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Re: "Django Unchained"

Yemaya ·
And we are more worried about a piece of fiction and not the reality of how our people live today.
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Re: "Django Unchained"

RadioRaheem ·
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64vUzZ9VfgY
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Kocolicious ·
Sista Norland wrote: Slavery's not over. The same atrocities that happened during slavery happens in the Prison Industrial Complex. Rape, torture, executions, etc., etc. We complain about these "white" people day-after-day-after-day. Yet, here we are calling ourselves "Americans". Watch a couple hours of Tru-TV and ask yourselves, "Is this what I want to be?" Had slavery begun in Japan or China, would we be calling ourselves African-Japanese or African-Chinese? Please, the European is mental...
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Re: "Django Unchained"

sunnubian ·
Legendary Activist, Comedian Dick Gregory On ‘Django Unchained’: Spike Lee Is A Punk And A Thug [VIDEO] Jan 15, 2013 51 By NewsOne Staff Legendary social activist, comedian, and author Dick Gregory weighed in on the controversial Quentin Tarantino film “Django Unchained,” and he made some controversial comments about film director Spike Lee . In an interview posted to YouTube.com, Gregory says that the movie spoke to him in ways that no film had in all his years on earth. He then calls out...
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Re: "Django Unchained"

sunnubian ·
I'm in agreement with Dick Gregory regarding Spike Lee, of all people to have the nerve to criticize what is "disrespectful to his (our) ancestors". In my opinion, Spike Lee has only made three movies that were not insulting to African Americans, and that was Malcolm X and Miracle at St. Anna, and Mo' Better Blues, (I'm not counting his documentaries in the comparison).
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Kocolicious ·
You see...I'm not the ONLY one who sees SPIKE for what he truly is. Brotha Dick. Always tellin it like it "T.I." is. Now that's a brotha who really KNOWS what's going on cuz he LIVED IT and is able to tell ya about it. So I suggest yall read his book "No More Lies." Now that's a book that'll really tell ya what happened between the cowboys and the indians i.e, Native Americans. I agree Spile is a thug fool. Girl gotta to have it....was film disrespectful not only to black women....but! To...
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Dissident ·
The majority of movies produced and directed by blacks does nothing but disrespect and insult blacks. That premise is busted. So why is Spike Lee the lone villain? Did Spike say something unfavorable about ‘the lord and Savior’ in the White House? It's disappointing to see Dick Gregory go off on a unsubstantiated tirade like this. And it’s even more disturbing to see how easily black people can be manipulated over fictional shit. Django is a freaking movie. A remake. The original movie...
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Kocolicious ·
Let's talk about black exploitation movies, shall we? These are the movies deemed "super ni**ers" whether the star is a man or woman. Starting with the "Soul of Nigger Charlie" filmed in the 70s to "Call me Mr. Tibbs." Let's not forget Shaft. Now we can argue all day long about what European is more racist against blackfolks. My opinion is ALL Europeans are especially the Irish and the Germans....but! That's another topic. But truth is from Super Fly to Sweet Sweet Sweetback at the time a...
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Re: "Django Unchained"

EbonyRose ·
'Django Unchained' producers order end to film's action figures By Eric Kelsey and Alex Dobuzinskis, Reuters LOS ANGELES -- The producers of Quentin Tarantino's "Django Unchained" on Friday ordered a halt to the production of action figures based on the Oscar-nominated slavery movie after criticism that they were offensive to African-Americans. amazon.com via NECA The eight-inch dolls, which were intended for people 17 and older, included gun-slinging freed slave Django, his wife and cruel,...
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Kocolicious ·
I just have ONE beef:
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Kocolicious ·
this thing is acting up again. Anyway....why is Kerry's character named Broomhilda? Was is the significance behind that? Is that a name of a witch? What were they thinking? What is the psychological reasoning behind it? Just wondering! But!
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Re: "Django Unchained"

sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by Kocolicious: this thing is acting up again. Anyway....why is Kerry's character named Broomhilda? Was is the significance behind that? Is that a name of a witch? What were they thinking? What is the psychological reasoning behind it? Just wondering! But! Broomhilder is the name of a German princess who is condemned and imprisoned in a tower that is guarded by a fire breathing dragon and surrounded by a ring of fire and the only way she can be rescued is if the [hero] can...
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Kocolicious ·
And that hero is dJango? Right? Okay, Got it. I ALWAYS hated that name. In my day calling someone Broomhilda was calling her a "witch" or some bad woman. Thanks my sista. Now I know.
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Yemaya ·
We're still talking about Spike Lee and Dick Gregory AND Django... Let those who have an ear HEAR.
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Re: "Django Unchained"

sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: We're still talking about Spike Lee and Dick Gregory AND Django... Let those who have an ear HEAR. Come on Yemaya, you're not even going to let us watch a movie and critique it?
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Fine ·
Wall Street is the modern version....as not one of its employees has had to work hard to build was already in laid by labor of slavery..."Black Labor, White Wealth" and "Powernomics" by Dr. Claud Anderson.
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Yemaya ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: Originally Posted by Yemaya: We're still talking about Spike Lee and Dick Gregory AND Django... Let those who have an ear HEAR. Come on Yemaya, you're not even going to let us watch a movie and critique it? Is is really worth ALL this conversation? But okay, I give. Django = Shango. I'll give you all your moment to ponder on it... shame the white boy knows more about US than we do.
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Kocolicious ·
I've learned through the years that having discussion regarding passionate issues....keeps it from fesering from within. As we have seen in history in way of riots, civil unrest etc. So it's gooooood to talk about it. Black folks in general don't like to talk about things that bothers them....and what happens with our children, many do not have the skills to process it and when it builds...it explodes most times into violence. That's why I believe in psychology/psychiatry tools for our...
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Kocolicious ·
@Dissident: Yes Spike did do something....WRONG. He contributed to the DISRESPECT of black women in his films. If he were soooooo passionate about the black experience, he would have JOINED Greogory as contemporary to combat the negative images of black women and men ON screen as a young producer, But did he? Nawl. And may I say that there is a subliminal arrogance of self-entitlement in the young generation of blackfolks. They smear their ignorance on screen and video[by disrespecting black...
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Re: "Django Unchained"

sunnubian ·
" . . . shame the white boy knows more about US than we do. " **************************************************************** Now, that is a real shame. If 90% of the us really knew our own history, our true history, that alone would unify most of us and only unification is going to save the Black race. Until that happens the Black race will continue to exist lingering at the mercy and whims of Whites.
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Yemaya ·
whoosh....another idea/comment/point goes over another head.
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Yemaya ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: " . . . shame the white boy knows more about US than we do. " **************************************************************** Now, that is a real shame. If 90% of the us really knew our own history, our true history, that alone would unify most of us and only unification is going to save the Black race. Until that happens the Black race will continue to exist lingering at the mercy and whims of Whites. Indeed Sunnubian.
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Kocolicious ·
@ Dissident You know my brotha...I've been debating all day online and on the job and I suddenly realized that there is something WRONG with me. And then it hit me. My demised son's birthday is approaching. And that is WHY I've been sooooo aggressive lately. I wanna apologize to you. Although I stand by what I said. I'm usually not as in your face aggressive unless I'm pissed off. And you didn't deserve the way I came at you. You're a respectful brotha....and I apologize for displacing my...
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Dissident ·
Originally Posted by Kocolicious: @ Dissident You know my brotha...I've been debating all day online and on the job and I suddenly realized that there is something WRONG with me. And then it hit me. My demised son's birthday is approaching. And that is WHY I've been sooooo aggressive lately. I wanna apologize to you. Although I stand by what I said. I'm usually not as in your face aggressive unless I'm pissed off. And you didn't deserve the way I came at you. You're a respectful...
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Raptor ·
"Broomhilda" is a german name, yet something tells me quinten had to know that the 'broom' part of that name would lend to a different connotation in the english speaking world, yet cleverly used that name then try to sugarcoat it with giving the german background. In short he was trying to be slick.
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sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by Raptor: "Broomhilda" is a german name, yet something tells me quinten had to know that the 'broom' part of that name would lend to a different connotation in the english speaking world, yet cleverly used that name then try to sugarcoat it with giving the german background. In short he was trying to be slick. I don't think that is probably true. The German fairy tale of Brun hilde (Americans say Broom hilda) is as popular as Cinderella to much of the world, maybe not to...
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Kocolicious ·
@Dissident Thank you my brotha. Your words meant a lot to me. My deepest condolences to you and your family on your loss. It's rough when you lose someone close. I couldn't breathe for a couple of days thinking of my son. But! I'm better now. I know we'll probably be debating tomorrow about somethin -that's what family do. But until then, here's a BIG hug.
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Re: "Django Unchained"

Xeon ·
I saw the movie about two weeks ago and I must say, it lived up to the Quentin Tarantino brand; excessive graphic violence, luridly sadistic with individuals driven by the need to inflict extreme violence and death on their victims and his person obsession with the "N" word. This is the expected under laying bedrock of his movies (e.g., Pulp Fiction, Inglourious Basterds, Kill Bill, Reservoir Dogs, et al). The film is in two parts: the first half is a mock Western; the second is a...
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Re: Military Strategist, Slavery Opponent Queen Nzinga Died On This Day In 1663

Kocolicious ·
Isn't that something? Portguese had hold on Angola until 1975!!! There are so many stories regarding her sitting on the backs on her servants. But the real story was that the whites was appauled that SHE thought so much of herself and didn't wanna sit on the floor because she was ROYALTY. You see massa NEVER wanted to give us respect even when we DESERVED it....I mean we deserve it anyway...but! Royalty? The way European slobber over the Royal families and these neanderthals couldn't...
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Re: Eritreans Race to Save 8-Year-Old Girl Held Hostage by Arab Traffickers in Sinai

Yemaya ·
I hope that they use the money to buy guns and murder those MFers. That is all.
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Norland ·
If these fellas pictured could speak the "queens" English, they'd fit right in with many of the so-called "blacks" living in America. I wish everyone in the world could have DNA tests, so that this racism crap could be extinguished completely. Bunches of folks ain't who they think they are.
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Yemaya ·
Now can we have the open and honest discussion about how Islam was used by Arabs like Christianity was used by Europeans to enslave Africans??
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Kocolicious ·
The discussion will be hard cuz you have black muslims that reject the idea that their Arabic brothers enslaved them. It is a form of mygnostic brotherhood. And until we can point the finger DIRECTLY in the faces of the Arabs and 'say you started this and you should end this....now," there will be no conversations. Cuz even TODAY Arabs think they are BETTER than Africans. Which is a joke cuz many upon many Arabs have black blood running through their veins this very day. So I personally is...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Kocolicious ·
Oh they also invented this light skin dark skin racism. Massa didn't invent it....it was already in place when he came over in Africa. Guess who taught him? But!
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: Now can we have the open and honest discussion about how Islam was used by Arabs like Christianity was used by Europeans to enslave Africans?? Not with a frame that has been shown over and over to be false. *lets keep it 100, there are people who only pretend to give a sh*t about this topic because they want to argue that Islam is just another product of white people that should be treated just like Christianity. The moment its shown that there are very REAL...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

sunnubian ·
But that still does not justify the fact that Arabs have never stopped enslaving Black Africans or the fact that slavery is still legal in places like Mauritania and other northern African countries that have been invaded and taken over by Arabs. It is far too obvious that some Black Africans are conditioned to invade, murder and sell into slavery, other Africans(Blacks) under the guise of acceptance , [i.e., 'tolerance' ] into the Islamic faith, where in reality, they are merely being used...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: But that still does not justify the fact that Arabs have never stopped enslaving Black Africans or the fact that slavery is still legal in places like Mauritania and other northern African countries that have been invaded and taken over by Arabs. It is far too obvious that some Black Africans are conditioned to invade, murder and sell into slavery, other Africans(Blacks) under the guise of acceptance , [i.e., 'tolerance' ] into the Islamic faith, where in...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Yemaya ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: Originally Posted by Yemaya: Now can we have the open and honest discussion about how Islam was used by Arabs like Christianity was used by Europeans to enslave Africans?? Not with a frame that has been shown over and over to be false. *lets keep it 100, there are people who only pretend to give a sh*t about this topic because they want to argue that Islam is just another product of white people that should be treated just like Christianity. The moment...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Yemaya ·
Also Dr. Clarke discussed this at length back in the late 1980's early 1990s.
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: This isn't a matter of "justification" any more that Post Tramutic Slave Disorder is "excuse making". The issue is the discussion of history and the historical record and not a revised history that with the agenda of making Islam "anti African". Beyond that, I'll ask the same question I've asked in other threads. How do you define an "Arab"? Who and what are "Arab"? The question isn't if African Islamic can be discussed. It is, and has been for some...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: Also Dr. Clarke discussed this at length back in the late 1980's early 1990s. Could you find any of that information to post or post a reference?
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Yemaya ·
I mean I had to Google this, but alright here's your posting.
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Yemaya ·
Now who is bold enough to attempt to discredit Dr. Clarke's work?
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: Also Dr. Clarke discussed this at length back in the late 1980's early 1990s. Dr. Clarke's material is important to this discussion, but we cannot treat his material as if it is above the same scrutiny as others or as if his findings are not subject to "mistakes". There is lengthy analysis concerning the ethnography of Arabs that is all but ignored while using Dr. Clarke's material to justify not actually engaging the data or subject he covered. I cannot say what...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
And this is why there's a huge problem with discussing this. Despite posting material that deals DIRECTLY with the subject in as much detail as you can hope to have, there persist the idea that "Black Muslims just dont wanna deal with it". To be blunt....its pure Bullshit. There's no excuse making for any part of wrong doing in the name of Islam any more than there is on the part of any other African culture. Bottom line is, if where going to discuss it, you cant just make stuff up that has...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Yemaya ·
Well bottom line is I don't mess with any of it as it's all a turn off for me, Christianity, Judaism, Islam or as I affectionately call them the Big 3. No one wants to have a critical or counter analysis of what they believe or think. But Ok, whatever.
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: Well bottom line is I don't mess with any of it as it's all a turn off for me, Christianity, Judaism, Islam or as I affectionately call them the Big 3. No one wants to have a critical or counter analysis of what they believe or think. But Ok, whatever. Not true. You can offer whatever you wish, but as with any subject there has to be integrity on the matter. You (in general) can't just make stuff because you don't like "The Big 3" nor can you attribute things to...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Kocolicious ·
Well...folks need to read "The Destruction of Black Civilizations" by Chancellor Williams to get a little glimpse of what the Arabs did to Africans and their mentality on how the veiw "people" in general. But as long as blackfolks STAY loyal to the FIRST massa[Arabs}, there can NEVER be a discussion. As long as the patriarchal "gaze" in terms of our history with them and Europeans stay focused on pretending SLAVERY NEVER "initially" happened with the Arabs.....well it doesn't take a genius...
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

Muhammad Cipher ·
Our brother Chancellor Williams incorrectly identified Arabs as "white". This has been demonstrated time and again. I encourage view the entire lecture, however the 34:00 mark centers on the central claim. Islam and Africa: A Critical Analysis of Dr Chancellor Williams' 'The Destruction of Black Civilization' ( Howard University, Washington DC, on February 13, 2010. )
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Re: Mauritania: An Arab Love Affair With Slavery

sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: And this is why there's a huge problem with discussing this. Despite posting material that deals DIRECTLY with the subject in as much detail as you can hope to have, there persist the idea that "Black Muslims just dont wanna deal with it". To be blunt....its pure Bullshit. There's no excuse making for any part of wrong doing in the name of Islam any more than there is on the part of any other African culture. Bottom line is, if where going to discuss it,...
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