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Re: Vouchers ???

DogBreath ·
Rather than 'naysay' the thing, why not take the constructive route? With an assured tuition, enterprising African American-American now have a viable opportunity to create a school(s) for their own children in a construction they approve, and pay for. PEace Jim Chester[/QUOTE] That sounds good in theory....for real....it does. But do you actually believe that the powers that be would allow black folk to form their own institutions with taxpayer dollars?? Shucks, some are still complaining...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
EVEN MORE!! http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml More responses to "Do Black Men Still Want Us?" Spirited comments about romantic options and worries Letters to the Editor Published October 2, 2004 Where is the love? A magazine asks whether black men still desire black women. Eight men offer their answers. Black women speak out Earlier this week, African-American men answered women's question "Do Black Men Still Want Us?' Now women discuss their romantic...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Nmaginate ·
COP OUT!! And your typical Race To The RAT HOLE! I guess you have that thing you call "CONDITIONED HOPELESSNESS." You only have power/influence that only goes so far. You can't do any more than that. You're hopeless. The situation you're up against is hopeless. I mean, you rant, rave and rail against stuff? That you can't control? I thought you had a theory about that. You know, that you don't worry about things and people you have no control over. CON-Feed. It's NOW time for the STOP THE...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
My take on Part One:...in bold When elementary school teacher Patti Hairston picked up Monday's edition of the St. Petersburg Times, she braced herself. "I knew there would be negative things said about black women by black men," she said. very interesting, esp. since the writer of the original article was merely seeking the 'other side' of the Essence article. Lori Chung, 28, associate TV news producer, single, Brooklyn Personally, I don't feel the love from black men to black women and...
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

sunnubian ·
No, Hillary is correct. I think what is being misunderstood is that she is in the comparison the House of Representatives ARE the masters and the masses of American citizens are the slaves. I totally agree with her, and will go on to say that (as I have said before) that this republican regime IS running America like a plantation; During slavery, those with money held all the power in this country and disbursed it to whom ever and where ever they chose to, and held it back from whomever they...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

nayo ·
Name-calling? Darn. I especially agreed with this: "Most of the so-called love I've seen has been a lot of infantile degradation..." Ad nauseum. I recently had a black fellow, ask me could I find him a girlfriend. Ask me could I find HIM a girlfriend. I said my name was'nt 'Hitch'. Then, he goes on to say, "you sure got some big legs...I see those big legs everyday, and I say mmmmmmmm. Where yo man at, gurrl? Let me give you my phone number, and you tell ya girls about me. ya heah. I'm 53...
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

Faheem ·
You have any proof that this is what she meant? I opined as you did that if she was talking about the Congress relationship with the masses of men and women in America as one of Slave and Master than she is not that far from the truth albeit the analogy still pales in comparison to what our ancestors lived through and that legacy should not be disrespected by equating it with realities far less inhumane.
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

sunnubian ·
--------------------------------------------- I can't see the difference in whether she said house of representatives, congress, supreme court, republican dominated political posts across the board, same difference; republican dominated and controlled and the neo-republican party is dominated and controlled by racist white southerners. But I guess you may have to have been born and raised in the south and know enough about southern history to know for a fact that post slavery, the south was...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

folobatuyi ·
oyinbo...hmm...Nayo..are you Nigerian? just curious.
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Nmaginate ·
I had an actual, admitted "WHITE BOY" drop this one on me. So I decided to share mostly because it listed those 4 central themes, those so-called Unpopular "Truths". As I read *it* all (the "White BOY" stopped at #2 and figured the statement about Standard Of Living would help him) I was like, "This Is Straight Out Of The CON-FEED Reader!" Especially this: Compare that with CON-Feed's favorite hook (among many):
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Little Fella: In all seriousness - could YOU lay out a plan of how the latent effects of "380 years of racism and oppression" are going to finally be dissolved? Will this be from ACTIONS BY WHITE FOLKS or actions CENTRALLY FOCUSED ON BLACK FOLKS? For all of the huff and puff that you display and your supposed Black authority I find you and others to be uniquely CLUELESS when it comes to translating your ideas into workable solutions in the REAL WORLD among Black people. It seems to me that...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Nmaginate ·
Ask an intelligent question. I'll ask you a quick one: LATENT EFFECTS? What are you calling Latent Effects and the importance or reason why they will need to be "finally", completely dissolved is... WHAT? Consider this, then get back to me (right from the Project-2019 article): Black Americans must understand that racism existed in 1619, racism exists in 2001, and racism will exist in 2099. Therefore, the critical element is the degree to which racism affects the lives, the liberties, and...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

James Wesley Chester ·
---Nmaginate This one of the reasons I don't like to talk to Europeans about my circumstance. My mind would make me 'write a check' my body can't cash,... anymore. Each of these points treat their respective subjects as the ONLY reason. We know no one thing is ever the ONLY thing. 'Racism', 'educational equivalency', 'no fix', and 'only we can fix' Racism is not bound by time, nor is racism defined by time. Racism is a finite structural entity of American society. It is integral to the...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Nmaginate ·
Or rather by accepting "his place" and then trying to repackage that acceptance as a Morally Superior position. You know, as CON-Feed tries to prop up and infuse his one-sided "Interal Focus" idea as a positive and tries to disparage what he calls the effort "To Have White Folks Change" as a negative... as if his view is certifiably better, more focused, more concerned, more appropriate and more constructive and instructive towards the uplift and forward flow of the Black Community and its...
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Re: Al Sharpton Accuses Bush Of Fueling Homophobia Among Blacks

ricardomath ·
Black Church Summit 23 Dec 05 12:00 AM EST SCHEDULE OF EVENTS Sharpton and Flunder to Headline Black Church Summit on Gay Rights Focus on Homophobia and Exclusionary Divisiveness December 20, 2005 - Washington, DC - National Black Justice Coalition (NBJC) will convene a major discussion on lesbian and gay rights among black faith leaders. The two day Summit is to be hosted by First Iconium Baptist Church in Atlanta, Georgia and is scheduled for January 20-21, 2006. For a schedule of events,...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Rowe ·
I've been monitoring this debate, and apparently, both of you are trying to convey a similar message: Be more realistic. Black women: you can't have the Denzel look-alike with a six figure salary. And Black men: You can't have the tiny-figured Halle Berry look-alike who waits on you hand and foot. So I have a question for readers. Do you all think this culture's obsession with mega super stars has interferred with everyday people's interest in the opposite sex? Perhaps our standards are not...
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Re: Plane Hits Building...

MBM ·
I would guess that there are certainly as many cameras in our nation's capital as in NYC. Where is the footage of the plane hitting the Pentagon as we have with the WTC? The footage that has been released raises way more questions than answers. In fact, in my eyes, it suggests that there was NO plane. Bottom line evidence for me is that without regard to what was found on the ground (which we have no clue about how it got there), the physical eviodence on the building itself is - to the lay...
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Re: Plane Hits Building...

MBM ·
Similarly, in the face of considerable evidence to the contrary, why people passively consume what they are fed by the government (a group that is known to do anything for political gain) is beyond me. At some point, if one is a critical thinker, thay have to ask the serious question: who benefitted by 9/11? Our president had zero political leverage and extremely weak popular support prior to 9/11. The public realized that, for better or worse, the Supreme Court put Bush in office NOT the...
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Re: Plane Hits Building...

MBM ·
WHAT EVIDENCE? You see a picture with some "stuff" on the ground and are told that it is airplane parts - and that is evidence? You assume alot. You assume that the debris came from the plane. You assume that the debris was actually ever even there (folks can do wonders with digital photography these days you know). The fact of the matter is that the planes that hit the twin towers acted radically different than whatever hit the Pentagon. The fact of the matter is that (despite this occuring...
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Re: Plane Hits Building...

Frenchy ·
Please do actually read the information provided. It's not just some "stuff" on the ground. It is very clearly plane parts (seats, wheels, parts of the bulkhead, etc) in some cases with the AA paint pattern still visible. Lord Have Mercy. You're one of those who will never believe no matter who have right in front of your won eyes. Yes, everything right down to the EYEWITNESS accounts and pictures from numerous news agencies could be completely manufactured. So could everything you see all...
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Re: Plane Hits Building...

MBM ·
I never said it never existed. Quite the contrary. I just said it never hit the Pentagon. For example, say Cheney's order to shoot down all incoming planes was actually executed on this plane. Is it so implausible, in the panic of 9/11, for someone (Rove?) to manufacture the story that that flight hit the Pentagon as opposed to was shot down by American planes? Can you understand the extraordinary political risks associated with a president - already with the shakiest of politcal footings -...
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Re: Plane Hits Building...

MBM ·
Frenchy - darling - do you understand anything about politics? Do you understand that a weak president shooting down an American plane would be political suicide? What if they shot the plane down and it really didn't have any "terrorists" on it? They made a mistake and thought a plane that was returning to land was in "attack mode" and shot it down. Who knows? Do you know anything about Dick Cheney that would lead you to believe that he would NOT shoot down an American plane? If the primary...
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Re: Plane Hits Building...

Blacksanction ·
Well Frenchy keep banging away. Some folks still think that the CIA has something to do with creating crack for blacks, the sponsorship of the Bloods and Crips, and the creation and spread of AIDS. So trying to convince them that a plane did not actually crash into the Petagon is a futile effort. It's not like the CIA, NSA are actually known for keeping secrets ie. the warrantless eavesdropping on American citizens. Ps you're not a CIA mole or something
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

sunnubian ·
_____________________________________________ ______________________________________________ I couldn't agree more, but then that brings us back to that 'unity' thing, wherein the whole of African America (preferable under the umbrella of your African American Congress of sorts) has to come together (unity) to vote, build political bases, raise the funds that it would take to challange the present laws, discriminate sentencing laws, abuses of power, wrongful convictions, unconstitutional...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Nmaginate ·
SUNNUBIAN, we've had several discussions here about that African-American Congress... In my view, the first order of business would be to Coordinate Organizations, etc. with Similar Functions. And COORDINATION is the whole idea of UNITY as I see it. The fundamental philosophy would be that We're All In This Together with the fundamental assumption being that We All Want What's Best For The Black Community. For this to happen, IMO, it will take a Phil Jackson like statesperson who can keep...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

sunnubian ·
I think we all are in agreement with the only true difference being how we have either worded or express our opinion. ---------------------------------- Side: What would you say to a Mock African American Congress on this board where we would address real issues in African America as a test run on your idea?
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Empty Purnata ·
AYE!!
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Huey ·
I agree with you that Pam is hotter than Gina...at least physically hotter. The problem is that Pam is dark-skinned (not that it's anything wrong with it), Gina is lighter-skinned, and that when you usually have TWO good-looking black women together (of different complexions), they have to be competitive to a point. Also, the darker-skinned character Pam is unfortunately casted as a "sapphire", a shrewish selfish, inconsiderate black female character. Besides, knowing about the skin color...
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Re: Civil Rights Focus Shift Roils Staff At Justice

Kweli4Real ·
Politics Alleged In Voting Cases Justice Officials Are Accused of Influence By Dan Eggen Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, January 23, 2006; A01 The Justice Department's voting section, a small and usually obscure unit that enforces the Voting Rights Act and other federal election laws, has been thrust into the center of a growing debate over recent departures and controversial decisions in the Civil Rights Division as a whole. Many current and former lawyers in the section charge that...
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Europe's Love-Hate Relationship With Africa If the concept of "whiteness" has influenced the world, and the goal of White Supremacy is to establish (and maintain) whiteness as THE standard of universal beauty, how do we account for Europe's (of all places) fascination with Black people? How do you account for Europeans', particularly those in the Fashion Industry, love for Native African models like Alek Wek? Considering Europe is the place from which European-Americans come, one would...
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

nayo ·
That perspective, gives me cognitive dissonant reflux, everytime. Perhaps the 'appreciation', is more fetishstic(sp), than 'natural' appreciation, which I'm hesitant to understand. I think of Europe's adoration of Grace Jones in the 1980's, and feeling something was 'off'. Not that Jones was'nt a beautiful woman (if not odd), but being that Europe, is the cradle of white supremacy, their appreciation suggests something deeper, more than a 'simple' appreciation of aesthetics. Makes me go,...
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

kresge ·
IMO, the attraction is rooted in the signifying, displacement, projection or othering that is part of white supremacy. If one sets up these binaries of white/black, good/bad, chase/sexual and libidinous, saintly/sinner one will see this phenomenon of love/hate. Women of color have historically been portrayed as sexual, erotic, alluring, dark and mysterious as well as ugly, undesirable, and repulsive. The "other" both attracts and repells. It fascinates and terrifies.
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Sister Marimba Ani (1994), speaking on the collective hypocrisy exhibited by Europeans in Chapter one of her book Yurugu: An African-Centered Critique of European Thought and Behavior believes hypocrisy is a "way of life" for Europeans. She would undoubtedly agree with the explanations you and Brother Nayo have provided. Hypocrisy as a Way of Life Marimba Ani Within the nature of European culture there exists a statement of value or of "moral" behavior that has no meaning for the members of...
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Re: Who Should Pay for Reparations? Black Americans... Obviously

Afrimerican ·
In all the post topics, the persons calling themself nmaginate, and the Chester person do a good cop/bad cop routine, and with the present political climate, it makes me wonder if they and this site are a C.I.A. front to stir the pot of confusion and idiocy. I know AfricanAmerican.com is a C.I.A. sponsored site, and I know from my prior experiences with persons mentioned, they serve to do no more than fuel an already blazing inferno of discord and dissension, denying the linear chronology of...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Rowe ·
I don't need to click on every thread to know what to expect. Considering the media already bombards us with images of Black women as sluts and hoes, yes I do find these images offensive, and I do become uncomfortable looking at them. I imagine it's the same feeling that you may get whenever you turn on the news to see yet another Black man being handcuffed and hauled off to jail. My purpose for visiting African-America.org, and other progressive venues, is to get away from these demonizing...
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Re: I guess the draft will start once they start f-king with Iran

Kevin41 ·
**Democracy and Freedom of Speech my azz: L.A. Times writer defends incendiary Iraq column Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:27 PM ET By Dan Whitcomb LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A Los Angeles Times columnist who infuriated conservatives by writing that he does not support American troops fighting in Iraq -- and calling those who do "wusses" -- stood by the article on Tuesday. Joel Stein said he has been "bombarded" by hate mail over the incendiary article -- which was headlined "Warriors and Wusses" and held...
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Re: Who Should Pay for Reparations? Black Americans... Obviously

Nmaginate ·
No attacks... Just a whole bunch of laughin'!!!! Maybe you ought to take some time and research this Secret Agent Man's postings on that very type of subject - approach. If you know me the idea of SOVEREIGNTY is crucial to my conception of Reparations. Black people were effectively dispossessed of their(our) land too... Native Americans via Reservations, etc. have [at least] a modicum of sovereignty ... [African Americans] haven't even been treated with [that] much respect or in the same...
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Re: I guess the draft will start once they start f-king with Iran

Faheem ·
Here is a great piece by Pat... __________________________ Iran vs. Israel: Bush's dilemma -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: January 25, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Patrick J. Buchanan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © 2006 Creators Syndicate, Inc. In the test of wills between the West and Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad shows no sign of backing down. The Iranian president has said Israel should...
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Re: Keeping A 'Black Book' on Black Cops

Black Viking ·
No kidding! Were they expecting a different result this time? I thought these to words were synonymus in a cops mind. More synonyms. OK Johnson, explain how one of these is somehow worse than the other. There is a reason why we have such a hard time listening to these double speaking politicians, it's because they say crap like this. He won't "apologize", but he has "expressed regret"? If this is even remotely true, how did he get himself into this mess in the first place? What Police...
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Re: Gunmen attack Nigeria oil complex

Texas Star ·
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa/01/25/nigeria.hostages.reut/index.html WARRI, Nigeria (Reuters) -- Villagers fled Nigeria's lawless delta on Wednesday amid fears of military reprisals after a wave of attacks on foreign oil companies by ethnic Ijaw militia. The army deployed more troops to key installations and oil companies tightened security around their offices a day after heavily armed men stormed the headquarters of Italian oil firm Agip, robbing a bank on the premises and killing...
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Re: Keeping A 'Black Book' on Black Cops

sunnubian ·
I'm sure there is a 'black book' of this sort keeping tabs on ALL black police officers in every city in every state in America; There really should be a 'black book' kept on all police in every city in every state in America by American citizens, African American citizens in particular.
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

HonestBrother ·
(1) Is this taking into account another 100 years of Jim Crow? (2) It's controversial exactly what Lincoln and the Union troops were sacrificing for - i.e., was it to end slavery or was it to preserve the Union? And there were also non-altruistic reasons for white northerners to oppose slavery. For example, many white northern industrialists feared that if the south industrialized that it would have a tremendous competitive advantage due to access to a huge pool of free slave labor. (3) But...
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Re: Keeping A 'Black Book' on Black Cops

James Wesley Chester ·
There really should be a 'black book' kept on all police in every city in every state in America by American citizens, African American citizens in particular---sunnubian That's the book I envision. I would show a lot of good, and a lot of bad. The bad would wither in the exposure. The good would be nourished. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

Nmaginate ·
Well, I just up the STICKER SHOCK ante. Horowitz & Co. want to attach value to the lives of those soldiers who, in his estimation, fought against Slavery... value for the lives lost in an effort to eradicate Slavery... Well, let's count every Black soldier and every enslaved or "free" African/African-American who lost their lives during Slavery. We can even set up a calculus to estimate those who resisted Slavery, actively, openly or passively. Now, let me see the Calculators!! Let's...
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Re: The Elephant in the Room While Black Kids Misbehave? Single Parent Homes

Nmaginate ·
Or we can actually be honest and get off the ideological soapboxes. How about that? ************************************************************************** ************************************************************************** Compare & Contrast: "We can either march forward under the illusion that a discipline gap exists because teachers are a bunch of racists ..." "What remains unclear is how people who are concerned with fairness and equality would seek to institutionalize the...
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Re: A Narrow View of Black Women

folobatuyi ·
[QUOTE]Originally posted by HonestBrother: ..... As individuals we can refuse to be consumers of these images.....[QUOTE] Interesting point, HB and one that I strive to live by. It also remains me of an instance at work where a co-resident of mine who is a white girl was surprized to hear that I didn't date white girls as it was kinda expected in the area (Ohio) of successful and educated black guys. She was also surprized that I did not like skinny, boarderline prepubiscent girls; instead I...
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

Black Viking ·
Christ, where do I start... Horsesh*t. There were two major contributing factors to the end of slavery and neither one had anything to do with the good graces of the slave holders. First, at the end of the 100 years war between England and France, both nations abolished slavery as a part of the treaty. They did this, presumably, because the economic advantage of slavery would have undone their stalemate if only one of them had it. But it became threatening for America to be the only Atlantic...
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

James Wesley Chester ·
I think that Lincoln gets way to much credit for this. He wrote in a letter, just before the beginning of the Civil War, that his "greatest concern is to save the Union. If I believed that preserving slavery would accomplish that goal, I would do so." The only thing Lincoln deserves credit for is being far sighted enough to realize that if slavery wasn't abolished, the slaves themselves were going to tear his beloved Union down around his ears.---Black Viking I really appreciat your post. I...
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

Black Viking ·
Exactly...
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