Reply to "Woman sues church over gay marriage"

Finally, I guess this subject has run its course and there is no reason to continue the discussion. We have differing opinions and I can live with that. And once again, I have no problems with your disapproval of gay marriage. I was looking for you to give a compelling legal reason for a ban. Didn’t happen and that’s fine. I’m sure there are other issues we can both agree on…..

You know, Xeon ....

The fact of the matter is that that "definitive legal reason" that you are seeking (from me or anybody else), in actuality, does not exist.   And maybe that's why you can't seem to find it in my words.  The whole entire matter of "gay marriage" is right now being debated, deliberated, discussed, legislated, and bounced back and forth in courts and state legislatures in various parts ALL OVER THE COUNTRY!!!    The issue of whether it is "legally" right is the reason we (and everybody else) are having this discussion right now!!  And the "conclusion" of that debate seems to change by the day .... depending on where you are and what side you are on ... to the point that no clear and concise decision has been made on the subject. 

Some states allow it ... some states don't.  Some courts have upheld it ... some have rejected it.  Voters (when actually asked) have given their opinions at the ballot box.  And those opinions are ultimately challenged and more than likely sent to someone or somewhere else to reverse it.

So, it sounds to me like you're sitting here wanting to chastise me for not giving you a "definitive legal reason" for not allowing gay marriage ... when there's yet to be one established ... and the subject is still in the "fact-finding" and "discussion" state to determine whether or not there actually is one.  How you expect ME to be able to give you something that doesn't exist yet ... I really don't know!!  But you know what?  That's fine!  I have no problem with that.  Whatever floats your boat!!   

As I have tried to explain to you ... my reason for rejecting the idea of gay marriage is INDEED on moral and conscious grounds!!  I have never tried to shy away from or discredit that in any way!!  My reasons are - and have always been - based on my opinions and feelings on homosexuality.  That all I - or anybody else at this point - has to go on ... since the 'legality' of it has yet to be established.

Be that as it may, though .... I'm not sure everything in this life should or needs to be 'litigated'.  IMO, a big part of the reason we are in such a societal decline in this country (and in this world in general) is due to the lack of moral and conscious judgment of people - us as human beings.  We are going to hell in a hand-basket .... daily .... because of the chipping away of basic human decency and morality, the ever-so-slippery-slope of what constitutes right and wrong .. what is good and what is bad.

When you have to 'draw a line in the sand' by determining through litigation whether or not the word "fuck" or showing acts of sexual intercourse should be acceptable conversation or viewing for content shown to our kids ... there's something very wrong with that .... 'cause, as far as I'm concerned, the answer should simply be a matter of common sense.  But, clearly, that's not the case, is it??   

When rich and powerful countries choose to discuss and decide through legislative means whether or not to save the lives of tens of millions of people dying through an epidemic with cheaply-made, life-saving medication that they can more than afford ... instead of just doing the right (humanitarian) thing just because it's the right thing to do .... we are in big trouble as a society.

But that's EXACTLY where we are at in this world.    In a decline of moral consciousness and basic human decency.  And there's a lot of people for whom these things are archaic, unnecessary or just don't have much meaning or carry much weight.  I am not one of those people, though.  I see nothing wrong with using one's sense of morality and consciousness - a basic belief in right and wrong - (if one even has that!) to structure an opinion around. 

In fact, I believe the world would be a better place if more people did that.  But ... it may not be the most popular or commonly used way of thinking of things ... but ... it is mine!    And I'm not about to feel ashamed or remorseful … or apologize to you or anybody else for feeling that way.

And I understand that may not be good enough for you.  But … so be it.  That is the way the ball bounces.