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Re: NEA Calls for Education Secretary Rod Paige to Resign

Kevin41 ·
**Conservatives are just racists who use politics to preserve historical white advantages in this country....... The Good News That the Thernstroms Neglected to Tell by Theodore Cross "Blacks attend college at a rate that is higher than it was for whites just two decades ago. But the good news ends there. The gap in academic achievement that we see today is actually worse than it was 15 years ago." "” No Excuses: Closing the Racial Gap in Learning by Abigail and Stephan Thernstrom Abigail...
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Re: Rice versus Clinton

Michael ·
There are two sides to every coin. Now here's the other side, and the Clinton Administration or any other Democratic Administration have yet to bring prosperity into the Black Community! "black unemployment is in double-digits under this administration...at the same time W spoke against maintaining AA in the Michigan case...I guess black people have not been disenfranchised enough yet for racist southern whites and bootlicking house negro blacks......wow" by Kevin41 ....More likely those who...
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Re: Help! There is a Lack of Brothas

HeruStar ·
<--college dropout (temporarily) I found that when I was in school, I had multiple languages/forms of communication. The was a certain way I would talk to my benefactors/mentors (old white people), there was a way that I talked to my ex-girlfriend (black BCIS major) and there was a drastic change in how I talked to my family and homies (hood/street). What I'm saying is most men wouldn't take the time to do that (although I did it involuntarily). We just want to be ourselves, whether we're...
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Re: Ideal reparations.

IRONHORSE ·
Whoa, whoa, whoa, Nmainate--I'm trying to figure out something--let's say, for sake of argument, that the U.S. government decides to go through with the plan of reparations, whatever plan that may be--where do you think the money or funding or grants or however you want to put it, is going to come from? The sky? I'm saying this because it sounds to me like you're putting the cart before the horse. --accept payback for services rendered through slavery, say, "Thanks whitey, now fuck you." and...
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Re: Ideal reparations.

HeruStar ·
Access is how I approach "dealing" with those issued you mentioned. Your views are inconsistent with eachother in the fact that you agree with giving us access, but you seem to disagree that it is a "politicaly viable" solution. Your dissent stems from:
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Re: Ideal REPARATIONS II

IRONHORSE ·
What facts are stacked against me? Who put me to sleep? BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HAH AHA HA HA!! It doesn't matter when CURE was created-- you want their help. WHAT DO YOU NEED WHITEY'S HELP FOR, NMAGINATE? WHO PUT ME TO SLEEP, NMAGINATE? Most certainly, not your contradictory, caucasian ass. In fact, all of the opposition has been against YOU , nmaginate. It's funny how people that have opposed your childish rantings, people that you've sided with before, are all of a sudden too ignorant to...
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Re: Is Bill Cosby right? or Have the Black middle class lost its mind.

Kevin41 ·
A recent article: These People Bill Cosby's criticism of poor and uneducated African Americans set off a yearlong debate. Now Michael Eric Dyson has written a book that talks back. By Erin Aubry Kaplan Erin Aubry Kaplan last wrote for the magazine about the African aesthetic in the spring 2005 fashion collections. July 24, 2005 In these days of polarizing, pulverizing debates that make it almost impossible to describe what it means to be African American anymore, I find myself better off...
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Re: The Injustice Bill Cosby Won't See By Michael E. Dyson

Blake Manner ·
Here's one of the quotes that pissed me off when I read the article. "By convincing poor blacks that their lot in life is purely of their own making..." This is what I'm talking about where he doesn't quote Cosby but rather 'generalizes' the comments of Cosby. I have never read a quote that the situations of these poor Blacks is 'PURELY' a result of their own doing. But he has repeated over and over again that there are things we can do to cchange our situation, and one of the first things...
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Re: The Injustice Bill Cosby Won't See By Michael E. Dyson

Blake Manner ·
Since I was challenged to provide Cosby quotes, I can just go from source to source to provide Cosby's side of the issue. Tavis: Let me put some context to our conversation. But there are a few quotes that you made at this speech a week or so ago that have been pretty much everywhere. And for those who have been reading or hearing about this, let me just read some of these things, and I want to let you say what you want to say about it. But I picked a few of them out. Here's the first one.
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Re: AT IT AGAIN ~ Cosby playing HNIC

Nmaginate ·
Damn. And after all that time I thought you were trying to defend Bill Cosby. Come to find out, you're here to defend Bill Clinton . No. What you just said wasn't addressed was some odd sh*t: "The father is never quoted talking about how hard it is as a father." Again, you and I both know that's not what got Cosby all riled up. And the story talking about how Mark was there emotionally, supportively for Marcus is all about the responsibility a father has to his son. Your problem and Cosby's...
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Re: What Cosby Actually Said

Blake Manner ·
Ok, I'll edit my last statement: But when you start calling Cosby names like Uncle Tom and against Black America and whatever other insulting adjectives you've used to describe the man (like his comments are just a manner of SELF LOATHING), that shit pisses me off, because you're just ignoring the issues. I don't know what the dropout rate is, and yes I doubt (and I pray) that its 50%. Here's how I heard it explained:...
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Re: What Cosby Actually Said

Nmaginate ·
Dude, you are late again. I done already posted stuff to that effect. When I said Cosby was ILLITERATE and when you failed to address that very issue (Cosby's belligerent INACCURACY) then I highlighted and quoted some of that very same stuff. You should never even fix your mouth to complain about me or anyone "ignoring" your posts when you have this recurring issue with ignoring and completely disregarding factual information posted only to come back with uncanny irony and emphasize the very...
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Re: Poll: Cosby's Impact

Blake Manner ·
Cosby's message still being ignored http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/2...100346/1006/OPINIONS Here's a scoop for you, America: Bill Cosby has a hard time getting his message out. "The media love to choose what they want to use," he said. "I can't go door-to-door to tell everyone what I really mean." But Dr. William H. Cosby Jr., Ph.D. Ed., did manage to get a hold of your humble scribe on my cell phone on a Friday afternoon during my vacation, scoring some rare cool...
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Re: AT IT AGAIN ~ Cosby playing HNIC

Blake Manner ·
Re: AT IT AGAIN ~ Cosby playing HNIC
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Re: Jackson invites Cosby

EbonyRose ·
sunnubian, I can completely respect your opinion on this. The reason for your anger/frustration is very clear. However, I find a lot of assumptions in what you're saying -- personal assumptions -- which you have every right to ... but if they are indeed unduly asserted, then your argument against him isn't really justified. First of all, how can you possibly know what he knows, what he has seen, where he has been, who he has/has not talked to in his life? No one, but perhaps his wife, can...
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Re: Jackson invites Cosby

sunnubian ·
________________________________________ First let me say too, that I really do respect your point of view, opinions, and all of the insightful information that you post on this board (especially your "Africa Watch"), but again, ." Cosby acknowledged he wasn't critiquing all > blacks- just "the 50 percent of African Americans in the lower economic . . .who drop out of school," and the alarming proportions of > black men in prison and black teenage mothers." ---------------- I agree...
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Re: More Likely Black People Should be Angry With Our Own Leadership!

Michael ·
KATRINA'S AFTERMATH NBC Deletes Rap Star's Remarks on Telethon By Matea Gold and Scott Collins, Times Staff Writers September 4, 2005 Kanye West's impromptu attack on President Bush during a live telecast Friday prompted NBC to delete his remark in its West Coast broadcast of the benefit for hurricane victims. "George Bush doesn't care about black people," West said. The rap star also criticized coverage of the catastrophe. "I hate the way they portray us in the media," West said. "If you...
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Re: Trickle-Down Economics/"Small Gov't"

JanesT ·
"The reality is that personal change without structural change is futile" Structural change was defined primarily as prolonging affirmative action, presumably to bring more blacks into the mainstream, which then is seen as a structural change. Picture some of the folks you've seen in the hood, perhaps a welfare mom or someone who hasn't finished school or has a long rap sheet, and lives day to day. This is not everyone by any means, but there are plenty like that. Would that person be a good...
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Re: BET.SOS

HeruStar ·
I hope you have some pepper for that stupid stuff you just said. I'm certain you'll be eating those words. Kanye will still sell, and continue to be 10 times more productive than you. Let me get you started on that meal. [QUOTE]The last week's been quite a doozy for Kanye (see "T.I., David Banner Get Behind Kanye's Bush Comments"), but one that'll be capped off by a crowning achievement: West's sophomore album, Late Registration, opens at #1 on next week's Billboard albums chart, having sold...
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Re: Cosby Bringing His Issues To Compton

Isome ·
Here's Barbara Ehrenreich with how wrong she thinks his now numerous temper tantrums are: As for the black youth who so exercise Cosby, their pregnancy rates aren't "soaring," as he reportedly claimed; in fact, they're lower than they've been in decades. Ditto with crime rates. And if Cosby's worried about poor grammar and so forth, why isn't he ranting about the Bush 2005 budget , which would end a slew of programs for dropout prevention, recreation and school counseling? Or, if he's...
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Re: The Worst Case Republican Scenario

Nmaginate ·
And your inability to grasp simple concepts, things expressed in plain English is all the more underwhelmingly boring... STRUCTURAL RACISM, simply, is how the way American society is ordered to where in this post-Civil Rights era, it is Black people who have to migrate to White spaces, spaces where Whites are already privileged. Again, there is no effective choice in this matter. For success, for opportunity, Blacks must seek those opportunities, again, in those White spaces. That's the way...
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Re: Conservative Idiots

Michael ·
....There is certainly more than enough blame to go around, be it the actions of the wealthy to oppress the poverty stricken, the greed and sleaze of the liberals, and/or the corruption of government at every level within the U.S., corruption from the inner-city to the Halls of Congress, the message is being spread, and the world is listening. ******************* "Can't fight this power From Baghdad to Baltimore, Big Boi, Young Jeezy and countless upstart rappers are changing the world. By...
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Re: Are you a Knowledge Master?

umbrarchist ·
I'm sorry but this isn't quite clear. It's the entire last paragraph. It is almost as if it was written by a different person than everything that preceeded it. That "teaching to the test" is the "training" I'm talking about. I'm a college dropout though I won a National Merit Scholarship, so I am not much of a believer in school. It tends to be paying people to waste your time to get some credentials, but the corporations won't hire you without credentials. umbra
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Re: Why Is So Much of Africa Poor and Underdeveloped?

umbrarchist ·
I watched a program on PBS called THE AFRICANS in which an African professor toured the continent and talked about the history of each country and the then current conditions. What struck me was a term he used, "quenched." He went to a hotel and showed the plumbing system. The hot water did not work and he said often the electricity did not work. Maintaining these systems requires knowledge and parts. As a repairman since 1972 and Electrical Engineering dropout I know most of these palefaces...
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Re: Why Is So Much of Africa Poor and Underdeveloped?

Michael ·
"Yeah, there is that and a willful ignorance, perhaps born of unquestioning belief in mainstream Western sources of information." ..and just like the inept Black leadership within the U.S., Black Africa has its own issues of inept Black leadership, to which much of the western sources of information are again quite valid, in that.... "....... carry luggage for whites and get referred to as BUCKO ......oh mammy...the happy days are here again....... oh maaammy .............." by Kevin41...
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Re: REPARATIONS MOVEMENT IN TROUBLE

Dusty Elbow ·
Forum focuses on aid to black male students By DWIGHT R. WORLEY dworley@lohud.com THE JOURNAL NEWS (Original publication: March 31, 2006) MOUNT VERNON "” When it comes to black males, public education is a broken system that needs to be restructured to ensure an equal education for all students. That was the sentiment of many parents and educators who attended a forum yesterday at Mount Vernon High School to discuss black males in public schools. At the African American Men of Westchester's...
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Re: Black Names Don't Get Called Employment Study Shows

obvious_1 ·
My friend I don't think you read my response correctly because your statement doesn't make sense. I said with all the black millionaires today why aren't there more black corporations. We need more Magic Johnsons and Bob Johnsons. As far as what I am doing to build the black economy. I have a plan. I'm a college dropout. I was still able to obtain a decent paying occupation. I own my own home. I am able to provide my children with the things they need and some of the things they want. I have...
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Re: Black Men vs. Women in Colleges

isistah ·
In order to attend college, you have to graduate from high school. I don't know about the rest of the country, but in my town (the same town where you attend college, 00Negro) the dropout rate is steadily increasing and the rite of passage to manhood is not to go to college and obtain a profession, but to go to jail and obtain a rep. This is a city in decline, with businesses and the middle class racing to leave for the suburbs leaving a core citzenry of the unemployed, underemployed, and...
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Re: Black Men vs. Women in Colleges

isistah ·
I just heard on the news that the dropout rate among black males here is 79%. That's seventy-nine percent.
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Re: Black Men vs. Women in Colleges

RadioRaheem ·
you must live in a very small town with 6-10 people in it. From the US Census website http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/02statab/educ.pdf No. 209 - percent blk males HS grad 78.7%...Blk female 78.3% (note, there are more blk men grads than female ones) College degree/grads - Blk men 16.3% and blk women 16.7%....i thought many blk women were saying that they [blk women] graduate from college at a 10 to 1 ratio to the blk man??? that's a load of bull and the census proves it.
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Re: Computer Chips and You

Kweli4Real ·
Gosh, Does the name Padilla sound familiar? If not, he is the 8th grade dropout, Chicago gang-banger that was named an "enemy combatant" after being accused (based on rumor and innuendo) of attempting to create a "dirty bomb." He is currently being held, without charges, without access to counsel, while awaiting a military tribunal. But unlike the other captives in the "War on Terrorism" he is also a US citizen. So it appears that given the right circumstance, the constitution doesn't have...
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Re: Reagan's 'legacy' was built on the anger of white men

Kevin41 ·
Thats okay...he talks that schit....but just like his klan-raised inbred ancestors, he has to hide behind a keyboard just like they his behind a mask......MBM is right...they do think they are entitled to something...believe me, I have had interview panels tell me after the fact how white applicants protested my appointment over them for a given position......given the relative gap between our credentials, I would not even be invited to an interview as a black man with some of their sorry...
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Re: Airing our dirty laundry?

EbonyRose ·
AudioGuy, Although there is no concrete proof of any specific benefits, it has at least sparked a discussion that otherwise wasn't being had. I would hope that such a discussion would motivate people who would otherwise be sitting around talking about or ignoring those "poor people" to action. During the height of the discussion, many groups and organizations that are actually out there helping such "poor people" came to the light. Of course, the media didn't give them big airtime, but at...
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Re: Bill Cosby Urges Black Students to Study

Nmaginate ·
Now it's rather ironic how in any other conversation we feel like we are underserved by our government (as Black people) yet we don't have the ability to connect the idiocy of Cosby's statements with the prevailing attitudes among Whites who run our government with our money. And that's the biggest problem here. The DISCONNECT! For the sake of church member nods for Cosby citing one of our (non-exclusive) sins we act like there is not only no cosequence to his narrow and aimless,...
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Re: Bill Cosby Urges Black Students to Study

Nmaginate ·
What I said about an old condemning preacher was right! *ALL* the Shaniquas, Mohammeds, etc. EBONY!! "ALL"... Spoken just like your run of the mill Rent-a-Racist! And of course the ready refrain of White people are not to blame, etc. straight from the White Pages!! Apparently, years of racism are of no consequence. Black people are SuperPEOPLE. Impervious to everything. Everything just bounces right off of us. And even while WHITE SUPREMACY exist we're still in complete control of every...
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Re: Bill Cosby Urges Black Students to Study

EbonyRose ·
And us hearing that is suppose to do what? I'm still waiting for this Magical Osmosis to set in that you Cosby-ites keep referring to - as if "hearing" those words from him or whoever are some magic-action elixir, let alone something new. It should first alarm you, and then it should make you consider finding a young man, perhaps in jail or out, who is living under the conditions Cosby talked about, and mentor him, talk to him, care about him and try to present him with a positive outlook.
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Re: Bill Cosby Urges Black Students to Study

Nmaginate ·
It should first alarm you, Ebony? Why should I be "alarmed" so to speak about something I am well aware of? Bill Cosby said nothing new. He can talk all he wants but he needs to get his sh!t straight and like I pointed about about what Canada said... take that sh!t beyond condemnation. "God is tired of you!" WTF??? is that? Huh, Ebony? What is that but some BS, judgemental, elists BS!? That is, of course, unless you believe that no such young men exist. In which case, you should just sit...
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Re: Bill Cosby Urges Black Students to Study

Nmaginate ·
You can act like you want to take it personal all you want. But when someone says something as silly as you did, using the most ridiculous deductions as you have - deductions not based on anything I've said - then you or whoever deserves to be called IDIOTIC for trying to use such weak and irrelevant rhetoric to make an asinine point. Check this... quote me where I've said any of the things you questioned in the way you tried to suggest in idiotic, absolutist extremes. e.g. Where did I say:...
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Re: Hair snobs

OhBlackButterfly ·
~And exacty what message would that be, GoldenCurlyLocks? A two-faced message? A double-standard message? A do-as-I-say-not-what-I-do message? I'm arguing the message with the messenger because you have nothing substantial to stand on as I see it. White supremacy exists. Stop pretending that I'm denying that. You do NOT have white supremacy to stand your argument upon. It's entirely too flimsy. I have no idea what the "strawman" thing is, but if it has anything to do with cleverly avoiding...
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Re: Hair snobs

Oshun Auset ·
Golden curly locks... I dont think so, my hair is very dark brown, almost black. Now it wouldn't be very nice or relevent for me to call you "fried, dyed, and laid to the side" would it? Yes, and effects the beauty standard that women(in particular because of gender oppression) are expected to live up to by the greater society, and it also gets internalized. You have repeatedly denied, excused, and danced around it's effects on the 'hair issue' and that it exists as a social context. You...
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Re: Black Women, Welfare, and Personal Responsibility

NSpirit ·
From the Brookings Institute, but useful nonetheless: Interview: Welfare reform, 10 years later Ron Haskins, Senior Fellow, Economic Studies The Examiner August 24, 2006 "” WASHINGTON - In his new book, "Work Over Welfare: The Inside Story of the 1996 Welfare Reform Law", Ron Haskins, a senior fellow at The Brookings Institution and co-director of Brookings' Center on Children and Families, provides first-hand insight into the history of and political machinations behind the 1996 Welfare...
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Re: Bill Cosby Urges Black Students to Study

EbonyRose ·
Faheem ... I don't know where we got off track here, but you have my train going in a whole totally different direction! As I'm reading, I'm trying to figure out what I said that gave you the impressions you do. I am going to attempt to explain my views as eloquently as you just did ... because I do much better understand your position now! I think. No, no, no. I do not believe that one is the cause of the other. When I said two separate problems, that's exactly what I meant. To be clear, I...
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Re: Saggy pants lead to passenger's arrest

EbonyRose ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: A while back, a few years ago, I broke down the reasons why our young people wear their pants sagging down. The reason I gave was that grown folks didn't have enough sense to instill ritual and tradition in our children.Sooo you can blame this kid and say he should be grown up, BUT fact of the matter is while we as grown people point the finger at this boy FIVE are pointing back at us for not doing what we as grown folks should be doing. Just reminding y'all. . .
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Re: Reporter's Notebook: Helping Students Succeed in Detroit

Xumbrarchist ·
Searched the article for "reading" and "science" and neither word turned up. I am not reading the article. Xum
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Re: 5-Year-Old Cuffed and Charged With Assault

EbonyRose ·
Today in Police Brutality: 5-Year-Old Cuffed and Charged with Assault Michael Davis is a hyperactive 5-year-old diagnosed with ADHD who frequently gets into fights at school. His mother calls him an "energetic, loving, good kid" who is misunderstood by school administrators at Rio Calaveras Elementary of Stockton, California. They disagree, frequently complaining to his divorced parents that he is a discipline problem. When the school didn't see any improvement, they took matters in their...
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Re: 5-Year-Old Cuffed and Charged With Assault

Kocolicious ·
First of all, I don't BELIEVE in medicating children that YOUNG!!! Secondly, school officials are too quick to handcuff our children instead of using the tools and skills they went to college and supposedly trained for. Whatever happened to go to the corner? Whatever happened to time out and then contacting parents before sending him off to a psychiatric hospital? Whatever happen to steps to mitigate the problem prior to giving up and calling the police? On a five-year old? GTFOH!! See we...
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Re: A simple view of Black unemployment, Without the BS

EbonyRose ·
I, too, agree wholeheartedly. However ... unfortunately, it's not just our "youth" for whom proper job-training education is lacking. There are a LARGE number of Black young adults , in their 20s and early 30s .... with whom this unconscionable "dropout rate" began (a generation or so ago) who are effectively "unemployable" and are part of whom the CBC and others are trying to concentrate their job creation efforts that we should not forget about, as well. Trying to keep "kids" in school is...
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Re: Louisiana Makes Bold Bid To Privatize Public Education

sunnubian ·
African America is going to have to see where they stand on this issue. On the one hand, our children would be better off if we could open our own schools in our own communities (and Churches). On the other hand, if we assist in de-funding public schools, where will our children be educated at when they change the game on us? (and they always do). Or, should African Americans fight like hell against this, which is going nationwide, and do whatever it takes to make ALL Public Schools better...
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Re: Louisiana Makes Bold Bid To Privatize Public Education

Yemaya ·
That is bold. Where does the left stand on this? Will they try to block this privatization of the school system? I predict if Louisiana passes this, it will be a matter of months before every state tries the same thing. And illiteracy will be back at 1789 America.
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Re: Louisiana Makes Bold Bid To Privatize Public Education

Yemaya ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: African America is going to have to see where they stand on this issue. On the one hand, our children would be better off if we could open our own schools in our own communities (and Churches). On the other hand, if we assist in de-funding public schools, where will our children be educated at when they change the game on us? (and they always do). Or, should African Americans fight like hell against this, which is going nationwide, and do whatever it takes to...
 
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