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Re: "Django Unchained"

Kocolicious ·
@ Dissident You know my brotha...I've been debating all day online and on the job and I suddenly realized that there is something WRONG with me. And then it hit me. My demised son's birthday is approaching. And that is WHY I've been sooooo aggressive lately. I wanna apologize to you. Although I stand by what I said. I'm usually not as in your face aggressive unless I'm pissed off. And you didn't deserve the way I came at you. You're a respectful brotha....and I apologize for displacing my...
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Dissident ·
Originally Posted by Kocolicious: @ Dissident You know my brotha...I've been debating all day online and on the job and I suddenly realized that there is something WRONG with me. And then it hit me. My demised son's birthday is approaching. And that is WHY I've been sooooo aggressive lately. I wanna apologize to you. Although I stand by what I said. I'm usually not as in your face aggressive unless I'm pissed off. And you didn't deserve the way I came at you. You're a respectful...
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Raptor ·
"Broomhilda" is a german name, yet something tells me quinten had to know that the 'broom' part of that name would lend to a different connotation in the english speaking world, yet cleverly used that name then try to sugarcoat it with giving the german background. In short he was trying to be slick.
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Re: "Django Unchained"

sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by Raptor: "Broomhilda" is a german name, yet something tells me quinten had to know that the 'broom' part of that name would lend to a different connotation in the english speaking world, yet cleverly used that name then try to sugarcoat it with giving the german background. In short he was trying to be slick. I don't think that is probably true. The German fairy tale of Brun hilde (Americans say Broom hilda) is as popular as Cinderella to much of the world, maybe not to...
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Kocolicious ·
@Dissident Thank you my brotha. Your words meant a lot to me. My deepest condolences to you and your family on your loss. It's rough when you lose someone close. I couldn't breathe for a couple of days thinking of my son. But! I'm better now. I know we'll probably be debating tomorrow about somethin -that's what family do. But until then, here's a BIG hug.
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Xeon ·
I saw the movie about two weeks ago and I must say, it lived up to the Quentin Tarantino brand; excessive graphic violence, luridly sadistic with individuals driven by the need to inflict extreme violence and death on their victims and his person obsession with the "N" word. This is the expected under laying bedrock of his movies (e.g., Pulp Fiction, Inglourious Basterds, Kill Bill, Reservoir Dogs, et al). The film is in two parts: the first half is a mock Western; the second is a...
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Re: Eritreans Race to Save 8-Year-Old Girl Held Hostage by Arab Traffickers in Sinai

Yemaya ·
I hope that they use the money to buy guns and murder those MFers. That is all.
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Norland ·
If these fellas pictured could speak the "queens" English, they'd fit right in with many of the so-called "blacks" living in America. I wish everyone in the world could have DNA tests, so that this racism crap could be extinguished completely. Bunches of folks ain't who they think they are.
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Yemaya ·
Now can we have the open and honest discussion about how Islam was used by Arabs like Christianity was used by Europeans to enslave Africans??
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Kocolicious ·
The discussion will be hard cuz you have black muslims that reject the idea that their Arabic brothers enslaved them. It is a form of mygnostic brotherhood. And until we can point the finger DIRECTLY in the faces of the Arabs and 'say you started this and you should end this....now," there will be no conversations. Cuz even TODAY Arabs think they are BETTER than Africans. Which is a joke cuz many upon many Arabs have black blood running through their veins this very day. So I personally is...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Kocolicious ·
Oh they also invented this light skin dark skin racism. Massa didn't invent it....it was already in place when he came over in Africa. Guess who taught him? But!
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: Now can we have the open and honest discussion about how Islam was used by Arabs like Christianity was used by Europeans to enslave Africans?? Not with a frame that has been shown over and over to be false. *lets keep it 100, there are people who only pretend to give a sh*t about this topic because they want to argue that Islam is just another product of white people that should be treated just like Christianity. The moment its shown that there are very REAL...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

sunnubian ·
But that still does not justify the fact that Arabs have never stopped enslaving Black Africans or the fact that slavery is still legal in places like Mauritania and other northern African countries that have been invaded and taken over by Arabs. It is far too obvious that some Black Africans are conditioned to invade, murder and sell into slavery, other Africans(Blacks) under the guise of acceptance , [i.e., 'tolerance' ] into the Islamic faith, where in reality, they are merely being used...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: But that still does not justify the fact that Arabs have never stopped enslaving Black Africans or the fact that slavery is still legal in places like Mauritania and other northern African countries that have been invaded and taken over by Arabs. It is far too obvious that some Black Africans are conditioned to invade, murder and sell into slavery, other Africans(Blacks) under the guise of acceptance , [i.e., 'tolerance' ] into the Islamic faith, where in...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Yemaya ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: Originally Posted by Yemaya: Now can we have the open and honest discussion about how Islam was used by Arabs like Christianity was used by Europeans to enslave Africans?? Not with a frame that has been shown over and over to be false. *lets keep it 100, there are people who only pretend to give a sh*t about this topic because they want to argue that Islam is just another product of white people that should be treated just like Christianity. The moment...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Yemaya ·
Also Dr. Clarke discussed this at length back in the late 1980's early 1990s.
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: This isn't a matter of "justification" any more that Post Tramutic Slave Disorder is "excuse making". The issue is the discussion of history and the historical record and not a revised history that with the agenda of making Islam "anti African". Beyond that, I'll ask the same question I've asked in other threads. How do you define an "Arab"? Who and what are "Arab"? The question isn't if African Islamic can be discussed. It is, and has been for some...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: Also Dr. Clarke discussed this at length back in the late 1980's early 1990s. Could you find any of that information to post or post a reference?
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Yemaya ·
I mean I had to Google this, but alright here's your posting.
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Yemaya ·
Now who is bold enough to attempt to discredit Dr. Clarke's work?
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: Also Dr. Clarke discussed this at length back in the late 1980's early 1990s. Dr. Clarke's material is important to this discussion, but we cannot treat his material as if it is above the same scrutiny as others or as if his findings are not subject to "mistakes". There is lengthy analysis concerning the ethnography of Arabs that is all but ignored while using Dr. Clarke's material to justify not actually engaging the data or subject he covered. I cannot say what...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
And this is why there's a huge problem with discussing this. Despite posting material that deals DIRECTLY with the subject in as much detail as you can hope to have, there persist the idea that "Black Muslims just dont wanna deal with it". To be blunt....its pure Bullshit. There's no excuse making for any part of wrong doing in the name of Islam any more than there is on the part of any other African culture. Bottom line is, if where going to discuss it, you cant just make stuff up that has...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Yemaya ·
Well bottom line is I don't mess with any of it as it's all a turn off for me, Christianity, Judaism, Islam or as I affectionately call them the Big 3. No one wants to have a critical or counter analysis of what they believe or think. But Ok, whatever.
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: Well bottom line is I don't mess with any of it as it's all a turn off for me, Christianity, Judaism, Islam or as I affectionately call them the Big 3. No one wants to have a critical or counter analysis of what they believe or think. But Ok, whatever. Not true. You can offer whatever you wish, but as with any subject there has to be integrity on the matter. You (in general) can't just make stuff because you don't like "The Big 3" nor can you attribute things to...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Kocolicious ·
Well...folks need to read "The Destruction of Black Civilizations" by Chancellor Williams to get a little glimpse of what the Arabs did to Africans and their mentality on how the veiw "people" in general. But as long as blackfolks STAY loyal to the FIRST massa[Arabs}, there can NEVER be a discussion. As long as the patriarchal "gaze" in terms of our history with them and Europeans stay focused on pretending SLAVERY NEVER "initially" happened with the Arabs.....well it doesn't take a genius...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
Our brother Chancellor Williams incorrectly identified Arabs as "white". This has been demonstrated time and again. I encourage view the entire lecture, however the 34:00 mark centers on the central claim. Islam and Africa: A Critical Analysis of Dr Chancellor Williams' 'The Destruction of Black Civilization' ( Howard University, Washington DC, on February 13, 2010. )
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: And this is why there's a huge problem with discussing this. Despite posting material that deals DIRECTLY with the subject in as much detail as you can hope to have, there persist the idea that "Black Muslims just dont wanna deal with it". To be blunt....its pure Bullshit. There's no excuse making for any part of wrong doing in the name of Islam any more than there is on the part of any other African culture. Bottom line is, if where going to discuss it,...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: What is it that you think I have made up? There is nothing in my post that I 'made up', although one part of it is my opinion, and I stated that much. But the issue at hand is the fact that African/Black people are being singled out to be enslaved in Arab controlled countries, as they have been for centuries now, and there is nothing about that system of enslavement that shows or points to it not being a racially caste system any less than system of slavery...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Kocolicious ·
I can't control what Williams depict Arab as. That's his opinion. It may be because Arabs identifies themselves as nonblack.....I dunno. But! That's not my fight and I am NOT gonna be distracted by this blindside attempt to ignore the obvious. And the obvious is what I'VE been talking about. And what I've been talking about is the fact that the Arab culture invaded Africa and enslaved the people. No? And are the ones who created this color chart of acceptance. No? And the ones who have...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
incorrect. incorrect. incorrect.
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Kocolicious ·
That's YOUR opinion....my brotha. And what it is NOT is fact or truth. So you keep YOUR opinion and I will definitely hold on to the TRUTH. And when you're ready to acknowledge it.....it will be RIGHT here waiting for ya. Cuz unlike opinions TRUTH never changes. But!
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

EbonyRose ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: Well bottom line is I don't mess with any of it as it's all a turn off for me, Christianity, Judaism, Islam or as I affectionately call them the Big 3. No one wants to have a critical or counter analysis of what they believe or think. But Ok, whatever. Amen to that, Yemaya!! Except ... I would change that to: "No one WILL have ... " such a discussion when it comes to their religion or religious belief. I've yet to see it happen. Most just can't/won't do it..
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by Kocolicious: That's YOUR opinion....my brotha. And what it is NOT is fact or truth. So you keep YOUR opinion and I will definitely hold on to the TRUTH. And when you're ready to acknowledge it.....it will be RIGHT here waiting for ya. Cuz unlike opinions TRUTH never changes. But! You're making my point. You invoked the name of Chancellor Williams when you thought it supported your position. Once its pointed out that it doesn't, and that our brother was mistaken in is...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Kocolicious ·
First I brought Williams in the fold for the purpose of "documented history" of what happened to Africans." I never mentioned race-that's not what I was going for. Let be clear there are a lot of things in his book I take issue with-but he's breaks it down in terms of what happened to blacks and how their civilizations was destroyed very clear. Secondly....if Arabs in fact considered themselves "Black" or "African" well that's news to me in terms of the single-handed participation in slavery...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Norland ·
We're all human beings. What we have with Africans is skin color/hair tightly coiled war. No one can stand Africans because of this trait. We're easy to be bullied and ganged upon because we can't blend in and lie about what we are. Other people terrorize Africans because of fear, believing they're less than human and because Africans do not fight back. We don't have the weaponry and we're humanity's people to take their frustrations and display so-called "better than them/prettier than...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Kocolicious ·
I'm glad you brought this up...even though it's a little off topic....but! If America allows same sex marriage...LOOK OUT yall. We will regress back into the Roman and Greeks days where the male-love was acceptable and female-male love was frown upon and only acknowledged for the sole purpose of procreation. Women will slowly disappear from the public view [maybe in three-four generations in the future]...and pederasty and pedophila will resurface...and America will be JUST like the third...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
Not a problem. Are you suggesting that his is the only qualified "documentation" of history? Is his work exempt from analysis? Repeated declaration of something doesn't make it true. We can disagree. That's fine with me. However, we've been down this path before where you make and repeat the popular myth's associated with Arab without ever actually discussing who and what is an Arab.
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Kocolicious ·
First I brought Williams in the fold for the purpose of "documented history" of what happened to Africans." Not a problem. Are you suggesting that his is the only qualified "documentation" of history? Nope! I say what I mean and mean what I say. Never indicated that "he" was the only source. Is his work exempt from analysis? Nope! However neither is your analysis exempt. In fact, nobody is exempt from analogy....including me. Repeated declaration of something doesn't make it true. Yep!
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

EbonyRose ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: ER-if you notice this is (particular) discussion is a discussion of history and not "religion". But ... I HIGHLY doubt you'd be having this particular "discussion" - and discussing it in manner you are if it were NOT, as least in part, about Islam (the religion) ... and ONLY about "the history of Arabs." The 'religion' (you're trying not to talk) about has been mentioned too many times for it not to be an issue.
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by EbonyRose: Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: ER-if you notice this is (particular) discussion is a discussion of history and not "religion". But ... I HIGHLY doubt you'd be having this particular "discussion" - and discussing it in manner you are if it were NOT, as least in part, about Islam (the religion) ... and ONLY about "the history of Arabs." The 'religion' (you're trying not to talk) about has been mentioned too many times for it not to be an issue. Im...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

EbonyRose ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: Originally Posted by EbonyRose: Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: ER-if you notice this is (particular) discussion is a discussion of history and not "religion". But ... I HIGHLY doubt you'd be having this particular "discussion" - and discussing it in manner you are if it were NOT, as least in part, about Islam (the religion) ... and ONLY about "the history of Arabs." The 'religion' (you're trying not to talk) about has been mentioned too many times...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

sunnubian ·
Via Jeddah Mind Trick: Burnt Skin (A post on racism overseas) 0 Bougie Black Girl April 30, 2012 Colorism , Race BBG – Angelica is an African American woman from Detroit (the “D&rdquo but an Arizona exile who writes about her experiences of living in Saudi Arabia. Angelica describes herself as a Mama, Wife, Activist, Educator, and Artist. I will include a wonderful person. This was originally posted at JeddahMindTrick.com . Please enjoy her piece on racism in Saudi Arabia. Burnt Skin by...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Kocolicious ·
Thank you my sista for posting this. I saw a documentary on Filipino workers who go aboard to work in Saudi Arabia...sometimes finding it difficult to return in their homeland. Many times the women especially are expected to have sexual intercourse with the male members in the families and a lotta of the filipino women have had to escape and go underground in an effort to go back to their homeland. And I'm not gonna say what occurs with the Filipino men who go there for work. But this is one...
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Re: How Slavery Led To Modern Capitalism

Muhammad Cipher ·
Clearly there are people in academia who have read SRBJ vol 2 and possibly read or even reread vol 1. Its strangely interesting to see more and more work done in the academy that treats subjects in both vols as uncredited inspirations for inquiry. Perhaps people should again reconsider why the works of Karl Marx is considered (albeit less so today) off limits to read or discuss openly.
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Re: How Slavery Led To Modern Capitalism

EarthAndSky ·
This video is interesting. It focuses on the ship, Tryal, carrying very courageous and admirable African slaves. The Empire of Necessity: Slavery, Freedom, and Deception in the New Worl d
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Re: How Slavery Led To Modern Capitalism

Muhammad Cipher ·
Was going to post this the other day. I don't think people understand how much work study and interest there is in the effect of the slave trade.
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Re: BRUTALITY AND SADISM OF SLAVERY

sunnubian ·
"Warrior's of Black Consciousness" Never Again! ‪#‎ slavery‬ Slave Bells. This device was secured around the neck and ensured that the slaves would NOT be able to escape. Horrific, but nowhere near the worse. -M.R — with Barack Obama and 8 others at The White House . <form action="/ajax/ufi/modify.php" class="commentable_item hidden_add_comment collapsed_comments" id="u_jsonp_8_1p" method="post"><input name="clp" type="hidden"...
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Re: BRUTALITY AND SADISM OF SLAVERY

Kocolicious ·
This may explain why some whitefolks are obsessed with bondage and sadoism, In some way it can be perceived as an innate guilt factor festering-which is SICK cuz they are KNOWN to get off sexually when wearing these vices. It can also be deemed psychologically twisted that many whitefolks get off being tied like slaves and whipped with their faces muffled [mostly men] as they endure the pain of hard slashes from whips. I just don't understand WHY anyone would subject themselves to mimic...
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Re: BRUTALITY AND SADISM OF SLAVERY

Xumbrarchist ·
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLwUA3CHumk Xum
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Re: BRUTALITY AND SADISM OF SLAVERY

sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by Xumbrarchist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLwUA3CHumk Xum The same goes for Black Muslims and Black Jews. Black "Christians" will be ready to fight you like a seasoned gang-banger if you point any of this out to them, or they will have already practiced what to say to evade the Truth in those words.
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