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Re: Recipes... Part 2

HonestBrother ·
Moroccan Chicken baked with Orange-spiced harissa sauce 1/4 cup Harissa sauce (see Art Girl's post) 1/2 cup Orange juice 1 tb Grated orange peel 1/4 cup Cider vinegar 2 tb Vegetable oil 1 ts Ground cinnamon 2 ts sugar (optional) 3 lb Chicken Combine all the ingredients to make a smooth paste, thinning with orange juice as needed. Separate chicken breast from skin (try not to cut or tear skin). Spread sauce between skin and chicken (you can do this with other pieces as well) and spread the...
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Re: Afrocentric versus Eurocentric

Fine ·
Yes. ------------------- Dusty Elbow: We "can" very well talk about Americas slavery and there is alot to talk about: Connecticut Military Law, 1784--forbade blacks from serving in military First Naturalization Law, 1790--congress declared US a white nation Federal Militia Law, 1792--only whites could enlists in peacetime militia Fugitive Slave Law, 1793--protected slaveholders rights, discouraged blacks from running away Virginia Migration Law, 1793--forbade free blacks from entering that...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"Nah Isome...those days of giving little mikey attention have fizzled down to nothing......what the hell...i made a decent effort up front to communicate so to hell with it......i read some of the old posts Ricardo chronicled and I was really too damn diplomatic in the first place...just takes a minute to figure it out when you trying to give a fool the benefit of the doubt. Remember when I said so in the thread about New Years resolutions? Well as you can see today is the 7th.....once I get...
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Re: Recipes... Part 2

HonestBrother ·
Correction: Moroccan Chicken baked with Orange-spiced harissa sauce 1/4 cup Harissa sauce (see Art Girl's post) 1/2 cup Orange juice 1 tb Grated orange peel 1/4 cup Cider vinegar 2 tb Vegetable oil 1 ts Ground cinnamon 2 ts sugar (optional) 3 lb Chicken Combine all the ingredients to make a smooth paste, thinning with orange juice as needed. Separate chicken breast from skin (try not to cut or tear skin). Spread sauce between skin and chicken (you can do this with other pieces as well) and...
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Re: The Effect of Public Schools on Our Kids

Rowe ·
Good points.
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Re: Tolerance of Intolerance?

kresge ·
HB, Is there a particular situation or circumstance which you have in mind with this question? As a former college chaplain in a multifaith context, it was my responsibility to both promote a free exchange of ideas while simultaneously protecting the rights of all within an academic community. This meant that any religious group had the right to gather, publicize their events, beliefs, etc. What was not allowed was coercize or aggressive evangelism? Thus, if you were a Christian group who...
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Re: Tolerance of Intolerance?

HonestBrother ·
Kresge, that's a good question. I suppose the immediate context is Melesi's accusation that I don't give his posts a fair reading. But to be fair, it goes far beyond that. As a single non-Christian, who has just moved to a new town, living in the Bible belt, in a place where the first thing people ask you when they meet you is "Where do you go to church?", in a place where even in the online dating community the women all declare "You can't love me if you can't love Jesus", I frankly find...
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Re: BLACK PEOPLE IN THE BRITISH ISLES

msprettygirl ·
I see he ain't got nothing to say to that, he want to ask for a challenge and then not respond-jasmine was right he's just a troll
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Nikcara ·
I am a Christian, I am heterosexual, I think gays should be allowed to marry, I think women have the right of choice and affirmative action is desparately needed because children are still being left behind. Law in the USA is not about morality it is about power and money. It was law that enslaved my ancestors using the Christian Bible, it was law that separated the races under Jim Crow using the Christian Bible , it was law that cause the police to sick dogs on citizens because they were...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
nikcara, You have more than one point in your post. I will try to address them, but I hope you can forgive me if I miss one or two. Do we have differing definitions of "Christian"? What is a Christian to you? Yes, Christians do differ on issues, but they differ usually because they've started from different points of view. They have different conclusions about the world to begin with, thus they have certain differences in their worldviews, which is part of the point that I made originally.
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Re: Tolerance of Intolerance?

kresge ·
I am grieved to hear about your experience. I spent 12 years in academia as a college/university chaplain. Before my theological training, however, I obtained a B.S. in physics and mathematics, and an M.A. in physics. So I think that I might be able to relate to your situation from several positions. With respect to the AA community, I think that science and mathematics, little priority seems to be given to these disciplines. There seems to be much more of a connection with arts associated...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Empty Purnata ·
Alright, here's the reality of the land: America was founded on Englightenment Principles (the ideas in our Constitution are borrowed from the French Constitution and inspired by Englightenment Age philosophy on liberty, freedom and justice). There is a radical Seperation of Church and State. Church cannot regulate religious beliefs as laws, and the State cannot regulate religious beliefs. This is mutally beneficial, it provides a safe, bias-free (in theory) system that does not make...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
How about the law which gives Congress the right to authorize the President to declare war?
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Re: Should Black People...

AudioGuy ·
BV, Wouldn't "comfort" come under "the pursuit of happiness"?
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Re: Should Black People...

AudioGuy ·
In a word (or 2), HELL NO!! I was just playing "devil's advocate". An argument that I have heard made by white folks to justify their behavior is the "pursuit of happiness". *We have a right (as guaranteed by the constitution) to feel comfortable in our neighborhoods, and we don't feel with "them" here.*
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Thats okay CF...there are many who teach me things on this board, but being that I am fairly academically astute my damn self..I have to separate bullschit from actual learning material...but there is a definite core of educated people on this board who possess progressive thought. I have learned many things in areas of finance, technology, theology, medicine and other areas of academic endeavor. There is a big difference between what those people tell me and those who come in here daily to...
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Re: Christian Psychologist Admits Manic-Depression Amongst Pentecostals

Melesi ·
EP, Actually, I'm not surprised. The sample is very likely self-selecting, but it is important for all that. Certain personality types are attracted to fundamentalism and to pentecostalism, and to find bipolar and manic-depression there figures. This doesn't mean that we have the right to sneer at them (I'm not saying that you are doing so, though it would be difficult to suppress a self-satisfied snicker), for they really need education as well as help. Given the etiology of both disorders,...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
EP, Yes, John Locke and the idea of universal rights is very European, though they did not spring full-grown from the head of the French Revolution, especially that part of it that so quickly degenerated into the Reign of Terror and was well criticized by such as Edmund Burke, a supporter of much of the American philosophy. But this couldn't have arisen without the ground of the Christian faith. It's no wonder that the Magna Carta was forced on King John in England. It was a first step...
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Re: Should Black People...

Black Viking ·
If so, the technically it would be "the pursuit of comfort". The right to pursue happiness doesn't guarantee that your going to catch it. Ultimately I agree with powerflower on this one. If my presence makes someone uncomfortable, they have a "right" to go somewhere else.
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Re: Sago Mine Explosion - Another Bushco Production?

Empty Purnata ·
Kanye West claimed during Hurricane Katrina that "George Bush doesn't care about Black people." Kanye West was half-right. Bush doesn't care about Black people, but he doesn't care about non-rich White either, that's what alot of people seem to be missing. In fact, the whole Republican Party is geared towards rich-White business-owners, managers and the wealthy, elite capital class. They only pander to working-class Whites becuase they know working-class Whites make up a major voting bloc of...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"You can take your small cracks at what I think about my abilities and all that ....but for years and years, you haven't been around to watch me burn the midnight oil.... so fuck you ....because I have told you stories of people that I knew were semi-illiterate that became scientists and engineers......people probably say that bullschit to them....but none of them were around to watch those individuals, struggle and put forth efforts towards their self-improvement that most others in their...
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Re: Athletes and Entertainers that's who!!

James Wesley Chester ·
You are right of course. But who is propogating this idolitry? It certainly is not the practitioners of these professions. I say it Madison Avenue. So where is the fix? That's the implicit challenge of the thread. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Nick Cannon "I'm addicted to white women"

msprettygirl ·
huey i think you are right she probably is a black latina. powerflower-no bobbie did not say that huh? he did seem like an idiot to me for some reason now i know why.
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Re: What Are Women Really Attracted To?

bigddouble ·
High social status has nothing to do love IMO. Someone that craves a person's status before considering getting involved is not concerned with love . You called it right - it's superficial . Which is as far away from love as you can get.
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Re: How to Date A Single Dad

Frenchy ·
I'm not saying that two people know if they will be getting married after a few months. I said that they should know whether or not the relationship is serious by that point, and if it is, introductions, concessions, and compromises need to be made. I don't think the teenage girl is too young to understand either (especially since she's about at the age where she has her own interest in the opposite sex). She might not want to let go of the foul behavior, but she knows what time it is. I...
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Re: What Are Women Really Attracted To?

Max ·
ddouble said: High social status has nothing to do love IMO. Someone that craves a person's status before considering getting involved is not concerned with love. You called it right - it's superficial. Which is as far away from love as you can get. ------------------------------------------------ I understand what you're saying, and, yes, I guess if a person gives little thought to a potential-mate's intrinsic qualities then they are cheating themselves out of a fullfilling & meaningful...
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Re: "If the KKK opposes gay marriage, I would ride with them."

Kevin41 ·
Well Frenchy, If you insist...maybe i'll just go out on a crusade against their azzes and then you'll be satisified with your take on my positions with them. Will that satisfy your need to tell me what I really think about gays when I said specifically I really do not give a damn if they suceed or fail and I would not assist or inhibit them? Next time, just don't ask me....do like CF and tell me what I think....and then schit will be the way you see it and not how I said I embraced it.......
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Re: Recipes... Part 2

FireFly ·
You can buy jars of this commerically, but it is fun to make and worth the fiddle... Moroccan Preserved Lemons Makes 10 10 thin skinned lemons 1 1/2 cups rock salt 1 litre (32 fl oz) boiling water juice of 1 lemon 8 cardamon pods 2 small red chillies, optional 2 bay leaves, optional olive oil, to cover Scrub the lemons well and soak in wate for about 3 days, changing the water daily. This disperese the gas and acids contained in the fruit). Remove from the water and cut four pockets end to...
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Re: Why second chances don't work.

Black Viking ·
This is probably the part that most people skip when they trying to go backwards. They never really figured out for themselves why the break-up happened. I think most relationships have a "straw that broke the camels back". When we think about why the relationship ended, we only think about the last straw. We don't think about the pile that came before that. Then, if we can talk outselves into believing that the straw was a small thing (It was just/only...add anything), then we try again,...
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Re: Why do souls come to Earth?

Melesi ·
EP, Evangelicals, I think, don't need to prove themselves loyal to God. You might have a more Catholic theology there. Where Catholics and Orthodox pray about "being made worthy to be heard in the presence of your divine majesty," and such, evangelicals would never choose to pray like that. The Reformation idea of "sola fides, sola gratia, sola scriptura" ("by faith alone, by grace alone, by Scripture alone") is very strong. It's not always thought through among us, logic not always being...
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Re: The Wall Street Project: The Continuing Conversation for Parity

Guest ·
PARITY? That's funny - when I listen to Bloomberg or CNBC each morning on the ride to work I hear about "financial justification", "shareholder value" and "bottom line profits". It seems to me that Sir Jesse Jackson is attempting to apply to Wall street some concepts that don't necessarily fall into their way of doing business - and that is GREEN. Very soon few workers will need to worry about their "Pensions". An increasing number of their employers will be switching to 401k programs. The...
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Re: The Wall Street Project: The Continuing Conversation for Parity

MBM ·
You are showing either you naivete or bias CF. White males hire white males. Period. In fact, there would be no affirmative action in employment if white males could be trusted not to break the law and hire without regard to race and gender. Because they are unable to do so, there must be a law in place to "force" them to do what is right as opposed to what they want to do - which is (like Bush) hire their boys.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Affirmative Action: Who Benefits? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contents A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Answers to Frequently Asked Questions About Affirmative Action Where Do We Go From Here? Bibliography -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Few social policy issues have served as a better gauge of racial and ethnic divisions among the American...
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Re: The Bridge: Black Men & White Women (article)

HonestBrother ·
Issues? like? In my experience you're right on the mark.
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Re: Bush Selects Alito for Supreme Court

Kweli4Real ·
In following the confirmation hearings, I found one [actually several] of Alito's comments, "Curious." He was asked about something that he wrote arguing that the constitution is silent on the "right to privacy." [And, it is] The question [and answer] was framed in terms of the "right to privacy" announced in the Rowe decision. Alito was asked, with respect to his earlier comments, how he would approach the "right to privacy" question, if raised. Alito's response was that he would " approach...
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Re: Bush, 'No Child Left Behind', and National Testing

Kevin41 ·
That goes right along with what I stated is a big problem with education..is that we teach kids thing to learn but not learning concepts such as comprehension and retention........
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
He could command if only he wanted?: Sheesh! How tragic! So let me ask: Why didn't the Christians of the 19th century follow St. Paul's example? That's what you advocate right? Do as the Bible commends? So why didn't 19th century Christians follow that example??: wish the slaves well, bid the masters regard their slaves as brothers, and remark that they could command if they wished it but wait instead for it to come from the heart???
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
You're right. I could avoid the illness by undergoing a frontal lobotomy. No thanks. I think I'll pass.....
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
Repeat:
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
Once Again. Maybe you'll answer this time:
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
Well, that's interesting: You wrote, ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I don't believe it should or shouldn't talk any way in particular. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ But that's been your whole argument: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Let's put it this way: St. Paul didn't have problems strongly condemning a lot of other things. NOW DID HE? What in the Bible forbids the owning of slaves? He could command if only he wanted But he NEVER says it anywhere ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You demand...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
You haven't been listening. William Wilberforce and those many English Christians who followed him did follow Paul's example. The Christians in the American North did follow Paul's example. It was the basis for their activism for abolition. The "Christians" you really are talking about are the Christians in the American South, a minority of Christians, by the way. Many more fought for slavery's end than defended it pre-war. The reason teh Southeners defended slavery was because of the pride...
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Re: Bush, 'No Child Left Behind', and National Testing

Kweli4Real ·
But I would argue that the real travesty is that children are not being encouraged/taught to "connect the dots", to draw conclusions or extrapolate results from current data. I remember back in the day, my public school friends were asked on tests questions like, "On what date did the Spanish Armada sail?" This is not much different from the rote learning required under NCLB; Whereas, exams at my prep-school asked, "In 1588, the Spanish launched a naval attack on Endland. Discuss the likely...
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Re: Now Speaking of an Endless Loop Cycle of Poverty, Heavy Dependence on Social Welfare

Empty Purnata ·
Strictly speaking, Lofton doesn't "know" anything, he's a Chatterbot: http://africanamerica.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/64170254/m/4881060163 He's a computer algorithmic program. I have a feeling that he was devised by Vanguard News Network or Free Republic. He seems to be a Chatterbot designed to spout non-stop right-wing, pro-White, anti-Black rhetoric.
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Re: Million Dollar Baby

FireFly ·
If he hasn't already, Spike Lee should write a film FOR Morgan Freeman. Some kind of bio-story... not about anyone necessarily famous, but about one man's journey. A non-Hollywood type screen adaptation of the true story/novel Life Is Good immediately comes to mind. Just the right actor, just the right age. Do it, Spike!
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Re: Black Men and the "Criminality Gene"

Black Viking ·
This is the biggest and most foul pile of BS ever to come out of a criminal justice system. Before this garbage, crime statistics were the biggest. People like to use crime statistics to prove that blacks are pre-disposed towards crime. But crime statistics are NOT records of crimes, the ARE records of convictions. That's all, nothing else. The only thing that crime statistics prove is who's going to prison. It doesn't even come close to a record of crimes being committed. There a millions...
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Re: The Black Commentator vs. The Wall Street Journal

Faheem ·
This has to be the best op-ed I have read all year, albeit it is only the 13th of January. Brother Bruce articulates all that was running through my mind as I was reading white folk commenting about Black folk on a white Blog this morning in regards to a report that was published in Seattle's paper yesterday about the difference in length and how often Black students are suspended and disciplined in School in relations to white students. The garbage that was coming out of these white folk...
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Re: The Black Commentator vs. The Wall Street Journal

Nmaginate ·
And, since highlighted, African-American views then are, in Taranto's view, illegitimate or rather can only be legitimated when and if White people (a substantial minority of them, at least) hold the same views/perspectives or otherwise agree with so-called "appeals" from Black Folk. Racist Arrogance or no, it is the very imposition of and/or insistence on WHITE SUPREMACY. White Views RULE. They are the norm, the standard bearer - The Measuring Stick. Or so it is implied. I really don't...
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Re: AN UNEVEN HAND: THE DISCIPLINE GAP IN SEATTLE SCHOOLS

Nmaginate ·
In the other thread, you referenced a White Blog with a bunch of BS written about the study. Though this was an attempt to be intelligent as opposed to just speaking in the talking point Language of Right vs. Left STUPIDITY, the following quote from one of the respondants shows exactly how bankrupt their objections are: Somehow, it didn't occur to our friend that, by the same consideration/comparison token, there is no way to make a case against the racial discrimination claim (as he and his...
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Re: The Black Commentator vs. The Wall Street Journal

Nmaginate ·
FULL OF SHIT. WHITE SHIT at that. What the hell are you talking about? What the hell is "The National Standard of Living", WHITE BOY?? And how does that BULLSHIT relate to the reality of things here in America? Note: First, you will have to quantify what the "National Standard of Living (N-SoL)" is. Once you do that, with respect to whatever you're referencing (i.e. whatever it is that makes you call the SoL "national"), you will have to demonstrate how that is what is going on. Don't PUNK...
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