of all, hip hop IS a negative influence on our young. It doesn't matter if music is mirroring life or whatever (and, in not all cases are those rappers even living the life they are rapping about!) because it's not really the part of life that needs to be glamourized!! I mean, education is life, making goals, building dreams, having/loving a family,...
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

Vox ·
MBM, I know what you're saying, if you're saying that the societal conditions existed before hip hop did. You're right, to a point. But let's look at what we're faced with here. California street gangs terrorizing neighborhoods in parts of the country (like mine) where gang culture was mocked, dissed, and clowned until gang-glorifying rappers started becoming video superstars. Then it went from being laughed at as "backward" and "bama" to taking firm root. The social conditions that exist...
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

MBM ·
Great post, thanks. My only point is that if something were communicated in the music that had no relevance to the people that consumed it, then it would not influence behavior. Did you go out and join a gang? Why not? Did suburban white America, en masse, go out and join a gang? Since they are the greatest consumers of the music, how do you explain that they appear to not be influenced in the same way you suggest our kids are? Why do you believe that they do not exhibit the same behaviors...
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

Sweetwuzzy ·
You have me confused thinking your a black women! lol... Thats not an issue. Him justifying the filth in hip-hop is.
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

Vox ·
Pardon the delay, MBM. I knew I needed to devote some distraction-free time if I'm gonna come correct the way I need to in these discussions with you. It's been a busy last couple of days, but here I am. Well, I think you answer your own question in this paragraph. "If something were communicated in the music that had no relevance to the people that consumed it, then it would not influence behavior." That's exactly right. Surely I'm not arguing that the music alone caused the problems thru...
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

Vox ·
Maybe it's 'cause I'm half asleep, but I don't see why we're disagreeing. We're saying the exact same things, but one of us is missing something, because we're expressing DISagreement even though it sounds like we see eye to eye. ... As you know Vox, the people who are drawn to inappropriate images/behavior are attracted to that because there is a serious void in their lives. There are not the appropriate values and morality and leadership and vision and expectations of themselves that would...
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Re: Support the troops....

EbonyRose ·
Kisongo ... let me try and explain a couple of the differences Jazzdog is talking about. First, please try to consider that in Angola and all around Africa and other countries, the government, it's army and police force worked to commit those attrocities against YOU ... their own citizens! While our government and military may go and commit and/or fund or otherwise sponsor crimes against humanity in other countries, we do not experience that here. Army soldiers do not come through our towns...
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

Sweetwuzzy ·
Russell Simmons and Hip Hop Readers Margaret Kimberley The hottest rumor making the rounds is that entertainment and fashion impresario Russell Simmons wants to be the new president of the NAACP. As the story goes, Simmons is under consideration because he will know how to engage young people in political activity. If there is any credence to the rumor, his wealth is surely part of the consideration as well. We are told that any effort to appeal to young black people today isn't possible...
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Re: Is there such thing as "Acting Black"

Vox ·
Come on, Rowe. There is no need to assume that blacks have two choices: hip-hop slang or flavorless docility. I had a conversation recently about this very same pathetic practice. You must have some serious problems, Rowe, if you think the choice for blacks is between "Fuck dat box; we gots to think outside dat muh-fucka, for rizzle," and an actual changing of the voice itself, along with exaggerated attempts to over-enunciate.
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Re: Perverted Trends of Gangster / Criminal Lifestyles are Ravaging Black Culture...

EbonyRose ·
I would answer yes to all of your questions and perceptions. And I would agree that hip-hop is slowly banging nails into our coffins as far as us as a community goes. The media is a viper and a leech. But, it is run by people who have the (more or less absolute) power, who don't really like, let alone care about us, and who's bottom line is greed ... so in essence, they don't really care about anybody but themselves and their bank balances. However, you have those hip-hop entertainers who...
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Re: Perverted Trends of Gangster / Criminal Lifestyles are Ravaging Black Culture...

zodo ·
These so called hip hop movies have damaged the image of African-Americans world-wide. Most people on this planet in foreign countries think that all AA's act and behave like those minstral buffons who call themselves rappers. This is Hollywood's subtle way of telling the world that the AA is subhuman.
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Re: Perverted Trends of Gangster / Criminal Lifestyles are Ravaging Black Culture...

EbonyRose ·
I think that is a most EXCELLENT question, Mr. Chester!! And as such, I would like to present a challenge to all of us who post here (and yes, that includes myself ) to formulate and share what our own personal answer to such a question might be. So, just to play devil's advocate here ... Let's say, IF you had the power, how would you go about the best way to wipe out/re-vamp (or whatever your preference is) the hip-hop culture so that it does not paint such a destructive picture to our...
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Re: Perverted Trends of Gangster / Criminal Lifestyles are Ravaging Black Culture...

EbonyRose ·
You know Sandye ... that was actually going to be one of my solutions! If I had the power to change hip-hop from it's present state, one of the things I think I'd do is to get a record company started that would only put out whatever positive could be extracted from the present negative picture that hip-hop paints and whether or not it would be as successful, at least it would give an alternative. Something we don't have one of now. Also, I think I would try to stage monthly or maybe even...
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Re: Perverted Trends of Gangster / Criminal Lifestyles are Ravaging Black Culture...

Ignorance Personified? ·
See, that's the thing, I can't do it alone. If I tell someone that all black people dont act, think, talk a certain way, but in the course of the next ten minutes they run into 5 copies of the same black person, what do you think's going to happen? I'm a little bit astounded that I haven't heard any assessments of this problem by black leaders in the mainstream media. Probably because they [the media], don't see it as their problem. And also, I do realize that some black people maintain this...
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Re: L.A. Police Revise Car-Shooting Policy

Michael ·
Funny how the Black community, specifically ambulance chasing Attorney Johnny Cochran, Poverty Pimping Danny Bakewell, a barrage of Black elected leaders, etc., are in mass about the killing of a young underage Black male driver by the LAPD, yet in Black on Black criminal activity ambulance chasing Attorney Johnny Cochran, Poverty Pimping Danny Bakewell, the so-called Black elected leadership, the usual community activists are as silent as silent can get, more likely missing in inaction.
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Re: Of course all white people are racist (Article by Joseph Harker)

Oshun Auset ·
This is something that has been on my mind for a while. I grew up on Hip-Hop. I am a product of the old school and Afro-centric 'happy to be nappy' erra(which I will forever miss). When I hear people saying gold chains and baggy pants, thugging and pimping are "our" culture it disturbs me. I consider African culture and all of it's diasporic expressions "our" culture. Now some of that is represented in Hip-Hop...but are we sure we aren't confusing a culture of poverty or vestigaes of the...
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Re: Of course all white people are racist (Article by Joseph Harker)

naturallyme ·
The only people that don't neccessarily approve of our culture is us or should I say U.S. The hiphop culture is global. Taiwanese men are wearing wave caps, Tim's, gold chains, and baggy jeans now. That it, Ciara is the best thing since Beyonce' and 50 cent, and he/she and nuthin but a thug mistress to me. Our culture is the biggest slap in the face to the white man because it is so widely accepted and embraced. Hip Hop is not about baggy jeans, the bling-bling and being a thug or a thug...
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Re: Perverted Trends of Gangster / Criminal Lifestyles are Ravaging Black Culture...

HeruStar ·
O.K. getting back on track As far as changing hip-hop, as much as I'd hate to say it, I wouldn't change one single aspect of it? It's funny how white people can listen to heavy metal, grunge, speed metal, and other forms of "not all that positive" music and not raise a single brow in the community. It's taken for what it is... entertainment. But when rappers say a certain thing or behave a certain way, they're supposed to be representing or misrepresenting the whole race? Why can't our art...
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Re: Perverted Trends of Gangster / Criminal Lifestyles are Ravaging Black Culture...

jazzdog ·
Clearly you don't know your history. Long before there was hip hop and gangsta rap there were white middle class suburbanites raging aganist the evils of heavy metal, in fact you are probably to young to remember a white lady named Anita Bryant who was some hollywood star back in the 60's who made the whole issue of heavy metal music a national issue and she was not the only one. Heavy metal music led kids to satan and devil worship was the cry, just because you haven't seem it or heard...
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