quote:What most Christians seem to mean when they accuse others of not being open minded is that we won't cave in and confess that Jesus is the WAY and there is no other *
Again, I can't speak for 'most' Christians, what I notice about the double-standard of anti-fundamentalists is that they go into the religous debate with a strong bias, and accept any argument in their favor, credible or not, logical or illogical, for instance:
quote:He places the purging of the temple at the BEGINNING of Jesus' ministry whereas Matthew, Mark and Luke place it at the end (even implying it was the reason for his crucifixion: "When the chief priests and scribes heard of it, they kept looking for a way to kill him").
in John here is no connection at all drawn between Jesus's driving money changers out of the Temple and his death. Why? Probably because John wanted to emphasize different tings about who he THOUGHT Jesus was. John's INTERPRETATION was that it was Jesus' mission to purify religious practice and so he puts it at the beginning of the story. And obviously you can't crucify him at the start of the story and so John erases the connection.
I don't know what book of John this guy was reading but...
This is frustrating to me because when I read John, I can sense his kindheartedness and his passion for getting across Jesus' message, moreso than a chronological history of his sermons. Most people don't THINK when they read the Bible soo...
...And the Jews passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem, And he found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money and overthrew the tables(there goes that theory): And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Fathers house an house of merchandise. And His disciples remembered that it was written, the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up (retrospective validation)... DESTROY THIS TEMPLE, AND IN 3 DAYS I WILL RAISE IT UP...
(this next part is significant, because clearly the author of the conspiracy ignored this part)
When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.(more retrospective validation) (we're still in Ch2!!!)
John displays his purpose loud and clear, to show you how Jesus' words don't fall in vain, and how the life of His words was made real to him. I connect with John, because I can feel how he misses Christ even while writing this letter, I relate this to words that play over and over in my mind that a late loved one may have said to me, and the feeling I get when I can see/taste/touch/and feel, those words walk and breathe. I imagine John getting chills down his spine while writing his letter, because Christ' mission and His realness couldn't be any clearer in his life.
Does John's use of foreshadow invalidate his book?