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Re: New “Shopping Sheet” Will Make It Easier for Students to “Know Before They Owe”

Muhammad Cipher ·
There are no words to express how stupid this is.
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Re: New “Shopping Sheet” Will Make It Easier for Students to “Know Before They Owe”

sunnubian ·
Actually, you are correct; this in only information that anyone will know anyway upon applying to college and/or for grants and student loans. It seems to me like everyone is evading the real problem and that is all the fly-by-night "colleges" that crop to to drain every dime from any student unlucky enough to enroll and even legitimate colleges that charge unnecessarily enormous tuition and fees all based on what they know ahead of time is what the average student will receive in Pell Grant...
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Re: Obama To Announce New Initiative To Boost Black Educational Outcomes

Yemaya ·
I'm just a little skeptical because it is an election year.
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Re: Obama To Announce New Initiative To Boost Black Educational Outcomes

Muhammad Cipher ·
This is after his administration cut the amount of federal aid from college students from 9 years to 6 total. Where aid has been for many one of the primary reasons why Black people struggle in HBCU's This is an election year announcment nothing more. Sadly he has a history of announcing programs and initatives that never materialize which can't be blamed on conservitives blocking him.
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Re: New “Shopping Sheet” Will Make It Easier for Students to “Know Before They Owe”

Muhammad Cipher ·
Many people are doing (see massive increases in Jr. College enrollment) but it doesn't begin to get at the real issue which is that Education (all levels) is NOT a "consumer good". Reading the article you could replace the word college with dishwasher without missing a beat. Politicians don't want to address the central issue, but it doesn't mean we cant either. Education (upto and including college) is a "right" and not a consumer good to be treated like a commodity on the market or subject...
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Re: New “Shopping Sheet” Will Make It Easier for Students to “Know Before They Owe”

EbonyRose ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: Actually, you are correct; this in only information that anyone will know anyway upon applying to college and/or for grants and student loans. Actually, this appears to be information similar to what they are now putting on credit card statements. And would, in fact, be helpful, if people actually paid attention to such info and considered it wisely. Most people don't realize - or think about - when they take out loans or receive credit that, while your credit...
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Re: New “Shopping Sheet” Will Make It Easier for Students to “Know Before They Owe”

Muhammad Cipher ·
"..............If they don't have to." And therein lies the problem. They do. I couldn't embed the 1st clip that explains how student loan debt is now beyond that of credit card debts in the US. http://www.rdwolff.com/content...r-wolff-student-debt And how are some female students dealing with this?
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Re: New “Shopping Sheet” Will Make It Easier for Students to “Know Before They Owe”

EbonyRose ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: "..............If they don't have to." And therein lies the problem. They do. That's not necessarily true. Most students are offered a combination of Pell Grant funds + LOANS to cover the cost of their tuition each year. One of the biggest mistakes that pretty much ALL students make is that they accept the FULL amount of LOAN money offered to them ... and use the excess funds for things other than school-related items. (I just watched a House hearing on...
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Re: New “Shopping Sheet” Will Make It Easier for Students to “Know Before They Owe”

Muhammad Cipher ·
The short segment was a snapshot of the monthly update which goes into more detail. The point I was making is that the problem isn't with who's doing what with the student loans. Its the fact that loans are necessassary in the first place. This is a direct result of education being treated as a "consumer good". Principal rates, compound intrest, borrowing and lending are NOT at all necessary to education (or the university system). They are a fucntion of the "market based" model of...
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Re: Obama To Announce New Initiative To Boost Black Educational Outcomes

Xumbrarchist ·
How about an Android App for that? It runs on my Nexus 7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTH0dI-Nzho The free version is good enough for basic electricity. Xum
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Re: Obama To Announce New Initiative To Boost Black Educational Outcomes

sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: I'm just a little skeptical because it is an election year. I'm a little skeptical because there are not specifics.
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Re: Obama To Announce New Initiative To Boost Black Educational Outcomes

Xumbrarchist ·
When has there ever been and "Educational Initiative" that suggested a National Recommended Reading List? 100 books for kindergarten, 200 books for 1st graders, 300 books for 2nd graders, ... By 12 grade that would still be less than 10,000 books. I am not talking about kids reading all of them I am saying they should have a excellent selection to choose from and not have to wade through garbage. How many kids want to learn but are not getting worthwhile suggestions from adults? Xum
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Re: Obama To Announce New Initiative To Boost Black Educational Outcomes

EbonyRose ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: Originally Posted by Yemaya: I'm just a little skeptical because it is an election year. I'm a little skeptical because there are not specifics. ================================= Yep, me too, Sunnubian!! This is the only article I've been able to find that somewhat gives a few more details. And while it sounds to me like just another "commission" that will (again) study/review/deliberate/talk about the problems of the (non)education of our children .... if...
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Re: Obama To Announce New Initiative To Boost Black Educational Outcomes

sunnubian ·
Yeah, it sounds like just more talk about studying a commission to put together a group to discuss a meeting on hosting a talk where people will put together a panel to discuss the probability of discussing . . .
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Re: Obama To Announce New Initiative To Boost Black Educational Outcomes

EbonyRose ·
And then there will be a dialogue ......
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Re: Obama To Announce New Initiative To Boost Black Educational Outcomes

Yemaya ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: Yeah, it sounds like just more talk about studying a commission to put together a group to discuss a meeting on hosting a talk where people will put together a panel to discuss the probability of discussing . . . I can give you several websites where they are already discussing this, but are mostly doing nothing. . .
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Re: Obama To Announce New Initiative To Boost Black Educational Outcomes

Xumbrarchist ·
What are "Educational Outcomes"? If we force kids to study books full of worthless information then test them on the worthless information and they do well on the tests, isn't that an EDUCATIONAL OUTCOME? What good is it? So why don't we have our own National Recommended Reading List and say to hell with whatever garbage the palefaces throw together? They have to explain why they claim double-entry accounting was invented in Italy 700 years ago and yet as far as I know, no European country...
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Re: Obama To Announce New Initiative To Boost Black Educational Outcomes

Norland ·
This is all well and good. I don't care how smart you are; how many degrees you obtain; how well you enunciate your words; how sharp you dress; how much money you earn. You're still going to end up working for some CAUCASIAN, and throughout your entire working life, you won't get through one, single day, without wanting to chock a couple. Guaranteed!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Obama To Announce New Initiative To Boost Black Educational Outcomes

Norland ·
Slorry, choke. You know what I mean. Chock; choke, you'll want to do it.
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Re: Obama To Announce New Initiative To Boost Black Educational Outcomes

Xumbrarchist ·
So why haven't we created a Reading List? Why don't we have a table for when children should become familiar with certain ideas? At what age should they know the structure of the atom. When should they know what photosynthesis is? etc. Do we need palefaces to tell us what education is? These cheap computers give us the ability to totally short circuit the paleface controlled educational system. We may just have to pay to get credentials not knowledge. Xum
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

EbonyRose ·
I never in my wildest dreams imagined that charter schools would become a capitalistic enterprise and take off (multiply) like they have!!
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

Yemaya ·
Originally Posted by EbonyRose: I never in my wildest dreams imagined that charter schools would become a capitalistic enterprise and take off (multiply) like they have!! Well parents are FRUSTRATED with the current public school system.
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by EbonyRose: I never in my wildest dreams imagined that charter schools would become a capitalistic enterprise and take off (multiply) like they have!! Im not sure if that is sarcasm or not. After spending years of attacking "all things Government" (while ignoring real issues with the US Government) people are seeing what happens when everything necessary for society to function is turned into a market based 'fee for service'. While every group that starts a charter school...
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

Xumbrarchist ·
So can the so called Charter School figure out what to do with these cheap tablets or are we going to sit back and let them do mind control games with information control? This technology provides options for bypassing any White controlled educational system. But what will we do? Xum
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

EbonyRose ·
No, MC .... that wasn't meant to be the least bit sarcastic!! As I usually do, I said (exactly) what I meant and meant what I said!! (Although you never believe that! ) At the first mention of "charter schools" (several years ago), I was HIGHLY opposed to the thought of them .... mostly because I didn't understand the concept - nor did I trust it. All I knew is that White people were in favor of it ... which meant it probably wasn't a good thing (for us)!! I held FIRMLY to the thought that...
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

Xumbrarchist ·
Originally Posted by EbonyRose: In my initial introductions, I read about two all-Black charter schools that were started on the East Coast that took "at risk" kids (through a lottery) and were developing them into soon-to-be high school graduates who were excelling at their school work ... and breaking down all the stereotypes that are attached to our kids - that they can't learn, that they're from too bad an atmosphere to be successful, that they don't strive for excellence, etc. And since...
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

Muhammad Cipher ·
This is actually why I asked at first. It wasn't to be condescending in the least. I support Black institutions of just about every form. From childcare/homeschooling to Black research universities. Capitalism and white supremacy are closely related. One need not be "white" to to get caught up in the crazy and devastating effects of capitalism any more than one need be white to suffer from the effect of white supremacist thinking. The "market ideology" has been so normalized that people see...
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

EbonyRose ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: The "market ideology" has been so normalized that people see it as the only way to construct or approach solving any problems. Not noticing that its almost NEVER a means to solve anything. It AT BEST provides a cooping mechanism for the people while the problem continues. I agree with you, MC. However .... my thoughts about this are that .... while, yes, companies have "normalized" this nation's current "market ideology" for their own financial benefit...
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

Shango67 ·
The backlash against charter schools is fueled by the pro-union-political-education-complex; a movement that has nothing to do with educating children and more to do with keeping adults employed.
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

sunnubian ·
Charter schools have been hijacked by corporate interests and the right, whose plan it was all along to fund the private schools that cropped up all over America, especially in the south, after integration had been made law, which also serves as backdoor way to de-fund public education and privatize education in America.
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

Xumbrarchist ·
Originally Posted by Shango67: The backlash against charter schools is fueled by the pro-union-political-education-complex; a movement that has nothing to do with educating children and more to do with keeping adults employed. ROFL I bet that is true on both side. It is about MONEY and to hell with education. But it makes good propaganda for the charter school cause. Educators could have created a National Recommended Reading List for kids decades before we had cheap computers. But when do...
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

Shango67 ·
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/o...XIUz0iN5ldTuSrFWcVJN
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

Yemaya ·
I'm tired of these NY schools. For many, many reasons. But I don't think that there isn't any reason that we can't take over school districts in our neighborhoods.
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

EbonyRose ·
Originally Posted by Shango67: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/o...XIUz0iN5ldTuSrFWcVJN That was a very good article!! While some will say that it was (obviously) slanted to be in favor of the charter school system .... the bottom line for me is RESULTS !! If these schools are producing the kind of academic excellence - especially for OUR children - and especially in math and science - (where I believe the future job market for the better, more higher-paying jobs is heading) - that the FACTS...
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

EbonyRose ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: I'm tired of these NY schools. For many, many reasons. But I don't think that there isn't any reason that we can't take over school districts in our neighborhoods. The only reason I can think of is that it would take a UNIFIED effort on the part of the parents to demand a better educational experience for their children. Even if it was just at the neighborhood or individual school district level. And, unfortunately, as a people, we're just not there yet.
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

Yemaya ·
And let's not forget about black homeschoolers.
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

Shango67 ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: I'm tired of these NY schools. For many, many reasons. But I don't think that there isn't any reason that we can't take over school districts in our neighborhoods. I am all for community control of schools and school districts. However, Black people gave away the prospect of controlling how their children are educated when the masses of our people turned to integration as a liberating ideology. With that said, until FREEDOM SCHOOLS make a come back, the charter...
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

Shango67 ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: And let's not forget about black homeschoolers. Not against homeschooling, just not sure the masses are in the position to prepare our children to reach the mastery needed to be power brokers in today's global economy. This is not to say that our people are not smart, intelligent, or intellectually gifted.... we are. However, I deeply believe that today's mothers and fathers, who in many cases themselves are victims of poor performing school systems, do not have...
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

Shango67 ·
Letter I wrote to my teachers and staff. It is the first of many this year that I will write as part of my weekly announcements. I share this with you because the motivation I have to do this job, was once compromised when I had the unfortunate task of working in a public school where teachers abused sick time, stole supplies earmarked for kids, refused to unpack boxes of new text books because doing so was a violation of the union contract, reported late to school, stood in front of kids...
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

Muhammad Cipher ·
Interesting. Im not, and don't claim any deep familiarity with the NYC public school system. However, the problems that exist with public education do share some commonalities across the country. I'll be honest, I am a bit cautious and suspicious of the lines of reasoning that places teachers unions as the or even a primary obstacle in lieu of the entire design and interactive functioning of the educational system. This isn't directed at Shango (or anyone) in particular, I note this because...
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

Shango67 ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: This from a person who supports Black homeschooling, Independent Black schools and the like. Cultivation of knowledge to better develop and serve the community is a VERY different objective than acquiring knowledge to gain competitive advantage in a "Global Market". The first is attainable and sustainable. The second is an illusion that serves to justify and reproduce the existing social dynamic. I fully agree, Muhammed. Thank your for pointing out that...
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Re: The 'Separate-but-Equal' Charter School Scam

EbonyRose ·
Originally Posted by Shango67: I believe education in our community should be for the purpose of service and not as a component of advancing capitalism. I do believe, however, that our children should also be educated to be power brokers aimed at dismantling the existing social dynamic / behavior modality of white supremacy. In other words, I am for Africans being empowered, with power, throughout the diaspora. AMEN to THAT!!!
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Re: Obama To Announce New Initiative To Boost Black Educational Outcomes

Xumbrarchist ·
Modern Higher Education http://www.smbc-comics.com/ind...b=comics&id=2729 Xum
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Re: Minority Schoolkids Aware of Racial Stigmas

EbonyRose ·
Great article!!! I guess in the final analysis ..... the results show that the school system is what's ruining our kids!!! Our kids are not ruining themselves !!!
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Re: ACLU alleges Michigan school district violated students’ ‘right to learn to read’

Yemaya ·
No Child Left Behind. . . THANKS G.W. Bush!
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Re: ACLU alleges Michigan school district violated students’ ‘right to learn to read’

Xumbrarchist ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: No Child Left Behind. . . THANKS G.W. Bush! If no children make any progress then none are left behind. Xum
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Re: More Blacks Than Ever to Teach for America

Yemaya ·
They need jobs... that's a no brainer.
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Re: More Blacks Than Ever to Teach for America

EbonyRose ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: According to Teach for America, more than 48,000 people applied to the program this year, including 1 in 4 seniors at Spelman, 11 percent of the graduating class at Clark Atlanta University, 10 percent at Hampton University and at Morehouse College, 8 percent at Howard, 6 percent at the University of Michigan-Ann Arbor and 4 percent at the University of Florida. At the Ivy League schools, 1 in 7 African American seniors applied. WOW!!! I think this is GREAT...
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Re: How to Destroy Education While Making a Trillion Dollars

Xumbrarchist ·
OK, I have to put in my two cents. The fact of the matter is that a tablet or netbook that costs $300 or less but is more powerful than a mainframe that cost $3,000,000 in 1980. I really don't think people get this. The mainframe was the IBM 3033. I took a maximum of 32 megabytes of memory and that was regarded as A LOT until around 1990. But now a smartphone comes with more than 512 megabytes. Think about that! Smartphones come with SIXTEEN TIMES as much memory as mainframes from the 80s.
 
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