quote:Originally posted by HeruStar:
lets say the Bible is tainted...
How does that view detract from Jesus' message? Is there any evidence that proves that Jesus is a liar? Shall the meek not inherit the earth? if a man asks you to walk with him one mile, and you go with him two, will this measure of love prove to be useless? Is that message tainted with lies and deceit? Help me out Brotha, because I'm trying to understand where your confusion lies?
OK. It's a known fact that the words attributed to Jesus in the Gospels were NOT in fact written by Jesus. They were instead written down by people who themselves probably never heard Jesus speak but got them second, maybe even third or fourth hand - written down decades after the words were initially spoken.
It's also a known fact that there are indeed discrepancies between the different Gospel texts. The list is well-known and available to anyone who cares to look for it and was noticed by Christians themselves as early as the 3rd century.
It's been well argued that these differences were sometimes due to the political aims of the writer. For example, John famously differs from the other 3 Gospels in MANY ways. I'll only list 2:
(1) He places the purging of the temple at the BEGINNING of Jesus' ministry whereas Matthew, Mark and Luke place it at the end (even implying it was the reason for his crucifixion: "When the chief priests and scribes heard of it, they kept looking for a way to kill him"). In John here is no connection at all drawn between Jesus' driving money changers out of the Temple and his death. Why? Probably because John wanted to emphasize different things about who he THOUGHT Jesus was. John's INTERPRETATION was that it was Jesus' mission to purify religious practice and so he puts it at the beginning of the story. And obviously you can't crucify him at the start of the story and so John erases the connection.
(2) John is the ONLY Gospel which contains the "Doubting Thomas" stories. Why? Because John wanted to discredit the Gnostic Christians who claimed the Gospel of Thomas as their primary authority. This text was suppressed by the early Christian authorities and was only rediscovered 60 years ago.
The list goes on and on and on
* The point is that these texts are NOT simply the work of eye-witnesses who were just writing down the facts as they occurred like many Christians naively try to believe. *