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Re: The Arrogance of Men and The Naivety of Women

RadioRaheem ·
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Re: Are You Afraid To Die?

Empty Purnata ·
Very reasonable expression! Actually about the "saftey net" thing, one of my cousins is also an atheist, but he believes in reincarnation or subconsciousness (he believes that people either either reincarnate or that after death, people remain in a dream-like subconscious state). It's kind of unusual for an atheist to believe in afterlife, but oh well. *shrugs*
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Re: Should Black People...

Empty Purnata ·
CF's attitude towards Black Business dealing with White Business reminds me of Malcolm X's attitude towards White people in a scene of the movie "Malcolm X" with Denzel Washington. Malcolm X (still "Malcolm Little" at the time) was a teenager/young adult working on a train as a waiter having to serve White passengers. He walked around carrying food trays with a big smile on his face calling out what food he was carrying. A White navyman (this was shortly after WWII) asks for some food, and...
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Re: "If the KKK opposes gay marriage, I would ride with them."

Michael ·
"The fact that he has sided with the KKK, who have killed 10,000s of African-Americans over 150 years, is just as much harm as what Jesse Jackson does. BTW, Jesse Jackson is corrupt, but how has he harmed African-Americans?" .....the answer to that is a no brainer. Perhaps you should ask the individuals from our community taken to the cleaners by the jackleg Reverend. ..and you would not have to look hard for the answer. I'm willing to bet Harold Doley, Frederick Jones, Eddie Edwards, and...
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Re: Question for Kresge?

kresge ·
AG, This is not an area of expertise for me, but I would there are folks who do a lot in the area of creation spirituality in Christianity. You might want to do a search on Matthew Fox and Thomas Berry (author of The Dream of the Earth ). This is also a topic dealt with from time to time by the folks who are a part of the Sojourners community in Washington, DC as well as folks associated with the magazine The Other Side in Philadelphia. Finally, I would suggest searches on eco-spirituality,...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

Yemaya ·
MOre questions: Should be even be striving to achieve the American dream? Or should we create our own vision seperate and outside of America? IMO we're already halfway there....
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

MBM ·
That's what I'm asking. What are we moving toward? What should we be dreaming of?
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

umbrarchist ·
The American Dream is a neurotic delusion for stupid White people. You can go to a lot of Black websites and see thread after thread about racism. Economics is more important than racism. I would rather have my home payed for and $200,000 in the bank and live next door to a White racist than live in a Black neighborhood and pay rent to a White man even it the White man was a really nice guy. When do our Black leaders talk about seeing tha ALL BLACK AMERICANS having their homes payed for and...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

HonestBrother ·
I don't believe in the American Dream. I'm with Umbra in that my goal personally is to achieve economic stability. This is * achievable * . The American Dream - to the extent that 'equality' requires acceptance - is not. Any kind of leverage will only come from $$$-power . We can demonstrate how moral, how intellectually brilliant, trustworthy, and capable we are until we're blue in the face. Hardcore whitey will still demand more proof. So that by no means should be the goal.
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

MBM ·
Well, what does the American Dream mean to you? To most I would think it is a good job, a family, a home, a car. What is wrong with that? Aren't you striving for those things? Don't you want MORE money in your bank account rather than LESS?
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

HonestBrother ·
Let's not talk about a family (I've had that discussion elsewhere) - but if all we're talking about is material goods: car, money, home, job, etc. then sure this stuff is attainable for many of us. Yes I desire economic security and believe it can be achieved - at least speaking for myself. But is that all people mean when they talk about the American Dream? Aren't there all sorts of other warm fuzzy connotations that attach to the term?
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

HonestBrother ·
A better question might be What did you mean by the American Dream? Is it simply group access to these material things that's on a par to that of whites? Or is it also about power - cultural and political as well as economic?
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

Rowe ·
Hundred years ago, when Blacks were having their bodies hung from trees, their testicles hacked off, and basic rights taken from them on a daily basis, I'm sure someone had pondered this very same question: "What can Black people realistically expect to achieve in this country?" Now, because of our ancestors' unwaivering faith and sacrifice, everyone everywere is asking themselves: What can't those Black people realistically achieve in this country? Black people have survived the worst...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

HonestBrother ·
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Black Viking ·
You must have been reading my mind Rowe, you took the words right out of my mouth. I've always felt that the American Dream was my dream, your dream, anyone's dream, what ever dream that is. This is the country where it can happen. No matter how bad things get, we always push through because we have a hope for something better. America has a sense of hope that I think is gone in most of the rest of the world. Despite all our short-commings I believe we a blessed.
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

umbrarchist ·
This is a graph of the bankruptcy rate for the United States. Notice on the left that it is not linear, near the bottom it is 100, near the top it is 10,000. This is the American dream in the REAL WORLD. Since Christmas I have emailed 1200 economists about this ignoring consumer depreciation business. I have gotten back 5 responses. One of them said my information was "interesting." They can't solve a grammar school algebra problem for 50 years and it's "interesting." umbrarchist
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

FireFly ·
First off, I think it's important for everyone to assess and reassess their goals frequently. Because life, and our lives don't remain static. So it is a great question to ask of ourselves - what is our version of the American (or Australian) dream? Wanting a house (territory), a car (mobility), and income (security) is fine, however the perception and reality of the so-called American Dream depend entirely on the person dreaming the dream. OK call me a wet blanket but... A lot of people...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

MBM ·
Folks, respectfully, it seems that the conversation is focusing on something that was only a minor detail in the question. Instead of arguing about whether we should embrace some nebulous concept like the American Dream - please answer what we should be focusing on, what we should be dreaming about. Who cares what it is called, what is it that we should aspire to in the first place?
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

MBM ·
I'm not sure what you are asking. Clearly there is a positive correlation between consumer debt and bankruptcy. That that correlation increases exponentially with greater debt is intuitive. What specifically are you asking? "consumer depreciation business"? Are you just noting that consumers are, on average, buying more "stuff" now than before and financing it with consumer debt? Are you inferring that the whole idea of the American Dream is something that is designed to advance consumerism...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

umbrarchist ·
That is an interesting sentence. What is the reality of a dream, any dream? I don't give a damn about any dreams. I am talking about understanding reality and manipulating it into a more desireable future reality. The future is coming and will enentually be the current reality, but what it will be like depends on decisions we make and actions we take today. But our decisions depend on our understanding of current reality. That association between income and security for instance. There are...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

FireFly ·
OK I was talking about the perception of the dream vs the reality. The dreamer asks themself: What is the dream and is the dream achievable? Does the dream translate to a plan or an ideology? Is the plan or ideology actionable? What would it take to achieve that dream? What would 'I' sacrifice to achieve that dream? Is the dream a mirage, an escape, or a fantasy. eg. I dream to become a celebrity. I do take your point about General Motors, but I feel you're nit-picking a tad... for the sake...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

Sandye ·
IMHO, we should be striving to become a unified, self-sufficient African American community. We should encourage and support small individuals who have the potential to be the next Donald Trump or Bill Gates. We should establish more of our own banks, improve our urban "blight", develop business and professional incubators to enable us to decrease our dependency on those who seek our demise rather than our growth. Education is certainly key to self-sufficiency and we should strive to...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
I am proud of Black Commentator. They made it to the second paragraph before they went on the attack. CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER - huh? Many who are involved in what THEY call "Civil Rights circa 2006" want everything BUT character to be the primary factor in JUDGEMENT. We have no "civil rights movement" today. We have an IDEOLOGICALLY based agenda" that seeks to use countervailing forces of racial categorization to achieve a certain result. Of course as long as YOU agree with their methods...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Seriously, you would have to tell me when an actual process of a Dialogue even began, in earnest. And that's the thing. In my thinking, an earnest attempt would require dealing with that one thing that caused us (you and I) some trouble earlier - WHITE SUPREMACY. My view, when talking about Race RELATIONS, there has to be a real conversations about RELATIONSHIPS. Power Relationships. In short, there can be no dialogue when a Slave - Master Relationship, a "Superior-to-Subordinate"...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

humblelynn ·
I think what we should be striving for and what we continue to strive for is reclaiming our communities and finding ways to make sure our youths aren't statistics. I don't believe that the truth myth of the American Dream exist for most Americans, and it has never existed for African Americans. Black Millionaires still cannot conquer the sickness of white supremacy, and as long as white supremacy exist, the American Dream cannot be and has never been a reality. As opposed to chasing after...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Kweli4Real ·
In a recent departmental "Team-Building" exercise, we were asked to articulate our "Civil Rights Dream." Everyone gave the pat "I dream of the day when all people are treated fairly, with dignity and respect" or "I dream for the day when there is no longer a need for our department." And, everyone's head was bobbing, "Yep, Yep." Well, at least until they got to me, the only Black male in the division [well, there's one other, but he racially identifies with his white italian mother rather...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

James Wesley Chester ·
I almost hate to add to this already clear issue. Almost. Without simple cynicism, there is nothing to be gained by engaging in discussion to 'educate' European-Americans, or European America. Both are 'consciously ignorant', as in invincibly ignorant. We do not owe such an effort to either African America, or America herself. That ignorance, of the European American, is a cultured, and treasured perspective that successfully resisted all efforts to effect change. That 'promised land' is not...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Well, ART_GURL, with JWC weighing in as EVERYONE (other than me) *lol*... It would seem that, in all your questions, with all the answers you're "looking" for, with all the answers you've gotten... Well, it's clear that you're just not listening. So, AG? Are you listening? You have been given information, rather freely I might add, about "what is needed for equal rights, equal opportunities..." But somehow, because of some pre-set idea you know you have ("two sides")... you're just not...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
EVEN MORE!! http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml More responses to "Do Black Men Still Want Us?" Spirited comments about romantic options and worries Letters to the Editor Published October 2, 2004 Where is the love? A magazine asks whether black men still desire black women. Eight men offer their answers. Black women speak out Earlier this week, African-American men answered women's question "Do Black Men Still Want Us?' Now women discuss their romantic...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
My take on Part One:...in bold When elementary school teacher Patti Hairston picked up Monday's edition of the St. Petersburg Times, she braced herself. "I knew there would be negative things said about black women by black men," she said. very interesting, esp. since the writer of the original article was merely seeking the 'other side' of the Essence article. Lori Chung, 28, associate TV news producer, single, Brooklyn Personally, I don't feel the love from black men to black women and...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

FireFly ·
HB... for a lot of women (me included) these men are the cream of the crop! Dream man/men, in fact. Point is, whether they are doctors or artists, a lot of time the booty 'talks' to those men way before (or instead of) any of those similar talents in women. Flip the script, and ask yourself are any men actively seeking the same - women writers, artists, painters, etc, or do they expect booty + beauty + brain + bank balance ALL-in-one? .
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
This is why guys like me wind up with white women.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Black Viking ·
AG, these are not talents, they're careers or occupations, or callings. That's the giant problem me and the other guys on this thread are having with this perception of a double standard. Women are looking for the different occupations listed throughout this thread. Their not looking for talent. But as I and others have said before, If that's what you want then that's what you get. No, men and women are not seeking the same thing! That's why this whole idea of a double standard is silly. A...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
DING, DING, DING - We have another winner. I've expressed this in other threads. Everybody can't get the instant dream life (add perfect man/woman & stir ). Yes, it happens, but it's not the norm. Did anybody really read that Ruby Dee quote: To me, it's about knowing that things will never be perfect. It's about finding someone you're willing to love & argue with. It's about allowing yourself & your partner to evolve. It's not about picking a ready made package off the shelf.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
I will respectfully disagree with portions of your post. To suggest men only view things in the short term is suspect. To further assert that looks rule over all is suspect. Many of us said that core values & personality carry the day. The physical is the initial attractor, but not the permanent attractor. What that means is a less attractive women with personality has to work a little harder to get a guy to stick around to notice those core values. The same applies for men. Is that...
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Re: B'docks, MLK and Triflin' N!@@a RHETORIC!

Huey ·
the "Return of the King" episode was among the best animated episodes of the Boondocks. It was written, I supposed, as a dream of Huey Freeman's if MLK survived the assassination attempt.
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Re: B'docks, MLK and Triflin' N!@@a RHETORIC!

Nmaginate ·
Thanks for the background... but there are plenty of people out there having "Huey's DREAM" invoking MLK and the whole of our heritage of struggle in much the same, dare I say, Triflin' Way.
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Re: Edna Griffin: The Rosa Parks of Iowa

ricardomath ·
A comrade remembers Griffin's fight for equality By ROB BORSELLINO REGISTER COLUMNIST Originally published on 2/10/2000 Word came down Tuesday that Edna Griffin was dead, and that got John Bibbs thinking. His mind wandered back to the summer of '48. He was 22, four years out of Tech High School and just back from the Navy, an experience he remembers as highly racist. "I was called nigger and everything else. I got five days in the brig for speaking up about that." Back in Des Moines, Bibbs...
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

Kevin41 ·
I wonder if CF is his son or little brother? I wonder if my spam alert disconnected the program that we thought was self-hater#1..I haven't seen a post od his...and do not get me wrong...I do not miss his azz........at all...... read this bullschit: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The (Blue) State Of The Union Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: February 2, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern...
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Omega4ul ·
Freedom of Speech is one thing but DISRESPECT is another. I dont think the image deserves the riots and killings but I do think the images are insensitive and disrespectful. Many americans do not understand why this is a big deal. Black americans should be more understanding. If the Danish Press publish a cartoon of a black slave hanging from a tree with black 'urban thugs' pointing guns at him, with a caption that read "Bush's Dream come true".... I think my first respose would be to riot.
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Black Viking ·
I agree. But I don't think they understand that violence inspires more violence. Shocking really, considering current global events. There are far more constructive ways of dealing with disrespect. As I said in an earlier post, if African-Americans blew something up or burned something down everytime we were disrespected there would be nothing left of America by now. I hope so... for their sake as well as ours.
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Re: For the Sistas of AA.org

HonestBrother ·
I love Coretta Scott King who was forever beautiful, gracious, and just as visionary as her famous husband: Martin Luther King , who was studying for his doctorate in theology at Boston University, had told a mutual friend he was looking for a wife. The friend gave him Coretta Scott's phone number but when he came calling she was not impressed. "I saw this green car coming up the street and this short man," she said in an interview. "He leaned over to open the door, and when I got in the car...
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Re: Untitled--Just Disappointed and Upset

Rowe ·
It's comforting to know that I'm not alone in this. I can tell that you've had some emotional experiences with this issue as well. I'm just hoping that she'll come out of it eventually. She claims that she only wants to "build a relationship God," and that "God has personally spoken to her." As a big sister, I've always felt a need to protect my sister, because she was the youngest of four sisters. I feel as if I have failed my mission to protect her from whatever has overtaken her mind. In...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

toussaint ·
It really takes a true spin artist to take an unprecedented decrease in poverty and turn it into a bad thing. Unbelievable. It's sad that folks who sit here with all kinds of comforts are opposed to others striving for those same things. And suggesting that these folks would be better off with less choices... in a barter society? lol... now I remember why I got bored with this board a while back. Every rich nation started off poor like the nations I mentioned. They all had to develop and go...
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

FireFly ·
Lots to respond to in your previous response to me. I'd prefer to break it down into chunks so I can get through it, and also not be overwhelmed by a wall of words. OK? while 'logical' minds could shake their heads in agreement with the above statement, I disagree. [I'll have to go back and study where I may have categorized you - aside from your being christian?] IF we toss the labels aside, them maybe 'we' begin to understand things. Labels and cliches become faded and jaded and not so...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

toussaint ·
Thanks, The_Congo. I realize that I could give all the evidence in the world to some folks in here, and it won't matter a lick. So it aint even worth gettin riled up about. Case and point - how they cry about poverty all the time, and when freer economies bring people out of poverty and give them options they couldn't dream of previously, they simply disregard it. They aren't concerned with the people no longer being impoverished. They're concerned with hating free markets. They're concerned...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Empty Purnata ·
What do you mean by "freer" economies? Back that rhetoric up with substance. By "Free" do you mean deregulated? (Trickle Down/Voodoo Economics) How many people in other countries have been miraculously "lifted out of poverty" by this allegedly "free" market? According to THE FACTS, free market Western economies have huge GDPs and GNPs, but low average GNIs and HDIs. Market socialist economies have smaller GNPs but larger average GNIs and HDIs. Developing countries that are part of the "free...
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Re: You Negroes Quit Whining, look how Oprah lives...which proves everything is fine

Nmaginate ·
It's the same rhetoric ignorant Black and White people (willed or innocently ignorant) use to try to deal with the Cognitive Dissonance or whatever the hell their malfunction is. Ummm... Excuse me Mr. Elders, but MLK never stopped "complaining about the poor conditions under which minorities lived." He's like the clueless and rationalizing Whites who didn't realize Dr. King had these types of things to say at those "inconvenient" and "impolite" moments: Elder needs to study King and give a...
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Re: Are Sports & Music the Only Options for Black Children?

Vox ·
I'm not sure I see a problem with this. The problem as I see it is that schools and parents need to make sure they're preparing the kids for the world, regardless of what their dream profession is. If twice the proportion of black kids want to be athletes or entertainers as the proportion of white kids, and it turns out that there is double the proportion of successful black athletes and entertainers, then I see no disparity problem. The problem that exists lies in society's options for...
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Re: Are Sports & Music the Only Options for Black Children?

Lamp ·
I agree with you on this.. Nothing wrong with having a backup plan. I'm not trying to kill anyone's dream.. But we have to be realistic with our kids and say that is fine and dandy but what are you going to do if it does not work out?? So I agree with what I think you are saying
 
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