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Reply to "The Word ["Amen"]"

oshun,

Oh, come--I did not say that Jesus could have been Germanic. That you would say so shows that you just might be deliberately misunderstanding me. I said that, since we do not know what he looked like--he is not described--then we have to hold open the possibility that he looked like anything, including that Germanic picture. I do not think that the possibility is great that he looked like that, but the point I made was not about his appearance but about our proud certainy in what we cannot be certain about. It was about us, not about him.

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You have no idea how funny what you just said is. Look up the work 'cult' and others may get it...I doubt you will. BTW I could have sworn all Hebrew words have a mystic meaning, that the whole language has numerical corrolations ect. The entire speach is 'divine' to people that read Hebrew. Didn't your Jewish studies inform you of that melesi?
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I am familiar with the word "cult." It's meaning is a bit larger than our modern popular definition of an incorrect worship or belief system. The term "cultus" (from which "cultic" comes) is a neutral term--a word without derogatory or positive meaning indicating a system of worship.

Not all words in Hebrew had cultic or mystic meanings. In fact, the majority of them did not. The fact that letters were used as numbers does not mean that the letters and therefore the words have numerological meanings. "Negeth" does not; "shamem" does not--or can you find some mystic meaning in the words for "before" and "appall"? It isn't the "speech" that is divine to speakers of Hebrew, it's the word of God.

And where the Egyptians received their knowledge is not the same as tracing an etymology. From where "up the Nile" did the word come? Which language? What did the word mean there and then? How was it used? Who used it? That's what I mean, and that information for the word "amen" is very likely not available. I notice that you did not provide it, despite your deep reading in Egyptian literature.

Ok, they did not use the same word with exactly the same meaning. I mean, "amen" to describe all sorts of things and conditions is clearly not the name of a god. I did reference a few of the uses of the word in a previous post in this thread. You might want to look them up. Everyday speech, not special, not divine, not referring to God. Just a common, everyday use of a common, everyday term. That is not proof of Egyptian gods in Hebrew.

As for Moses, yes, he was learned in the ways of Egypt, but from the time of his self-imposed exile from Egypt he learned things a bit different from things Egyptian. I'm sure that he could learn after he left Egypt?

You appear more certain about these things that you should be.
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