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Re: Dynamics of Domination: 6 Steps Arabs and Europeans Used to Establish Dominion Over Black People

Xumbrarchist ·
Talking about wealth and natural resources without talking about science and technology is TOTAL NONSENSE! Is oil out of the ground a natural resource or a worthless nuisance? It depends on whether or not you have the knowledge and technology to use it. But see how many Black people will give you a hard time about reading about science and technology. Xum
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Re: Dynamics of Domination: 6 Steps Arabs and Europeans Used to Establish Dominion Over Black People

Norland ·
Control of the Wealth? They made the wealth on our cotton-picking behinds, if I'm not mistaken. They made the wealth by not paying us one red dime for 300 years!! We're still begging for "equal" anything. How in the hell are we supposed to practice African culture, when most of us know absolutely NOTHING about Africa except what we read in National Geographic or see on Youtube. I can barely spell Swahili, let alone speak the language or any other language spoken on the continent. I've never...
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Re: Dynamics of Domination: 6 Steps Arabs and Europeans Used to Establish Dominion Over Black People

Kocolicious ·
Number 7 : Religious Brainwashing[using other folks version to justify slavery and inferiority]...Remember Arabs adopted a lot of their principles in the bible as their own[Moses]..so it's has always been a historic collaboration among the three main belief systems to document their interpretation of slavery Number 8 . Self-Hate [hating the color of skin and texture of hair] Number 9 . Men against Women i.e. men unrealistic image and expectation of black women which will ultimately...
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Re: Dynamics of Domination: 6 Steps Arabs and Europeans Used to Establish Dominion Over Black People

Xumbrarchist ·
Stealing Africa - Why Poverty? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNYemuiAOfU Xum
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Re: This Is Amazing!

Kocolicious ·
Yeah I heard about this guy a few months ago. I saw a little documentary on him. Yes he is amazing. When God takes something from you, what is given back is truly beyond belief. As in this case. But!
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Re: FAT FLUSH WATER !!!

Yemaya ·
I drink 3 liters of water a day straight no chaser.
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sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: I drink 3 liters of water a day straight no chaser.
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

James Wesley Chester ·
I agree. How? Everytime I have considered a solution for the problem, it came down to the same thing. Money. We are...essentially...followers. Most people are. Success in the effort REQUIRES money. It is the vote that exercises the ultimate power. A political action committee (PAC) enables both. Starting first with a national PAC, then extending into every State and Protectorate seems the strategic thing to do. Now what? PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
Actually, JWC ... and I don't mean for this to sound as condescending as it probably does, but I believe that what you're suggesting is a bit too complicated for us to handle at this time. Nor can we really afford to wait for the implementation of such a complex process to be formed and take hold. IMO, the simplicity of exercising our right to vote is the biggest benefit to being able to immediately implement the power to begin obtaining our goals. As was seen with the election of President...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

James Wesley Chester ·
I think you are missing the point. It is true that all you have to do to be effective with a vote is to do it. How do you make that happen is the point. One is talk. The other is action. Like I said, 'Now What?' There must be an applied method. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
Hmmm ... well, that's the $64,000 question, now isn't it? I'll tell ya, JWC, I don't think there is any one method .. and by extension, answer to that question, really. President Obama was able to do it through a pretty much ground-floor-up grassroots effort of getting the message out (in his case he was selling "hope"). I would think the same kind of effort could be implemented within our community to encourage people to start going to the polls. Some of these newly re-emerging...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Noah The African ·
When I attempted to open this topic……the text did no load in my outdated version of internet explorer that I am running. It was the ONLY topic thread; I kid you not, which would not open. Is that a sign? Is black unity in these times a non-starter that just will not load under the existing framework? I could not read the text until I opened the site using Mozilla’s Firefox browsers. That strange experience notwithstanding, human nature should be understood, first and foremost, as it governs...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
What does UNITY mean in practice? Xum
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
Reference: What does UNITY mean in practice? Being willing to look out for somebody other than yourself. At least it used to ... when we had it. Before integration, we used to didn't have to give consideration to "others" ... other than ourselves. In fact, interaction with Whites was highly discouraged ... 'cause it usually brought on misery and pain. Sometimes death. So Black people consciously looked out for each other ... we knew our neighbors and would come together and helped them out...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Noah The African ·
Looking out for someone other than oneself is not called unity, but rather, compassion and or benevolence. Unity is defined, by disctionary.com, as combining into one. My avatar is a Unity Man carving from Ghana. Are we seeking geographic unity, economic unity, emotional unity, cognitive unity, religious unity, ect, or all of the above? Does unity manifest as willful separation?
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
(i.e., racism, the (in)justice system, discriminatory economic policies, the (mis-)education of our children, etc.) So what has been stopping Black Americans from creating book lists for out children? Wouldn't the NAACP be a good centralized organization to handle that? We act like all education comes from schools which are controlled and certified by Whites. What if 75% of the important information that a person knows comes from outside of White controlled schools. Why should the palefaces...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
Reference: So what has been stopping Black Americans from creating book lists for out children? I believe the reason is because we don't have a long entrenched experience of cloaking our children in education. Free and available access to it is only about a generation or so old. Historically, while our ancestors always fought for, valued and encouraged education that they didn't have for their children, for most of them it just didn't happen that way. Many families couldn't have afforded...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

James Wesley Chester ·
It just needs to be done---EbonyRose Now we are going to analyze 'unity'?? Include all the 'black' people of the world?? The first steps with: 1. some define an entity 2. establish a bank account (treasury) 3. advertise the exist 4. invite participation. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
{{{ Include all the 'black' people of the world?? The first steps with: 1. some define an entity 2. establish a bank account (treasury) 3. advertise the exist 4. invite participation. }}} How about define objectives and admit the obstacles to those objectives both external and internal? How to deal with the DAWGs? [Dumb Ass White Guys] Xum PS - OK, I admit it. I have an ATTITUDE Problem.
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

kresge ·
Reference: So what has been stopping Black Americans from creating book lists for out children? A book list is no substitute for education. Not even close. I have said it before, but I guess that it bears repeating. While there are certainly things to commend about autodidacts, they often do not evince the ability to integrate, assimilate, analyze, and critically evaluate material. Most people need systems and structures to facilitate the schemetization of information and knowledge. In other...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Noah The African ·
I think we were designed to learn biologically, so I disagree that we have to be taught to learn. Observation and emulation (practice) is the most natural and hence efficient means of learning. All animals learn this way and humans don’t get an exception from this rule. The key to learning is INTEREST and receiving pleasure from it. Things one finds pleasure in they will do it as often as possible. People become computer whiz kids because they love playing around with computer code. People...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Raptor ·
Wilson gives an interesting perspective regarding education (among other things) as it pertains to black folks. If you don't mind check this piece out. I am interested in what you all think about his comments regarding education and how might we go about it. (start at the 0:57 point of the clip) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...&feature=related
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
Reference: A book list is no substitute for education. It depends on what you think education means. To me education means the acquisition of relevant knowledge . Now that can be done by schooling but that does not mean it is the only way. We tend to assume that people got their knowledge of a particular subject from schooling but how can you ever know? You only see the result. Now if the grade schools kill children's curiosity and knowledge must be forced in after that then schooling is...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
Reference by JWC: Now we are going to analyze 'unity'?? Include all the 'black' people of the world?? The first steps with: 1. some define an entity 2. establish a bank account (treasury) 3. advertise the exist 4. invite participation. Whoa there, Mr. Chester! You're putting the cart before my horse, here! At least at this moment in time, what I am suggesting is not on that big of a scale! Ultimately achieving a 'world-wide' unity of African people everywhere is a goal we need to strive for.
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
Reference: If you don't mind check this piece out. I am interested in what you all think about his comments regarding education and how might we go about it. It sounds to me like what he is talking about is something we would need our own schools where we teach our own children to accomplish. Fortunately, that type of education is already taking place in various areas around the country. Unfortunately, the scale of such educational platforms are few ... and only a limited number of our...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
This is an interview with Queen Latifah (conducted by Tavis Smiley - just a warning for those who have trouble stomaching him! ) ... but, her comments on the problems with educating our children were dead-on. She has become the new ambassador for the Milton Hershey Academy, which provides a stable, effective learning environment for minority and low-income students and gives them opportunities for success that they otherwise wouldn't have. http://www.pbs.org/kcet/taviss...vid=1445283926#video
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

James Wesley Chester ·
My 'action list' is for African America. That's the right scale. Someone else began talking about the world. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Vox ·
Reference: What is needed more than books is a culture that values learning and education, that is not anti-intellectual, and that embraces discursivity. Agreed. And tying this into the concept of "unity," you can't get there (to "unity") except through the use of some sort of centralized process. A book list is a good idea, but anything like that has to be done in the course of compulsory education. The black population here is around 40 million now, and even if you could somehow split that...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Noah The African ·
Well, none of this makes sense to me. Books, list, ect….makes no sense at all to me. Here we are as black people, who originate from a continent that is flourishing with natural resources, who have black presidents and Prime Ministers, legislator’s judicial appointees. It’s strange because the structure that we seek already exists….in Africa. If you water the root the leaves will flourish. The root for black people is Africa, but we don’t water it, but instead, water the roots that grow...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
Reference: If you don't mind check this piece out. I am interested in what you all think about his comments regarding education and how might we go about it. Do you suppose he means something like understanding double-entry accounting which is 700 years old? How hard can it be with today's computers? Does he mean like understanding technology to tell when Whitey is trying to sell us crap designed to become obsolete. That would come under DEPRECIATION in the accounting. Physics affects...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Yemaya ·
The unity of Black Americans AND sovereignty is a complex issue that will require a whole lot of hands on work. However, the first step will be a mind change. This was the first step that our enemies used to destroy us by killing our natural minds. Until we get our minds and children's minds in order we're screwed.
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
Even if we significantly improved 20% of the schools, which I think is highly unlikely, what does that do for the kids at the other 80%? So regardless of the schools these cheap netbooks are a way to reach any kid that can get his hands on one. And a Coby smartbook is supposed to be out for $85 very soon. That isn't even one day's salary for a teacher. So what can be done to stimulate a kid's curiosity with an $85 device? I am not a teacher but I think curiosity is extremely important. Then...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

kresge ·
Reference: So regardless of the schools these cheap netbooks are a way to reach any kid that can get his hands on one. And a Coby smartbook is supposed to be out for $85 very soon. That isn't even one day's salary for a teacher. So what can be done to stimulate a kid's curiosity with an $85 device? I am not a teacher but I think curiosity is extremely important. Then it is more a matter of getting out of the kid's way and answering questions now and then. Xum, This conversation reminds me of...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
I won't bother with the Bible comparison. {{{ I submit that the same problem obtains with respect to giving youth netbooks without instruction. I believe that they would be a powerful add to instruction in a supervised setting, but that in the absence of such, that curiosity is not a sufficient guarantor of a successful experience. }}} So you think I needed instruction besides the manual to build this when I was in grade school? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PeWq6oqeZI That is the funny...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
Physics can be downloaded. Some libraries have wireless. Go in with a netbook and not have to wait on their computers. http://www.lightandmatter.com/area1book1.html But without the device the options are much more limited. Today 11 paperback books cost $88, In 5 to 10 years it will be child abuse for a kid to not have a computer. ROFL Xum
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
Reference by Yemaya: The unity of Black Americans AND sovereignty is a complex issue that will require a whole lot of hands on work. However, the first step will be a mind change. This was the first step that our enemies used to destroy us by killing our natural minds. Until we get our minds and children's minds in order we're screwed. That could be a really long wait.
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
Reference: The trouble with the schools is they try to make you interested in what they decide and competing with other kids is supposed to be a motivator. Like who cares? This is true .. today ... but the reason is because it has been federally mandated for schools, teachers and even students to perform in this manner. Growing up, at every level of education, I had a variety of choices as to what I wanted to learn. And my only real competition was with myself ... not against other students...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
{{{ Added to that is a point that Kresge bought up ... that technology is not our strong suit ... and not only because of the number of our people who are simply uninterested in it (I know several Black people who own computers, but only use it for the one or two things that it serves their purpose for and that's it!) While your special interest in science and technology and sci-fi and self-education is commendable ... and works really well for you ... the reality of the situation is that...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

James Wesley Chester ·
Doesn't that say the last 45 years of variations in cars that roll along the ground at less than 130 mph has been nothing but useless bullshit? So we spent decades going into debt for useless variations. It is late for learning about technology. We should have been on it 40 years ago. I have no patience for people saying we shouldn't be on it now.---Xum This has always been the case...with technology, cars, fuel, medicine, etc. Airplanes have had 'automatic' brakes for decades before cars.
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
Reference: This has always been the case...with technology, cars, fuel, medicine, etc. It hasn't always been the case that you could buy a computer for less than one day's salary for a teacher. It hasn't always been the case that you could carry that computer into a library and access the internet for free. The $85 Coby isn't available yet but it is supposed to happen this spring. So here is a physics book perfectly legal. http://www.lightandmatter.com/area1book1.html Here is an e-book for...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

James Wesley Chester ·
Thanks. Progress is indeed in progress. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
Knowledge is power. Sir Francis Bacon, Religious Meditations, Of Heresies, 1597 English author, courtier, & philosopher (1561 - 1626) Things have changed since 1597. I would say: Relevant knowledge is power. But that creates a strange kind of psychological loop. Knowledge is necessary to figure out what knowledge is relevant. That is the trouble with being a little kid. You show up at school when you are 6 years old with this shiny new brain and have no idea when people are putting...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

James Wesley Chester ·
Reference: So what KNOWLEDGE really gives POWER? So for UNITY and POWER do we need to agree on the RELEVANT KNOWLEDGE?---Xum You determine which knowledge 'gives power'. You determine how the knowledge you select is used. We don't have to agree on that knowledge..., but... The more there is agreement the powerful the knowledge becomes. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
Reference: You determine which knowledge 'gives power'. Knowledge of football and basketball give POWER? How many Black men in prison know a lot about sports? Of course knowing a lot about Harry Potter novels is empowering. Xum
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

kresge ·
Reference: But something like physics does not care about any culture and no culture can defy the laws of physics. I take it that you have never read Thomas Kuhns, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, nor something along the lines of Michel Foucault's, The Order of Things if you believe that science is immune from culture. Logical positivism has is dead end street. Real power in the contemporary context is discursive power. It is the power that shapes peoples worldviews, shapes how they...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

James Wesley Chester ·
Knowledge of football and basketball give POWER? How many Black men in prison know a lot about sports? Of course knowing a lot about Harry Potter novels is empowering.---Xum I believe all knowledge empowers. I do not believe that all power empowers all pursuits. Pick your goals. Select your knowledge to meet the goals. That's a plan that is more likely to succeed. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
Reference: I take it that you have never read Thomas Kuhns,The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, nor something along the lines of Michel Foucault's, The Order of Things if you believe that science is immune from culture. I didn't say science was immune to culture, I said PHYSICS did not CARE about culture. Physics is incapable of caring about anything. Assuming the scientists are correct about an asteroid wiping out the dinosaurs 65,000,000 years ago, did the gravitational influences that...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
Reference: Logical positivism has is dead end street. Real power in the contemporary context is discursive power. It is the power that shapes peoples worldviews, shapes how they see the world, what they value, where they find meaning, etc. And there are lots of people distributing bad information to see that many other people have INCORRECT WORLD VIEWS. All warfare is based on DECEPTION. - Sun Tzu 40 years after the Moon landing and our economists don't talk about the Planned Obsolescence of...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
{{{ Logical positivism is a way of thinking popular in the mid-20th century which attempted to make philosophy more rigorous by creating criteria for evaluating the truth or falsity of certain philosophical statements. Its main criteria for any statement is verifiability, which comes from two different sources: empirical statements, which come from science, and analytic truth, statements which are true or false by definition. Logical positivism heavily influenced philosophy of science,...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

EbonyRose ·
Okay .... well, I read - and re-read this THREE times just to be sure!!! And all I ccan say is .... HALLELUJAH!!!! And I hope SOMEBODY listens to him and is SMART enough to do EXACTLY what he is saying!!! If I had some money, I'd do it just because 1) he said it ... and 2) because it's the right thing to do!! (All except that "give it to the young people" thingy!! Nope ... the "young people" would have to EARN that money ...but they could do so by going to school, learning taking business...
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