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Re: Good Read; Well Researched and Well Written

Muhammad Cipher ·
Interesting. Without commenting directly on his observations, what I do like is that this illustrates a deeper complexity embedded in the traditions of the Muslim, Jew's, and Christians.
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Re: Professor Jame Small: The History Of Christianity In Ancient Africa

RadioRaheem ·
I loved him in Hidden Colors 4
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Re: Black Africans Still Killing Each Other For Arabs and Europeans

Kocolicious ·
You know this is what I don't understand. Why you wanna be a muslim, if its muslims that is destroying your village, killing your family and torturing YOU? What is the prize in praising allah? If allah is NOT there to help you? I have been strugglin with this question since my father was active in Islam. I don't understand. And so I always recommend brothas to READ world HISTORY from an assortment of perspectives.....before dedicating themselves to a religion that was the FIRST to enslave...
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Re: Black Africans Still Killing Each Other For Arabs and Europeans

Muhammad Cipher ·
There are so many red flags in this story its unreal. The truth is that many (here and elsewhere) don't really care one way or another about what's going on in Africa (anywhere on the continent). The primary interest only in things that appear to reinforce a stylized and romanticized view of how Black people should approach liberation. The truth of the situation represents a problem to that romanticized view, so its dismissed and things (like the thread title) are repeated.
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Re: Black Africans Still Killing Each Other For Arabs and Europeans

Kocolicious ·
Hey I know the comment was not for me,.,,,but! Sorry I don't see any romanticized in killing your OWN people based on a religious belief. The Boko Haram is an extremist group....no? And the nigerian govt agency is also tied to islam in some way....no? All the people living there just wanna survive....no? Regardless of what god....no? People just wanna live their lives on their OWN terms. So I don't see the romanticism in that. That's basic. And the real TRUTH. People CARE about living their...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

EbonyRose ·
Okay .... well, I read - and re-read this THREE times just to be sure!!! And all I ccan say is .... HALLELUJAH!!!! And I hope SOMEBODY listens to him and is SMART enough to do EXACTLY what he is saying!!! If I had some money, I'd do it just because 1) he said it ... and 2) because it's the right thing to do!! (All except that "give it to the young people" thingy!! Nope ... the "young people" would have to EARN that money ...but they could do so by going to school, learning taking business...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Xumbrarchist ·
So did he say anything specific to do besides unite? Xum
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

EbonyRose ·
The real damn shame is that he would even need to be more specific than that.
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by EbonyRose: The real damn shame is that he would even need to be more specific than that. THLF has never represented himself to be an economist, lawyer, engineer, surgeon, etc etc. What he (and others in their respective areas) argue is the reasonableness of Black people thinking and acting and building in ways that puts service to each other's needs first. There's a big difference between acting in ways that will enrich yourself, and acting in ways that will benefit the...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Xumbrarchist ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: Originally Posted by EbonyRose: The real damn shame is that he would even need to be more specific than that. THLF has never represented himself to be an economist, lawyer, engineer, surgeon, etc etc. What he (and others in their respective areas) argue is the reasonableness of Black people thinking and acting and building in ways that puts service to each other's needs first. Unfortunately it is VERY difficult if/when you are wrapped up in a type of...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

EbonyRose ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: Originally Posted by EbonyRose: The real damn shame is that he would even need to be more specific than that. THLF has never represented himself to be an economist, lawyer, engineer, surgeon, etc etc. What he (and others in their respective areas) argue is the reasonableness of Black people thinking and acting and building in ways that puts service to each other's needs first. There's a big difference between acting in ways that will enrich yourself, and...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Yemaya ·
Originally Posted by Xumbrarchist: Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: Originally Posted by EbonyRose: The real damn shame is that he would even need to be more specific than that. THLF has never represented himself to be an economist, lawyer, engineer, surgeon, etc etc. What he (and others in their respective areas) argue is the reasonableness of Black people thinking and acting and building in ways that puts service to each other's needs first. Unfortunately it is VERY difficult if/when...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Xumbrarchist ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: Did you see Q&A this weekend Xum? S. James Gates, Jr. was featured on the show. You may find that interesting. Didn't see it. Looked over the transcript. This is the issue right here: I remember something happening to my thinking when I was in about 6th grade. I noticed I began organizing a lot of things in terms of Black and White. But when I seriously thought about it I noticed race did not really have anything to do with them. There is no Black physics.
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Kocolicious ·
Brotha Xum! Good question. What ARE we gon do about it?! That's the million dollar question I've been asking for TWO decades. But!
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by EbonyRose: Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: Originally Posted by EbonyRose: The real damn shame is that he would even need to be more specific than that. THLF has never represented himself to be an economist, lawyer, engineer, surgeon, etc etc. What he (and others in their respective areas) argue is the reasonableness of Black people thinking and acting and building in ways that puts service to each other's needs first. There's a big difference between acting in...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

sunnubian ·
"In my opinion ... I think it's a DAMN SHAME that BLACK PEOPLE (would) NEED to be given an EXPLANATION as to what it means to .... or why it would/should/is necessary ... to UNITE!! " *************************************************************************** This is so true and also what the problem is in the first place. I just do not know what it is going to take for Black people to wake up, to stop living on D'Nile about the true position the Black race is in, not only in America, but...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: Not trying to be cryptic, just trying to keep my comments pretty general an accurate. To be blunt.....many black people do not give a sh*t anything unless there is either a direct benefit or direct threat to their daily life. Living between those two ends are what most call a comfort zone. When that zone gets rocked (ie Yes its possible for you to make ALL the right decisions in life and still end up unemployed, shot by police etc etc).....THEN attention...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Muhammad Cipher ·
Neo-liberal is another name for neo-conservative. They are the same thing. Neo-conservative is a term somewhat unique to the U.S. while elsewhere the ideology is known as Neo-liberalism (for some historical reasons having nothing to do with being progressive). *I should also add, that the above is not exclusive to Black people by any means. However, as in many other situations we're deeper in the ideological mess.
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: Neo-liberal is another name for neo-conservative. They are the same thing. Neo-conservative is a term somewhat unique to the U.S. while elsewhere the ideology is known as Neo-liberalism (for some historical reasons having nothing to do with being progressive). *I should also add, that the above is not exclusive to Black people by any means. However, as in many other situations we're deeper in the ideological mess. I follow your meaning now.
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Kocolicious ·
Having all this so-called documentation i.e. bible is what has gotten blackfolks in trouble with themselves. Because in their minds they think that since it's in the bible that are ordained slaves.... it must be true without giving ANY consideration that massa had control over the printing of the sacred bible and have the POWER to put whatever the HELL he wanted in there. And of course, he gonna put slavery in the bible to justify his cruelty of humankind against "heathen savages." "You see...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

sunnubian ·
The reason I posted the picture was to jar someone's brain that may happen across this site, to say, "this is what those who hate us want to happen, are you going to allow it?" [or continue to allow it to happen].
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Kocolicious ·
This is a GREAT picture my sista. Cuz veiwing it does two things. One: Onebring attention to the fact that SLAVERY is in our history....but! Slavery is in the history of other cultures as well...we are JUST the latest slaves i.e. captured against our will human beings in the last few thousands years. And two: slavery is the STATE of mind and will continue to be the state of behavior as long as we believe subconssciously we were NOTHING else. So I think this picture is very poignant and...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

EbonyRose ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: "In my opinion ... I think it's a DAMN SHAME that BLACK PEOPLE (would) NEED to be given an EXPLANATION as to what it means to .... or why it would/should/is necessary ... to UNITE!! " *************************************************************************** This is so true and also what the problem is in the first place. I just do not know what it is going to take for Black people to wake up, to stop living on D'Nile about the true position the Black race is...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Romulus Burnett ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: Farrakhan outlined an economic plan of having about 150 pastors “pool our resources” to purchase land and buildings. “You could buy all those rundown buildings.” And then, “let’s go sell it and take some of that money and give it to the young people.” Ignorant . How about instead of buying up land only to turn around and sell it away, maybe SIT on the damn land. Develop it, market it and LEASE it to the movie industry.
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by Romulus Burnett: Originally Posted by sunnubian: Farrakhan outlined an economic plan of having about 150 pastors “pool our resources” to purchase land and buildings. “You could buy all those rundown buildings.” And then, “let’s go sell it and take some of that money and give it to the young people.” Ignorant . How about instead of buying up land only to turn around and sell it away, maybe SIT on the damn land. Develop it, market it and LEASE it to the movie industry.
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Romulus Burnett ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: Originally Posted by Romulus Burnett: Originally Posted by sunnubian: Farrakhan outlined an economic plan of having about 150 pastors “pool our resources” to purchase land and buildings. “You could buy all those rundown buildings.” And then, “let’s go sell it and take some of that money and give it to the young people.” Ignorant . How about instead of buying up land only to turn around and sell it away, maybe SIT on the damn land. Develop it, market it...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

nuggyt ·
"Hollywood" has rejected Detroit. Nobody wants to work there.
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Romulus Burnett ·
Originally Posted by nuggyt: "Hollywood" has rejected Detroit. Nobody wants to work there. Not exactly. Louis Schimmel, emergency manager of Pontiac, Michigan screwed that deal up. He and a few other wet blankets were against backing incentives to Hollywood with state pension funds. Just to add insult to injury, Hollywood was planning on shooting over 40 films there, one of which being IRON-MAN, which took in over 200 million overseas BEFORE debuting in the U.S., until Schimmel came on the...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Kocolicious ·
He really NEEDS to go and sit down somewhere and enjoy his golden years. His views are OUTDATED. Especially since most of blacks can read and question how can a man be devoted to the first master that enslaved his people. I just don't understand either. He's giving the version of the stereotype uncle Tom a new persona. How about telling BLACK PEOPLE especially the youth to STOP killin each other? That's one way to bring unity. Before one can clean up on the outside....one needs to clean up...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Yemaya ·
The problem that I have with this speech and his presence and frankly the Black NOI in Detroit is that they are now jumping in when that ship has sailed. Where were they when Dr. Claude Anderson was trying to purchase and establish an economic presence in Michigan to benefit African Americans? Unifying now when the city has been the victim of a hostile takeover by the state is no good.
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Muhammad Cipher ·
Originally Posted by Yemaya: The problem that I have with this speech and his presence and frankly the Black NOI in Detroit is that they are now jumping in when that ship has sailed. Where were they when Dr. Claude Anderson was trying to purchase and establish an economic presence in Michigan to benefit African Americans? Unifying now when the city has been the victim of a hostile takeover by the state is no good. This doesn't make much sense. The NOI was founded in Detroit and thus its...
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Re: Farrakhan Urges Black Unity in Detroit

Yemaya ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: Originally Posted by Yemaya: The problem that I have with this speech and his presence and frankly the Black NOI in Detroit is that they are now jumping in when that ship has sailed. Where were they when Dr. Claude Anderson was trying to purchase and establish an economic presence in Michigan to benefit African Americans? Unifying now when the city has been the victim of a hostile takeover by the state is no good. This doesn't make much sense. The NOI...
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Re: Ministers confront Glenn Beck outside his xmas show

James Wesley Chester ·
GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It would seem that we are finally learning the value of instantaneous...site specific...incident specific...demonstration against behavior and language. Hopefully, the time will come when 'we' start showing up on the front lawn of the Mayor of the cities...across the nation...that endorse the rampant 'murder with a badge' being inflicted on our population. The police are DIRECTLY responsible to the mayor...in every city. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Are the teachings of the NOI still relevant?

EbonyRose ·
Are you talking about the Minister Farrakahn-type NOI?? Because I've been wondering what his followers are thinking now that he had his 'near death experience' with cancer ... and has changed his conciliatory tune and suddenly loves everybody now ... wants to unite with 'others' ... yet, continue the quest for Black nationalism?? He seems to have had one of those "Come to Jesus" moments ... and dude really hasn't been the same since! But is his sudden 'change of heart' flowing down to and...
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Re: Are the teachings of the NOI still relevant?

EbonyRose ·
Oh! But to answer your question .... Yeah ... I kinda think they are! I mean ... all that's still kinda true! It hasn't been effective ... but, relevant? Yes, I think there's many of those ideas that Black folks could stand to know ... to learn and then use to their best advantage!
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Re: Are the teachings of the NOI still relevant?

Muhammad Cipher ·
@ Yemaya Its been forever since I've posted. I miss aa.org, but never liked or trusted the livecloud format. To answer your question, yes the NOI teaching are relevant. The problem with trying to reduce the NOI into "talking points" is that the authors of such grossly oversimplify what the NOI teaches. In the worse case, they're completely ignorant of what the NOI teaches. For example: the book Message to the Blackman was published in 1965. However, its comprised largely of articles written...
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Re: Are the teachings of the NOI still relevant?

Xumbrarchist ·
I used to buy the Mohammad Speaks newspapers when I was a kid. i went to Catholic grade school because my mother sent me but I agreed with the NOI about the White man's Christianity. But I didn't buy into Islam either. I considered "The White Man is the Devil" business to be silly propaganda at the time but I have a somewhat more complicted perspective now. There is the saying "Satan is the Prince of LIARS". The White man isn't the Devil but Satan is his prince. ROFL It just amazes me that...
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Re: Are the teachings of the NOI still relevant?

EbonyRose ·
Reference: While the NOI has been identified with the tag of "Black Nationalism" that isn't the language used by the nation. Okay, but ... even though you may not you choose to call it that ... or use that "language" .... isn't that really what it is? By definition? I mean ... it's my understanding that the object here is to bring Black people together, to work together towards progress and uplift, as a "nation" (in a metaphorical, if not literal sense, anyway) ... which, it seems to me,...
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Re: South Carolina Christian School Fourth Grade Science Quiz

Xumbrarchist ·
Would I have flunked or told them the lies they want to hear? LOL Xum
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Re: South Carolina Christian School Fourth Grade Science Quiz

Xumbrarchist ·
I watched this on TV when I was in grade school: Journey to the Beginning of Time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BohZrtpVVsU My teachers never discussed the subject. Xum PS - if you are selective the Internet is just SO COOL.
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Re: South Carolina Christian School Fourth Grade Science Quiz

Kocolicious ·
Now you KNOW that's a DAMN shame. I thought kids were learning about dinasours earlier than the 6th grade? And the test? Who in the hell wrote this crap? I also noticed the smiley face on the paper. 6th graders are pre-teens and teens usually they DON'T "do" smiley faces. That's for kindergarteners thru 3rd grade. I mean from my experience anyway. This test format is an insult to the school system throughout the nation. No wonder our children are failing miserbely[sp] and not able to...
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Re: South Carolina Christian School Fourth Grade Science Quiz

sunnubian ·
It's a private "Christian School". I really don't see any reason for even Christian/religious schools to teach inaccurate information about proven facts. [It's 4th grade] But it is also testament [no pun intended] to the fact that our public and private schools are all over the place when it comes to teaching our kids. The quality of education varies from state to state and from county to county within a given state and from city to city within given counties, along with gaping differences...
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Re: South Carolina Christian School Fourth Grade Science Quiz

Kocolicious ·
I dunno WHERE the hell I got 6th grade from. Too early in the morning probably. You're right my sista. The quality of education does varies and I'm concerned that the basic form of providing quality education is digressing. Used to be that teachers TAUGHT cuz they LOVED teaching. But now it seems that... that little bit of incentive doesn't matter anymore. And the thing is? That "need" to provide quality education hasn't changed as much as those who are doing the teaching. The standards are...
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Re: Organized Religions' Hand in the Descent of Humanity

Norland ·
Lots of killing and violence in this written "word". Truth be told, no one living has ever seen Jesus or God. Same as Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. It's all beliefs. These beliefs in Jesus and God or the other names for them have gotten zillions of people killed. No one can live in peace anywhere on this planet, without the threat of death looming over their heads due to their beliefs. Human beings are flat out maniacs. Plain and simple.
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Re: Organized Religions' Hand in the Descent of Humanity

DennisKalita ·
One Love! "Organized" religion means mind has messed it up. The world system and everything is wrong! Man is manas and manas is mind. Mental = Illness! There is only one Gospel - nothing else- and that is Unconditional Love ! Everything else is direct from hell.That's the real deal.
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Re: Organized Religions' Hand in the Descent of Humanity

anotha ·
Originally Posted by DennisKalita: One Love! "Organized" religion means mind has messed it up. The world system and everything is wrong! Man is manas and manas is mind. Mental = Illness! There is only one Gospel - nothing else- and that is Unconditional Love ! Everything else is direct from hell.That's the real deal. yes
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Re: Organized Religions' Hand in the Descent of Humanity

skuderjaymes ·
"organized religion" is a phrase. Phrases don't rape and kill and enslave.. men do those things.. and men have been doing those things for eons.. with so-called "religion" and without so-called "religion". Blaming an inanimate conceptual framework just let's the real culprits off the hook.
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Re: Organized Religions' Hand in the Descent of Humanity

Norland ·
This means Man is the most maniacal, insane, most vicious animal on the planet earth. He'll kill, murder, slaughter anything/anyone that steps his way, if he so chooses.
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Re: Organized Religions' Hand in the Descent of Humanity

sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by skuderjaymes: "organized religion" is a phrase. Phrases don't rape and kill and enslave.. men do those things.. and men have been doing those things for eons.. with so-called "religion" and without so-called "religion". Blaming an inanimate conceptual framework just let's the real culprits off the hook. That's like saying the Nazi Party did not kill the Jews, people killed the Jews. Billions of human beings on this planet have been tortured, raped, enslaved and murdered...
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Re: Organized Religions' Hand in the Descent of Humanity

skuderjaymes ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: Originally Posted by skuderjaymes: "organized religion" is a phrase. Phrases don't rape and kill and enslave.. men do those things.. and men have been doing those things for eons.. with so-called "religion" and without so-called "religion". Blaming an inanimate conceptual framework just let's the real culprits off the hook. That's like saying the Nazi Party did not kill the Jews, people killed the Jews. Billions of human beings on this planet have been...
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