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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Empty Purnata ·
CON-Feed: "......*stuttering*...........Well, you depend on a CAPITALIST system created by the White Man. Why don't you go back to Africa and try making your SOCIALIST paradise over there where the White Man won't oppress you!.......*stuttering*........You use services invented by the White Man (the White Man invented and built America, you just live here), so you are a hypocrite!!!1111! You even use services made by WHITE LIBERALS meant to keep you dependent on the...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Empty Purnata ·
But, I have a few theories on who and what CON-Feed is (and he's not the only one here like himself, Michael Lofton doesn't count, he's a Spambot): 1) A CONSERVATIVE WHITE GUY WHO VIEWS BLACK PEOPLE AS BEING "BENEATH HIM" COMING HERE TO SPAM THE SITE WITH TRIPE (WHILE PRETENDING TO BE BLACK) THINKING HE CAN GET US TO BREAK DOWN AND ACT ALL "NIGGERISH" SO HE CAN GET A GOOD LAUGH. 2) An extremely sheltered Black man who grew up in a middle-class/rich home by Black Middleclass parents who told...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Isome ·
You mean minimizers/deniers who say things like "thug culture" in comparison with the racism in America is worse for the Black community at large -- as if "thug culture" is a concept born, bred and thriving only among people of African descent, regardless of economic status or educational background, and without any external influences that nurture it? ...those kind of mindless, malevolent, deconstructive minimizers/deniers... that's what is being referred to, right?!
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Re: Vouchers ???

Isome ·
John Stossel has been a right wing shill for as long as he's been a part of 20/20. NOT showing both sides of the story is his modus operandi. excerpted from the book Banana Republicans How the Right Wing Is Turning America into a One-Party State by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber Jeremy Tarcher/Penguin, 2004 The career of John Stossel on ABC's 20/20 offers another example of the way the echo chamber works to place conservative ideas into the mainstream media, while hiding the interests of...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Nmaginate ·
Well, if that's anything close to his idea then surely he realizes that the schools are a reflection of the society. It's an indictment of the society, it's contradications and conflicting motives and myths. There is no way, save a DUMB one, to intelligently maintain that the conditions of American schools are the product of any one cause or culprit. The fact that schools, those that are less than up to par are what they are reflect on this society's commitment to education above politics...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Guest ·
As I told my frat brother who encouraged me to join "N'Cobra" - I would consider joining BUT since he told me that they have a dual approach - REPARATION FROM AMERICA FOR SLAVERY and THE PROCESS FOR INTERNAL REPAIR WITHIN BLACK AMERICA. I told him that I would BE MORE FOCUSED ON THE INTERNAL REPAIR PROCESS. I would never do anything to stand in the way of the receipt of resources from America in the name of "Reparations" but this seems to me to be very much so less important toward acheiving...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

HonestBrother ·
My purpose was * NOT * to establish a dichotomy that encapsulated all the options in front of African Americans. As I agree that there are many other more urgent matters. I was * Only * addressing the single issue of reparations. And thank you for answering my question: In regards to the issue of reparations, you're really NOT serious. Forgetting already? : Reading for COMPREHENSION is fundamental.
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
You keep saying that silly BS... Tell us, when will that One Day be? I'd like to mark it on my calendar. That or just have you concede that that's the most ridiculous and, for you, SELF-HATRED filled BS:See? That's the type of SELF-HATRED I'm talking about. Which one is it, CON-Feed? Will they STAY (and pull ladders, etc.) or will the GO (and leave Black people here in America on our merry, "dependent" own? Just make up your mind what BS you think is going to work best and be done with it.
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Re: Who Should Pay for Reparations? Black Americans... Obviously

James Wesley Chester ·
We, as black Americans, owe reparations for slavery.---Mike Green What a warped interpretation to put into the discussion. It is a betrayal of the best interests of African America. He will be rewarded well, and probably already is. And...it is willful. A boat-load of people, Project 21, who do 'Charlie's Job'. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
thanks for mentioning these books - I haven't seen them over here. can you expand/explain this a little more please? .
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Empty Purnata ·
Exactly!
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Art_Gurl, it's a (linked) commentary from the web-mag, The Black Commentator. The author is ANTHONY ASADULLAH SAMAD, an occasional contributer there. As for the books, I can vouch for WHY WE CAN'T WAIT. I've had the occasion to re-read/review it over the last few years. Perhaps it would shed some light on how the "race" conversation was "called to a halt" because MLK's actual ideas don't mesh with those who love to profess a belief in a "colorblind society." Perhaps you can tell me what you...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Seriously, you would have to tell me when an actual process of a Dialogue even began, in earnest. And that's the thing. In my thinking, an earnest attempt would require dealing with that one thing that caused us (you and I) some trouble earlier - WHITE SUPREMACY. My view, when talking about Race RELATIONS, there has to be a real conversations about RELATIONSHIPS. Power Relationships. In short, there can be no dialogue when a Slave - Master Relationship, a "Superior-to-Subordinate"...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
fair enough - I just took that if something had 'halted' then whatever it was had already begun. Keep in mind I have zilch experience and knowledge of a lot of US politics - local and national - just a rough 'outline', so things like Affirmative Action, or when Clinton asked in 1997 'to begin a great national conversation on race and conciliation' that I have a limited view - limited to access on information, limited in viewpoint as an outsider, and a white outsider to boot. I have to ask a...
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Re: A Declaration of Unity and Vested Interest in America

James Wesley Chester ·
No, I didn't write it. But does kinda look like 'my stuff'. Right? Out of curiosity, and with it being the MLK Holiday, I thought I would post this piece without credits. This piece is the seminal resolution of the Free African Society Convention of 1817 held in Philadelphia at Bethel A.M.E. Church. The convention and its resulting resolution was in repudiation of the American Colonization Movement to deport African American-Americans. It is the seminal document to the foundation of African...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
NO! It is exactly that unbalance relationship that leads to a stalled, halted or forsaken "dialogue." Arguably, people could say Dr. King and Pres. Lydon Johnson started a "dialogue." For sure, a number of common folk or community leaders, mostly educators and religious leaders have had "dialogues." But hardly any thing that can be regarded as a serious "dialogue" where it counts, in the halls of power. As for Clinton's deal, you can research and look for opinions about that "conversation".
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Re: Vouchers ???

DogBreath ·
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sweetwuzzy: After reading Sowell's article, I clicked on his link to the Rose and Milton Friedman website. What is everyones position on vochers? Why are you for or against it ? Please do not resort to petty attacks such as "sell out," "Kneegrow," or Uncle tom !!" I really want to know how everyone feels about this?? I do not know if you saw this, but John Stossel did a show called "Dumb in america." I was a little annoyed how the show did not present both sides...
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

Faheem ·
There is no watering over her analogy, there is nothing she can say or for that matter you can say that can juxtapose rich folk and bureaucracy with the way Plantations were run. While Plantation reality contradicted parts of the constitution, local and state law were in accordance with Plantation life. Plantation realities were far more than violations of parts of the constitution and I do not believe her analogy makes sense and lessens the impact of the role of Plantation in our...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Ummm... No, obviously, you don't. And this is exactly why: "I see there being two sides to the process." I'm going to be crude because you're working under the false assumption that Black people need to know something about White people. That's a rather curious idea especially when you say: Very few white people ever think about 'being white' and what that means... white privilege. Hmmm... Black people know White Privilege. What is it you think Black people stand to learn about White people...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Guest ·
Texas Star: UNITITY alone is not what we Black folks need. The dominant Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive Fundamentalist wants UNITY with ALL OTHERS dropping what they believe and rallying around their flag. They alone know all about Black folks and everyone else is wrong. I WANT UNITY BEHIND OBJECTIVES AND THEN METHODS TO ACHEIVE THEM THAT ARE PROVEN TO WORK. Prove that what you preach is EFFECTIVE and I will be the biggest cheerleader. Instead we have folks who run off of the notions of...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

James Wesley Chester ·
I almost hate to add to this already clear issue. Almost. Without simple cynicism, there is nothing to be gained by engaging in discussion to 'educate' European-Americans, or European America. Both are 'consciously ignorant', as in invincibly ignorant. We do not owe such an effort to either African America, or America herself. That ignorance, of the European American, is a cultured, and treasured perspective that successfully resisted all efforts to effect change. That 'promised land' is not...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Guest ·
Isome: Please detail the ERRORS in my post that you refer to INSTEAD of the points that YOU disagree with? Are they "wrong" because YOU disagree with them or are they "wrong" in absolute terms? It is interesting that when AMERICA talked about "unifying behind the flag" after the 9/11 attacks SOME PEOPLE like Al Sharpton wisely saw the consequences of doing so. (another positive comment about a Black person, HB). He saw the call for UNITY as a call to put aside all of his concerns that were...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Well, ART_GURL, with JWC weighing in as EVERYONE (other than me) *lol*... It would seem that, in all your questions, with all the answers you're "looking" for, with all the answers you've gotten... Well, it's clear that you're just not listening. So, AG? Are you listening? You have been given information, rather freely I might add, about "what is needed for equal rights, equal opportunities..." But somehow, because of some pre-set idea you know you have ("two sides")... you're just not...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Guest ·
Rowe: I don't have the same views as your date. It is not about "working hard". PLENTY of people "work hard". For me it is about CULTURE and the PROCESS for achieving these cultural directives. Many Asian families have the concept of "Shame upon the family". This "pressure" is put upon the kids to have them act in line with some sort of principles and dignity as they conduct their lives. SURELY all of them do not abide by this all of the time but atleast it can serve as a course correction...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Nmaginate ·
COP OUT!! And your typical Race To The RAT HOLE! I guess you have that thing you call "CONDITIONED HOPELESSNESS." You only have power/influence that only goes so far. You can't do any more than that. You're hopeless. The situation you're up against is hopeless. I mean, you rant, rave and rail against stuff? That you can't control? I thought you had a theory about that. You know, that you don't worry about things and people you have no control over. CON-Feed. It's NOW time for the STOP THE...
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

sunnubian ·
No, Hillary is correct. I think what is being misunderstood is that she is in the comparison the House of Representatives ARE the masters and the masses of American citizens are the slaves. I totally agree with her, and will go on to say that (as I have said before) that this republican regime IS running America like a plantation; During slavery, those with money held all the power in this country and disbursed it to whom ever and where ever they chose to, and held it back from whomever they...
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

Faheem ·
You have any proof that this is what she meant? I opined as you did that if she was talking about the Congress relationship with the masses of men and women in America as one of Slave and Master than she is not that far from the truth albeit the analogy still pales in comparison to what our ancestors lived through and that legacy should not be disrespected by equating it with realities far less inhumane.
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

sunnubian ·
--------------------------------------------- I can't see the difference in whether she said house of representatives, congress, supreme court, republican dominated political posts across the board, same difference; republican dominated and controlled and the neo-republican party is dominated and controlled by racist white southerners. But I guess you may have to have been born and raised in the south and know enough about southern history to know for a fact that post slavery, the south was...
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Re: Who Should Pay for Reparations? Black Americans... Obviously

James Wesley Chester ·
I think the pendelum has swung to "Money supremacy", anyone with enough can join their club.---Opey Clearly, you are not paying attention. Or...like many, you see and understand but have neither the will nor desire to object. Specifically, I am about 'white supremacy'. It is still being practiced in full sight; in full sight of you and all the rest of America and the world. The law still is written to openly be applied to you differently, and you, with eyes wide open, say it isn't true. To...
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Re: Who Should Pay for Reparations? Black Americans... Obviously

Nmaginate ·
More like have enough self-respect and self-esteem as to not discredit his/their own intelligence by thinking dumb shit like that will fly. At least make a more compelling case, if there is one... (Oops! There isn't one). It's really sad and I sorta feel sorry for people who have problems saying things beyond the little juvenile simplistic, half-a-first-thought ridiculous ideas they think would or should resonate. Here's a short list of this Child's Themes (with him thinking he's talking to...
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Re: Now this is what I have been troubled with for a while..

MBM ·
I agree 1,000%, but for many black folks who haven't had shyt ever and who are bombarded with messages of consumerism - buying stuff is what satisfies immediate emotional needs. I disagree with it. I think we need to create a new set of financial goals and objectives (aspirations) which include 'money in the bank', but as America is set up now - it's all about "stuff"! Heck, I understand the phenomenon but still fall victim to it.
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Re: Now this is what I have been troubled with for a while..

HonestBrother ·
I call this the * Tammie Faye Syndrome * - what happens when people who come from modest back grounds suddenly come into some money
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
it's not that I'm not listening... quite the contrary. I am thinking a lot about what it means to be white and white priviledge. And I do ask questions of myself and other white people. It's an ongoing process and I am doing the best I myself can. I am also thinking about what can bring an end to white 'attitude' and develop consciousness about being white as well as how to build bridges that lead to equal rights and equal opportunities for all. I see all of that as quite a large thing to...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Empty Purnata ·
Who wrote this, CON-Feed? lol This article is basically saying: Hey, Black America, America is owned by White people, and it's fucked up. But hey, what can you do about it? Just stop being stupid and stop being lazy, and you'll be just fine. Racism does and always will exist, so you might as well stop fighting and just look "inward" (KEY CONSERVATIVE BULLSHIT TERM). Just keep your nose to the grind, stop looking up, and you'll get ahead before you know it. WHAT GIVES?
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Nmaginate ·
I had an actual, admitted "WHITE BOY" drop this one on me. So I decided to share mostly because it listed those 4 central themes, those so-called Unpopular "Truths". As I read *it* all (the "White BOY" stopped at #2 and figured the statement about Standard Of Living would help him) I was like, "This Is Straight Out Of The CON-FEED Reader!" Especially this: Compare that with CON-Feed's favorite hook (among many):
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

MBM ·
Could YOU? What are YOUR ideas? What has your ideology offered as a strategy to advance African America? What barometer can we look to to see the progress and RESULTS that have come from your way of thinking? Ad infinitem I have demonstrated that liberalism has fought against conservatism every step of the way to bring us from slavery to where we are today. At EVERY step along the way conservatism has fought to restrain and suppress our progress. How can you regurgitate your drivel with a...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

James Wesley Chester ·
---Nmaginate This one of the reasons I don't like to talk to Europeans about my circumstance. My mind would make me 'write a check' my body can't cash,... anymore. Each of these points treat their respective subjects as the ONLY reason. We know no one thing is ever the ONLY thing. 'Racism', 'educational equivalency', 'no fix', and 'only we can fix' Racism is not bound by time, nor is racism defined by time. Racism is a finite structural entity of American society. It is integral to the...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Nmaginate ·
Well, Kevin... when that "White Boy", a self-professed CONservative, quoted this line from Project 2019, I exposed him and his whole entire charade and scheme. He latched onto this Project 2019 (and quotes Larry Elder, Star Parker, Williams, McWhorter, etc.) and tried to celebrate saying silly shit like "Black Leaders agree with me" even after I've broke his ass down several months ago where he put his tail between his legs and just cried uncle: "I'm done with "race"..." Well, something...
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Re: The Greatness of Spike Lee

FireFly ·
Talking more Egyptian/African history pre America. Haven't seen or heard of 4 Little Girls, thanks.
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Re: Al Sharpton Accuses Bush Of Fueling Homophobia Among Blacks

Black Viking ·
Is that going to change if they get married? Is this number a reflection of tax breaks that married people get, and what other variables are there? I have a hard time believing that this income gap is actually caused by being a same-sex couple. The same Census shows white same-sex couples actually have more median income than white heterosexual couples. If this is true, then we deserve what we got. This is another great example of ideological manipulation . It's pretty easy to follow. It...
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Re: Plane Hits Building...

MBM ·
Frenchy - your powers of comprehension and discernment are waning fast. Either stop drinking, or start! Here is a scenario: There was a plane. It approached the Capitol. It was shot down . . . somehwere. A missile was purposefully shot into the Pentagon to manufacture the more politically feasible/digestible scenario that was force fed America. OR There was a plane. It approached the Capitol. In the process of shooting it down one missile errantly hit the Pentagon.
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Re: Plane Hits Building...

Frenchy ·
Tis you who should pick up a drink (and a clue). The plot gets thicker by the minute! So now we have TWO missiles! We shoot down the plane for some reason. And then we go on to shoot our own selves at the Pentagon. And then presumably clean up the "real" crash site of the plane and litter the Pentagon with the bodies and fuselage. This sounds reasonable to you?? THIS? sounds better and more realistic than a plane ran into the Pentagon? Weee! Now we have a Smart Missle that is bright enough...
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Re: Plane Hits Building...

MBM ·
Frenchy - you are incredible. I'll post the scenarios again. Perhaps this time you'll READ them. To be clear - there was a plane. It just didn't hit the Pentagon as the scenarios above suggest - AGAIN.
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Re: Plane Hits Building...

ocatchings ·
Not jumping on eiher bandwagon but if one were to use your example, then that would leave wreckage of a large plane somewhere. Given the fact that missiles don't destroy planes it would be even more difficult to "hide evidence". catch
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

sunnubian ·
The only way Black unity can be achieved is by a predominate number of Blacks making a concious decision to be unified and literally act on that decision. Dis-unity is the primary reason for Blacks being the lowest on the totem pole in America and throughout the world and unity is the only thing that will move us from that position, especially, in rates that will make tangible differences.
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

James Wesley Chester ·
How do African Americans create a "unity paradigm" that works for the highly stratified "black diaspora?"---Nmaginate The group I am referencing is that group that is of unknown African ancestry. That group may be expanded to include any other person of African ancestry who a citizen of, or resident in, the United States. And I guess I should add all those involved should be speaking to the best needs for African America, as indicated in your initial phrase of the quote. Having said that...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

sunnubian ·
We would first HAVE to make a conscious decision to be Unified, we would then have to ACT ON THAT UNITY, politically, socially, and economically. One example (among millions) of making a decision to unify and acting on it would be, for example, for African Americans to attend historically Black colleges and universities across America, which would financially empower historically Black colleges and universities while educating masses of Black people in this country, establish a base of...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Empty Purnata ·
NOW THIS IS KEY RIGHT HERE. I'm glad that you posted this, Nmag. Now these are things which harm Black Unity in America more than anything else (I would also add those who view quick monetary gain through illegal activity as "acceptable" to the dis-unity list). For Black Unity to be achieved, we also need more communal ethic with Black Businesses. Many Black Businesses operate just like White Businesses and just do business with whoever the highest bidder is (so in the end, it doesn't help...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

sunnubian ·
_____________________________________________ ______________________________________________ I couldn't agree more, but then that brings us back to that 'unity' thing, wherein the whole of African America (preferable under the umbrella of your African American Congress of sorts) has to come together (unity) to vote, build political bases, raise the funds that it would take to challange the present laws, discriminate sentencing laws, abuses of power, wrongful convictions, unconstitutional...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

sunnubian ·
I think we all are in agreement with the only true difference being how we have either worded or express our opinion. ---------------------------------- Side: What would you say to a Mock African American Congress on this board where we would address real issues in African America as a test run on your idea?
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