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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

sunnubian ·
Obama to host Tuskegee Airmen, cast of 'Red Tails' By Perry Bacon Jr. 3:00 PM on 01/13/2012 READ MORE: Barack Obama , Red Tails , Tuskegee Airmen , George Lucas , World War II COMMENT NOW President Obama and the first lady greet Tuskegee Airmen and the cast of 'Red Tails' at a White House screening (courtesy of the White House) President Obama on Friday afternoon will host the Tuskegee Airmen and the cast and crew of the new film about the pilots called Red Tails for a screening of the movie...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Kocolicious ·
Well...I just found out that Lucas is dating a black woman named Melody. She is the financial analyst on Good Morning America and have had her own show on ABC talking about debt. I say this to say that maybe her input influenced Lucas' decision to make this movie. And maybe he realized that in his own country instead of in fantasy space, there are true life STORIES to be told that many "white" producers don't wanna tell. But! For whatever reason, I am glad that we finally have significant...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Muhammad Cipher ·
Here's hoping the Obama staff don't freak out and hold a press conference denouncing Wu-Tang when Method Man shows up.
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

EbonyRose ·
You know, over the weekend I read this commentary by Roland Martin which he entitled "Hollywood's irrational allergy to "Black" films" where he pretty much did a pretty good job of railing about Hollywood's lack of backing "all Black-cast films." I generally look at Roland Martin as an 'apologist' most of the time and am not impressed by what he has to say - and this time wasn't much different - but I think he did write a good article! However, at the end of it, my thought was that .... it...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Muhammad Cipher ·
Owning a studio isn't the only issue. The issue is in entertainment is distribution. You can own whatever you like, if the distribution channels are locked up between 3 or 4 companies, that's a bigger battle than most people know. It actually goes to the larger issue of media ownership. 5 companies own >90% of the media outlets.
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Kocolicious ·
You know...it ain't rocket science yall. Black consumers are a trillion dollar industry. So I would go independent and just put it out there if I had the mola and talent. Trust me somebody will pick it up. Cuz I'm sure there are those like me who are JUST freaking tired of this white man in a white horse saving the day bullshit while folks are starving to death as a result of his legacy of colonalism. People are now looking for real life topics that correlates with what is happening now or...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

EbonyRose ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: Owning a studio isn't the only issue. The issue is in entertainment is distribution. You can own whatever you like, if the distribution channels are locked up between 3 or 4 companies, that's a bigger battle than most people know. It actually goes to the larger issue of media ownership. 5 companies own >90% of the media outlets. =================================================== Okay. But ..... And .....??? I mean ... again, let me refer back to t he...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Dissident ·
Black folk and the Hollywood propaganda machine are talking about coming out to support Red Tails. But where were they when Spike Lee made Miracle at St. Anna? I wouldn't be so quick to embrace George Lucas. Lucas is the same producer accused of subliminally portraying black charactertures in his movies as buffoons and savages. Lucas knew well in advance whites in Hollywood weren't going to fund this movie, so why the media hype? If black people fail to see what's going on then they're...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Yemaya ·
Dissident, THANK YOU! I thought it was just me with these reservations.
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by Dissident: Black folk and the Hollywood propaganda machine are talking about coming out to support Red Tails. But where were they when Spike Lee made Miracle at St. Anna? I wouldn't be so quick to embrace George Lucas. Lucas is the same producer accused of subliminally portraying black charactertures in his movies as buffoons and savages. Lucas knew well in advance whites in Hollywood weren't going to fund this movie, so why the media hype? If black people fail to see...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Kocolicious ·
Speaking for myself I don't think it's a "white hope" move. But! There is not enough BLACK folks supporting black films and as a result many GOOD black stories don't get TOLD! I just want them TOLD. And told with truth....doesn't matter what race the producer. As a matter of fact, the film COLOR PURPLE wouldn't have gotten its props....if we had waited for a so-called BLACK producer to film it -wasn't gotta happen. And that was an epic film. I ain't waiting no more..that is for black film...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

EbonyRose ·
Mannnnnnnnnnn ..... you are SO right about THAT, Ms. Koco!!! And it's not JUST about (Black) movies or stories about us that Black folks don't/won't support each other in ..... I'm still trying to think of a subject matter where we are willing to "come together for each other" .... and support something that has to do with - and is good for - us. You let some tacky-ass, bleeped-out, scandalous, back-stabbing, 'baffoonis'h-type "reality show" come on TV and Blackfolks will get speeding...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Huey ·
Originally Posted by EbonyRose: Mannnnnnnnnnn ..... you are SO right about THAT, Ms. Koco!!! And it's not JUST about (Black) movies or stories about us that Black folks don't/won't support each other in ..... I'm still trying to think of a subject matter where we are willing to "come together for each other" .... and support something that has to do with - and is good for - us. You let some tacky-ass, bleeped-out, scandalous, back-stabbing, 'baffoonis'h-type "reality show" come on TV and...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Xeon ·
"We will NEVER get our stories told if we wait about for Black people to tell 'em. It may have taken a White man 25 years and his OWN money to produce this BLACK film. But at least SOMEBODY did it!! When a whole lot of other "somebodys" DID NOT!!!" This is very true. Tragically, American Negroes seem content letting others document their history. Their group indifference and apathy is shocking. Not that there is anything wrong with non-black authors writing or directing documentaries about...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Yemaya ·
Of course white people can put out movies about black people. they have set up the economy, the culture and other dynamics to make it so that they have most of the resources. DUH.
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Kocolicious ·
Of course white people can put out movies about black people. they have set up the economy, the culture and other dynamics to make it so that they have most of the resources. DUH. Uh....this is NOT true anymore. There are a lot of black artists that now have the resources to make black movies. Just like the record business with blacks now having their own labels, if BLACKS wanted to they could do the same in the movie industry. We have the internet, easy to use cameras---all it takes is a...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Kocolicious ·
Many years ago I attended a speech by a great American war hero and the commanding officer of the Tuskegee airman, General Benjamin O. Davis Jr. The crowd was 90% white! Another time I went to see a number of Tuskegee airman speak and the results were the same. There was a white woman who had three small children and she ushered them forward to meet with the former pilots. She said to her children, “Listen, theses are great American heroes. Say hello to them” . The Tuskegee airman, one black...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

sunnubian ·
Where was he speaking? Did it cost anything to attend his speech? How much ? Was it advertised in media that catered to African Americans? I have often known of famous African Americans having a speaking engagement in our area, but often, it is not exactly in town, or there is often a heavy charge to see the person (especially if you are talking about carrying your kids), and many of these engagements are known of (happened across) a day or two before the event (giving little or no time to...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Yemaya ·
Basically this entire thing about Hollywood not wanting to put out a film with an all black cast was a marketing campaign. It was the perfect propaganda because it played to black people's sense of injustice and under representation in 'major' films. And some of you fell for it. So now George Lucas the the distribution company are making major cheddar from what has been described as a "Corny" film by Lucas himself.None of the money will be recycled into the pockets of Black America. My...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

EbonyRose ·
Wait .... so are you saying that Hollywood doesn't have an aversion to putting out "all Black-cast movies"?? And that Black people do not feel a sense of injustice and under-representation in major films??? And that Black people should find that kind of discrimination acceptable ??? Did we really "fall" for something that isn't even true or have any basis in reality??
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

sunnubian ·
I don't know if I believe that it was just a marketing campaign on the part of George Lucas because we have known forever that Hollywood does not want to make a Black movie with an all-Black cast. The West and the United States government relies heavily on Hollywood as part of their propaganda machine that keeps people brainwashed and socially conditioned to see White people as moral, upstanding citizens and heroes to the world. Movies like "Red Tails" that show Black males as the heroes...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Xeon ·
"Of course white people can put out movies about black people. they have set up the economy, the culture and other dynamics to make it so that they have most of the resources. DUH." Ha! Ha! Ha! That’s funny. Negroes pick and choose what they want to support and what interest them. Suggesting that whites have unlimited resources for funding and production of movies/documentaries is true. No doubt. But this does not excuse Negroes from being self-imposed spectators while others document their...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Xeon ·
"Uh....this is NOT true anymore. There are a lot of black artists that now have the resources to make black movies. Just like the record business with blacks now having their own labels, if BLACKS wanted to they could do the same in the movie industry. We have the internet, easy to use cameras---all it takes is...........when they can do the EXACT same thang. But as usual we are waiting for massa to give us the heads up. That will NEVER happen." On point!!! You said everything that needs to...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

EbonyRose ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: Movies and documentaries also serve as a peek into who Black people really are, who African Americans really are, what African Americans have really contributed , what African Americans have really sacrificed , and more importantly, true information about Black people's history in America being distributed throughout the general public validates the sadism, hatred, unfairness, discrimination, and evil that Black people have suffered at the hands of and by the...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Cholly ·
*****When I went to see the movie, there were more Whites (about 90%) in the theatre than Blacks and many were men with family who were elderly retired military veterans who gave the movie a standing ovation.***** " Red Tails " came in #2, to "Underworld" ($25.4 million) opened to better-than-expected numbers at the domestic box office this weekend, taking in $19.1million. Fox Studios was upbeat. Studio executives had projected that the PG-13 "Red Tails," about the Tuskegee Airmen of World...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Kocolicious ·
Sista ER wrote: We can be mad that it's mostly White people producing these shows ... but ONE month of REAL history is better than the around-the-clock, year-round showing of "Flavor of Love" and "T.I. & Tiny" that a lot of Black people are riveted to these days. My sista...you are sooooooooooo right! Hey I didn't even get that this movie was showin in conjunction to Black History. I need to slow down. Okay. I don't understand why folks panties are in a bunch. Truly. We as black people...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Cholly ·
Lt. Col. Luke Weathers Jr. Tuskegee Airman Luke Weathers Jr. Buried At Arlington National Cemetery. ARLINGTON, Va. — On the same day that retired Air Force Lt. Col. Luke Weathers Jr. took his resting place among other war and military heroes, his real-life story as a World War II aviator played out on movie screens across the country. Weathers was buried Friday at Arlington National Cemetery in a service that began with a flyover of four F-16 jets in the Missing Man formation, a special...
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Re: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

Kocolicious ·
Great post Brotha Cholly! You're a man after my own heart. I just love this. And don't understand for the life of me....why there are some of us arguing over this...when we KNOW full well that there are no real black folks willing to put their necks out to tell our own stories. Pitiful. Point is...our stories getting out with quality, integrity, dignity and respect! Which is how it should be done!
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Re: Backtalk with Neil deGrasse Tyson

Xumbrarchist ·
http://psikeyhackr.livejournal.com/1500.html Xum
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Re: Baptist Leader: I'm Exhibit A on Diversity

Yemaya ·
I think it's a setup. . .
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Re: Baptist Leader: I'm Exhibit A on Diversity

sunnubian ·
Yeah, I was thinking, "wonder what they are using him for".
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Re: What Can Romney Possibly Say to the NAACP?

Norland ·
Look closely. Mitt Rmoney has the eyes of Richard Nixon. Ugh!!!
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Re: What Can Romney Possibly Say to the NAACP?

Yemaya ·
What did the POTUS Obama say to the NAACP?? I bet whatever Romney says won't be too far from it at least in spirit. Something about getting out of our house shoes or some stupid shit like that.
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Re: What Can Romney Possibly Say to the NAACP?

Yemaya ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: What did the POTUS Obama say to the NAACP?? I bet whatever Romney says won't be too far from it at least in spirit. Something about getting out of our house shoes or some stupid shit like that. Another insult to the black community ala POTUS Obama and his handlers. Everyone in my family from 1829 forward has some kind of hustle or entrepreneurial spirit. Maybe we need to review Dr. Khalil G. Muhammed's interview with Bill Moyers to comprehend the way this nation...
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Re: What Can Romney Possibly Say to the NAACP?

Kocolicious ·
What can Romney say to NAACP? What NAACP have been saying to black folks over the years. ABSOLUTELY N-O-T-H-I-N-G!!!!!!!
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Re: What Can Romney Possibly Say to the NAACP?

EbonyRose ·
It's always one step forward .... and two steps back.
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Re: BlackAmericanAgenda for EDUCATION

Xumbrarchist ·
This is the very first book I remember buying on my own. Star Surgeon, by Alan Nourse http://www.amazon.com/Star-Sur...Nourse/dp/1598180657 It probably cost me 35 cents, most of my weekly allowance. LOL It has now been free on the Internet for SIX YEARS. http://www.gutenberg.org/files.../18492-h/18492-h.htm The computer and Internet situation is way different from what it was just ten years ago. I recently found that Hugo Gernsback was advocating science fiction as a method to learn science...
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Re: BlackAmericanAgenda for EDUCATION

Xumbrarchist ·
Got a list of any of those books? That is almost 1 book per day from age 3. um
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Re: BlackAmericanAgenda for EDUCATION

sunnubian ·
Yeah, are they going to PREPARE these kids to be able to read that well by the first grade? That's one of the biggest problems with our schools right now, in their desperation to plug-n-chug to stay in compliance with NCLB, they leave no room for students to actually study, therefore, learn what they are being taught. Now, they have teachers teaching second graders like they're in a lecture class, then they test them. What ever happened to teach, practice, study, then test? But, it also...
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Re: BlackAmericanAgenda for EDUCATION

Xumbrarchist ·
It looks like the Google Nexus 7 is going to be a low enough cost tablet from a BIG NAME brand to become popular enough. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets...tastic-200-tablet/3/ It has the processing power of the iPad 2 and 3 and the screen resolution is better than the 2 and in spitting distance of the 3. And it costs HALF AS MUCH!!! So when are Black Americans going to standardise on some hardware? Imagine 200,000 Black families all buying Google Nexus tablets. Maybe Black Churches should...
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Re: BlackAmericanAgenda for EDUCATION

Yemaya ·
Originally Posted by Xumbrarchist: It looks like the Google Nexus 7 is going to be a low enough cost tablet from a BIG NAME brand to become popular enough. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets...tastic-200-tablet/3/ It has the processing power of the iPad 2 and 3 and the screen resolution is better than the 2 and in spitting distance of the 3. And it costs HALF AS MUCH!!! So when are Black Americans going to standardise on some hardware? Imagine 200,000 Black families all buying Google Nexus...
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Re: BlackAmericanAgenda for EDUCATION

sunnubian ·
Yeah, today's "Black Church" is not your father's/grand-father's "Black Church".
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Re: BlackAmericanAgenda for EDUCATION

Xumbrarchist ·
Well assuming a kid has some access to technology here is something to do with it: The best free cultural & educational media on the web http://www.openculture.com/science_videos Xum
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Re: Out Of All The Reasons African-Americans Don't Trust Mitt Romney, Here's The Very Best One

Xumbrarchist ·
Were we supposed to trust Obama? Xum
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Re: A stimulus for the middle class

Yemaya ·
All this whinning about the middle class. HEY! What about the working poor??
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Re: A stimulus for the middle class

Xumbrarchist ·
All of this stimulus crap deals with a CASH FLOW ECONOMY. That is the problem. When everybody is dependent on cash flow then we get chain reactions. Person A's cash flow goes down so he spends less and that affects B's cash flow who affects... Where is the Mandatory Accounting for EVERYBODY? Where are economists talking about Everybody's NET WORTH? I say mandatory accounting would mean too many people knowing too much and too many scams would not work. If millions of people had known to not...
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Re: BlackAmericanAgenda for EDUCATION

Xumbrarchist ·
What we're learning from online education http://www.ted.com/talks/daphn...sm=on.ted.com_Koller I think she is not confronting the consequences of this universal education. It will force more fundamental changes. What will it do to supply and demand regarding jobs. If qualified people are a dime a dozen then WHAT? I am not using that as an excuse to not do it. I think our entire concept of jobs, careers and economic class structure needs to change. Xum
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Re: BlackAmericanAgenda for EDUCATION

Yemaya ·
So quickly, are you implying that society would be forced to be more equal? I don't think that it will be equitable even if everyone had access to equal education. There's always going to be those who are more driven, more intelligent than others as well as those who are not as intelligent. However I do think that people have the ability to excel in what they are highly proficient in. Its those talents that will eventually reshape the society.
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