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Re: BLACK PEOPLE IN THE BRITISH ISLES

FireFly ·
Ignatius Sancho (1729-1780) (excerpts only) From African Slave to Composer & Author Born on a Slave Ship Near Guinea, West Africa Ignatius Sancho was one of the few Africans in 18th-century England to become a member of the middle class, highly literate and an amateur musician and composer. Birth Ignatius Sancho was born in 1729 on a British slave ship near Guinea, West Africa, enroute to the Spanish West Indies. He was orphaned in infancy. Ignatius Sancho: An African Man of Letters is a...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
HB, Yes, the northern abolitionist movement included people who were not Christians, but that really is beside the point. Wiliam Wilberforce in England was a Christian who almost a hundred years before the American Civil War spearheaded the British abolitionist movement. Christians here were encouraged by his success and worked very hard to abolish slavery all through the country. It's what led to our Civil War, you'll remember. They worked with many who were not Christian, but they worked...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
I had already written and you just came back by saying (essentially) that "if you read closely" Paul encourages Philemon to treat Onesimus as a brother - while sending Onesimus back to share brotherly love with his owner . I.e. you only elaborated on what I already said. You didn't contradict it one bit. So why should waste my time responding when there was nothing new to respond to? Your reply was lame. That's not a dodge. That's my opinion. Agree or disagree. I get so sick and tired of...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
Your illness could be avoided if you wished. Yo uapparently do not do so. Note well what Paul said, that he could order Philemon to release Onesimus if he wanted to. He would rather have it come from Philemon's own heart and love for Onesimus. He's being quite pastoral here as well as apostolic. The command still hovers in the background, the unchanging scene against which this action is played. Yes, if you'd only read closely.
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
Let's put it this way: St. Paul didn't have problems strongly condemning a lot of other things. NOW DID HE?
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
The problem isn't that he doesn't say it. The problem is that he doesn't say it in the way you want him to. Paul lived 2000 years ago in an entirely different culture and had as his objective the survival of believers in Christ. You cannot demand that he speak as a twenty-first century American (or even as a nineteenth-century Northerner). That's quite an imposition of your beliefs on someone who cannot defend or explain himself.
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
Come now, HB, those words can be used against you and be quite accurate. They shoudn't be, though, because they're not an argument, only a questioning of motives and asserting conclusions that you do not and cannot know. I'm reading nothing into the text. Look at the words. They are there. Once more: +++++++++++++++++++++++++ 8Therefore, although in Christ I could be bold and order you to do what you ought to do, 9yet I appeal to you on the basis of love. I then, as Paul"”an old man and now...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
I don't believe it should or shouldn't talk any way in particular. I have * no * belief * whatsoever * in the authority of this book - which was written for sheep herders by sheepherders millenia ago. And no. I will not waste any more of my time rereading this drivel. My only point was that it doesn't say what YOU want it to say.
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
I've had all the experience I need. Anyone who needs to go running to an ancient book, fine-parsing every single line, to tell them what to think about any given issue is a simpleton. I find that distasteful. If the shoe fits wear it.
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
Well, that's interesting: You wrote, ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I don't believe it should or shouldn't talk any way in particular. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ But that's been your whole argument: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Let's put it this way: St. Paul didn't have problems strongly condemning a lot of other things. NOW DID HE? What in the Bible forbids the owning of slaves? He could command if only he wanted But he NEVER says it anywhere ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You demand...
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Re: Panjea live - HOT!

FireFly ·
What others say...and another pic... not great quality but hey I was busy dancing. "What a strange confluence of forces this Californian is. He seems to be a Western white man channelling music from deep in the heart of Africa and the Caribbean diaspora. Unlike most Western people who borrow from African traditions, such as Paul Simon, Mick Fleetwood and Ginger Baker, Berry didn't go on a snatch-and-grab mission. He went to southern Africa in 1990, stayed for more than a decade, married a...
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Re: What 'white' muso's get you groovin'?

ronin10 ·
Johnny Cash, Ultraspank, Madonna, Paul Oakenfold, Moby, Duran Duran
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Re: Unholy Strictures?

thechosen ·
When you speak of "unholy scriptures," the scriptures which come to mind are the scriptures added to the "New Testament" by Paul who in Islam is known as the "Great Deciever."
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Re: Conservative Idiots

Kevin41 ·
Poison Justice Stevens, Coulter jokes LITTLE ROCK, Arkansas (AP) -- Conservative commentator Ann Coulter, speaking at a traditionally black college, joked that Justice John Paul Stevens should be poisoned. Coulter had told the Philander Smith College audience Thursday that more conservative justices were needed on the Supreme Court to change the current law on abortion. Stevens is one of the court's most liberal members. "We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme...
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Re: Conservative Idiots

HonestBrother ·
Too bad somebody didn't put rat poison in Ann Coulter's cappuchino.... And that wasn't a joke.
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Re: Unholy Strictures?

HonestBrother ·
The title is "Unholy Stric tures". I think the reference is to the fact that the author of this article believes the requirement that a religious scripture be read as one would read a science book or a encyclopedia to be contrary to an older more authentic tradition of understanding religious texts. The requirement is an "unholy stricture" on how these texts are to be understood and appreciated.
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Re: Unholy Strictures?

kresge ·
Yep, and that applies to all sacred text, whether it be the Hebrew Bible, the Greek New Testament, the Quran, the Gita, or Vedas.
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Re: Executives' Pensions Are the Deal of a Lifetime

Kweli4Real ·
In another thread, CF cited to spouse abuse in Africa and eluded to oppression in some Arab states. He then asked for the Capitalistic equivalent. Well, CF, here ya go:
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
Valley Traditional High School is in the middle of a racial controversy. A teacher used a racial epithet towards a student. The word is only six letters long but the impact is far reaching. We do want to warn you that some of the language in this story is strong and may offend some people, but since this story is not just about the "n" word it's also about the pronunciation, we've decided to leave it in the story for you to decide. Murphy: "What did he say to you specifically?" Chavers: "Sit...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

Empty Purnata ·
LOLZ! And he also had the nerve to write this: So, that means read ALL the ancients books on Jesus, including the Lost Gospels, gnostic Gospesls and "apocryphal/pseudiographical" books too, right? Melesi would probably say, "No, those books are false and present a false Jesus. The Four Gospels and the Pauline Epistlesgive us a very clear picture of Christ......" In other words, he's not concerned about Jesus, he's concerned about defending doctrine. Making an A PRIORI assumption that the...
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Re: Bryant Gumbel done pissed a few white folk off...

Negrological ·
when bryant said those comments it took back to when paul mooney (as Negrodamus) said, "white people like wayne brady because he makes bryant gumble look like malcolm x."
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Noah The African ·
Here is a real work example of zero sum Toussiant. Who can forget the neocons' claim that under their leadership America creates its own reality? Remember the neocons' Iraq reality--a "cakewalk" war? After three years of combat, thousands of casualties, and cost estimated at over $1 trillion, real reality must still compete with the White House spin machine. One might think that the Iraq experience would restore sober judgement to policymakers. Alas, neocon reality has spread everywhere. It...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

toussaint ·
It really takes a true spin artist to take an unprecedented decrease in poverty and turn it into a bad thing. Unbelievable. It's sad that folks who sit here with all kinds of comforts are opposed to others striving for those same things. And suggesting that these folks would be better off with less choices... in a barter society? lol... now I remember why I got bored with this board a while back. Every rich nation started off poor like the nations I mentioned. They all had to develop and go...
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

kresge ·
As I said, I think the issue is really what one deems or can make a case for relevance. For example, why are books on Linux more relevant than say Souls of Black Folk by WEB Du Bois. Why is Dancing Wu Li Masters more relevant than Toni Morrison's Beloved or Michel Foucaults Order of Things . I would have removed much of the science fiction and the electronic texts and included more historical (African Diasporic as well as European) and sociological, philosophical, and anthropological texts...
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

umbrarchist ·
How many computers were there in the world when W.E.B. Du Bois wrote Souls of Black Folk? Souls of Black Folk was published in 1903. The vacuum tube had not been invented. It would be another 5 years before Henry Ford introduced the Model T. Do you have any idea how much that changed the American way of life? Du Bois was born in 1868. Marx didn't die until Du Bois was 15 years old. People are constantly talking about children being the future but clutter their heads with trivia from the...
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Re: Why Isn't There a White History Month?

ricardomath ·
I was gonna wait 'till the end of the month before reposting this, but what the hell... Back by popular demand... White History Year Resumes WASHINGTON, DC"”With Black History Month over, U.S. citizens are putting aside thoughts of Harriet Tubman and George Washington Carver to resume the traditional observation of White History Year. Above: A stamp honoring European-American aviation pioneer Charles Lindbergh is unveiled as part of White History Year celebrations. White History Year, which...
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Re: The Dual Theology Heresy of John Hagee!!!

BOMANI ·
http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/hagee.htm JOHN HAGEE Who is this Man? JOHN HAGEE IN CHARISMATIC ORBIT- Dr. John Hagee is a bestselling author and pastor of the 17,000-member charismatic Cornerstone Church in San Antonio. He was an NRB '98 speaker and has an honorary degree from Oral Roberts University. He is pictured in the 8/00 Charisma-along with Oral Roberts, Benny Hinn, T.D. Jakes, and Kenneth Copeland-as a speaker for Creflo Dollar's International Covenant Ministries...
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Re: Abortion ban

HonestBrother ·
Pope John Paul II
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Re: One Man Battling the Democratic Party

1milehi ·
http://adeebafolami.com/archives/2006/perryman2.html
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Re: Ogou's Iron or Jesus' Irony

Melesi ·
Wouldn't it depend on the message? I'm not sure that the means of the message, the vehicle the message is carried in, is really very important. Is't it permissible to become "all things to all people" in the preaching as long as the message is true? The reaction of the viewers was not a reaction to themessage, if I read the article right, only a reaction to the method of its delivery, and thus to an extent misunderstood. It could be, could it not, that this might have been something like...
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Re: Ogou's Iron or Jesus' Irony

HonestBrother ·
Melesi, Perhaps the method that the Pentecostal preacher was using communicated a message that HE did not understand.... The method - the style of the black preacher - being a gift of the ancestors that we've retained but whose purpose - for Divine communication - * we * fail to understand because of our cultural alienation from Africa... I'm reminded of the film The Gods Must Be Crazy - where the cultures are now reversed: we're the 'primitives' making sounds we do not understand... Message...
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Re: Ogou's Iron or Jesus' Irony

kresge ·
HB, That is exactly the authors point. Western culture tends to be logocentric, but that is not universal. That is just one dimension of communication and transmission of information. As I said, I came across this article some time ago in my research. One of the things that people who study religion are doing more of are analysing not just words (doctrine, dogma, theology) but practice, space, and the body. Thus, while the preacher was saying one thing, his body (voice, movement, etc)...
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Re: Ogou's Iron or Jesus' Irony

Oshun Auset ·
Thanks for explaining it to those who refuse to understand.
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Re: What are you listening to right now?

Fagunwa ·
ArtGurl I say it every day like Paul Mooney says the n word and for the same reason, it makes my teeth white.
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Re: Whitewashing the 10 Commandments

DogBreath ·
Well, I won't be watching it. I'm so dagum tired of Hollywood...shucks, white America trying to write black people out of biblical history. Zipporah was an Ethiopian....a Cushite woman. Nothing Spanish about that. Her father Jethro was also....well....Ethiopian. Yet, instead of getting a black woman, they went and got a Spanish one. That's a slap in the collective faces of black people. It is so sad that even many white so called "theologians" are STILL trying to write black people out of...
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Re: What are you listening to right now?

Khalliqa ·
Okay.... I'm a jazz fanatic.... especially contemporary jazz.... and a few blues selections.... but.... for some reason today.... I just needed some really fast.... really shallow.... really bass thumping music...... so I turned to the regular stations and I'm hooked now on that "Kryptonite" song sigh.... and right now I cannot stop singing this Sean Paul(?) song ..."Temperature"... "When the weather turns cold... I'm gonna be keeping you warm.... I've got the right temperature to shelter...
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Re: What are you listening to right now?

Frenchy ·
I love Natalie Cole's version of it. I always put on that disk when I'm taking a long bath. V , have no shame. I spent a week bopping around to Beyawnce's "Check Up On It." You're on the right track though with Sean Paul AKA The Sexiest Man Alive!!! I'm listening to: Whitney Houston - Guide Me O Jehovah (Live on Arsenio)
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Re: They Say You're "Acting White"? You Probably Deserve It

ItAintEazy ·
Well, that's a fair statement, but in my view there are two types of "intelligent" black folks: those who can recite the whole works of Shakespeare and can quote Jean=Paul Sartre, but have no idea who Kahlil Gibran is, and like her who aren't afraid to learn the real truths about their people.
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Re: They Say You're "Acting White"? You Probably Deserve It

umbrarchist ·
This entire subject could be called the psychology of class and its relationship to economics and race. ROFL A Bleck woman asked me to come to Paris with her a few years ago. I told her the Russians could nuke Paris. She handed me all this stuff about HISTORY. I didn't want to get into an argument about it so I let the subject drop. I say if you are going to Europe for history you go to Rome not Paris. She had a thing about Paris. She showed me some photos when she got back. I didn't care...
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Re: Who is the BEST African American Actor?

FireFly ·
I must say I like Don Cheadle and Denzel Washington for their acting and diversity of films - so they share my vote. And let's not forget James Earl Jones for his prolific career and talents. (I also like Jamie Foxx and Lawrence and Wesley to varying degrees) While hunting around on the World-Wide-Waste-Of-Time, I also came across this rather interesting sounding man!! I haven't seen any of his films but he was obviously a Renaissance Man with a lot of talent and flair and substance. What an...
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Re: Who is the BEST African American Actor?

James Wesley Chester ·
I was about say, 'WHAT????' No one has mentioned Samuel L. Jackson. He has to be in the top few (4 or 5); at least, based on sheer volume alone. Morgan Freeman Denzel Washington Samuel L. Jackson Lawrence Fishburne Don Cheadle Terence Wright And...that's just for starters. And...that's ASSuming that 'actor' means males only!! And they say nothing has changed. I remember when the choices would have been Willie Best, Step 'n Fetchit, Rochester, Lena Horne, Paul Robeson, Dorothy Dandridge,...
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Re: Jokes for a Laugh & a Smile

Fabulous ·
Things overheard at the STD clinic The quotes below are complaints reported by clients of Room 111, a public health clinic in St. Paul that treats people for sexually transmitted diseases. Nurses at the clinic began creating the list two decades ago; it now includes several hundred comments. "I have reason to believe my penis was exposed to LSD. When I ejaculate I have flashbacks." "My hair is falling out and the sun hurts my crotch." "I went to a party, had a few beers, woke up in a closet...
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Re: Jokes for a Laugh & a Smile

HonestBrother ·
Uuuugghhh.... ....
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Re: The Word ["Amen"]

Former Member ·
HonestBrother, thank you for your opinion and dialogue. It challenges me to dig deep into my mental reservoir of facts that I have studied and researched for a number of years. I'm not here to argue or belittle anyone's belief or opinion. I'm a man of facts and I'm only posting the facts that have been discovered by many and my conclusion to what I feel those facts are. You brought up some very interesting points and yet have me a little confused on some of the nature of your questions.
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Re: Is Christmas Christian?

Melesi ·
henry, Don't put words in my mouth. I did not say that sinful humans have the right or freedom to do what they want. When I said "we" I was talking about Christians.Context, henry, context. You are You are good with words, but you are terrible with meanings. Everyone has the ability to do as they please, but that doesn't make it right. When Christians set out to obey God, they will do things a little differntly, and that's ok. Anything else is a legalism that Paul takes to task in Galatians...
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Re: 9/11 - The Anniversary, The Legacy

Afroman ·
Inequality Before and After 9/11 by Paul Street I'll always remember the day I tried to engage in that silly exercise called "speaking truth to power." It was early December of 2001. My topic was American policymakers' decision to place nearly a million black people behind bars and to mark more than one in three black males with a felony record. As a member of a Chicago-based council of advisers working to help ex-offenders "reintegrate" into the "free world," I was invited to a pleasant...
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Re: [B]Afrigenesis: A Phenomenon of The African Diaspora[/B]

Norland ·
That's because I remember Johnny Ray and Les Paul and Mary Ford too!!
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Re: The Juice...

Nykkii ·
9.16 juice SISQO DONE LOST HIS DAMN MIND! R&B singer shoots neighbor's car, say cops. (Sep. 16, 2003) *We know that Dru Hill has been going through a luke warm period as far as their material is concerned, but that ain't no reason for Sisqó to be actin' like he lost his got-dang mind, or is it? MTV.com reports that Sisqó was arrested early Saturday morning along with his girlfriend after pulling a *Richard Pryor. He allegedly fired several shots at a car parked outside a neighbor's...
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Re: Caucasian Club?

ricardomath ·
This reminds me of an old news story from March of this year. White History Year Resumes WASHINGTON, DC"”With Black History Month over, U.S. citizens are putting aside thoughts of Harriet Tubman and George Washington Carver to resume the traditional observation of White History Year. Above: A stamp honoring European-American aviation pioneer Charles Lindbergh is unveiled as part of White History Year celebrations. White History Year, which runs annually from Jan. 1 through Dec. 31, with a...
 
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