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Reply to "Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!"

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Put simply, that means that whatever the two parties involved in conversation perceive the meaning of a word to be, that's what the word means in that conversation.

If both parties concieve "nigga" as an informal form of address, then that's what it means in that conversation, DESPITE ANY OUTSIDERS OPINION!
Maybe you ought to think about your futile attempts at logic before you publish it.

Obviously, the meaning "in that conversation" has everything to do with how the "meaning" was received by the student. No matter how the student used the word, the meaning when thrown back at the student, given the way English works, need not be the same. And clearly the student didn't perceive or conceive or receive it as the same.

So, again, think before you throw soft-balls of illogic around. Obviously "both parties" were not cool with the teachers use of the term. Tone, non-verbals and, yes, sarcasm in the English language alters the meaning of words.

"You are so stupid!" lol
"You are so STUPID!!!" upset

Frankly, there is no way in a Two-Way Conversation (which you pretend to be talking) that you can discount how the student perceived, conceived and received the teachers statement. And speaking about READING COMPREHENSION:

District investigators interviewed several witnesses, who did not confirm Dawson's allegation about the student...

So, not only are you trying to forward the childish premise of the teacher ("He Said It First!") but you're trying to argue in support of his idiotic defense and the statement itself when there is nothing but the teachers questionable statement to go on.

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On a personal note, Nmaginate, you score 0 for reader comprehension.

...Yes the meaning of the word "juke" has become archaic to most, just as the word "nigga" has become archaic to some.
Like I said, there is NO COMPARISON and there is little that's "archaic" about the meaning of the N-Word particularly with an English teacher who is, as you suggest, suppose to know something about "LANGUAGE."

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To clear the record, I do not disagree with the teachers punishment, it was completely nessecary to prevent actual racial discrimination from occuring.
When you know what the hell you're talking about then come back with your half-cocked ideas.

And "probability" won't save you. As noted above, you yourself have had to admit that you're not making proper, equivalent comparisons. Like I said:
No one is ignorant of the meaning or connotation of Ni@@a when said in a condescending manner or when trying to be snide or sly or sarcastic, much less when its used in a teacher-student relationship.

The teacher said:
"[I] responded with the same disrespectful term that he hurled my way."

The teacher called the term DISRESPECTFUL. Now what is the basis for your comments here?
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So, the final summation.
1) The student, when using this word, did not mean it as a racist remark.
2) If the above is true, and the student used the word in the presence of the teacher, this means there is a high probability that the word, when used by a teacher, ALSO was not racist. If offense was meant (as is probable) it was aimed at the student's vocabulary NOT at his ethnic background.
Why, even when presented with what the teacher, himself, said about the use of the term... WHY ARE YOU talking about what it "probably" meant or was used for?

In either event, using the term WITH A KNOWN VALUE of having a different perceived meaning and acceptability depending on the race of the sender... In any event, an English teacher, an adult, a conscious, thinking individual could easily think of other ways to make a teaching moment (if that was his intent) out of the incident without traversing the lunacy of using a forbidden term. A KNOWN FORBIDDEN TERM!

And, considering how this is the hip-hop era and how the term was supposedly used frequently AMONG THE STUDENTS... the teacher had ample time and reason to teach about the term. Instead, he said some BS like this:
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Dawson says students use the slang version of the word at Valley High School all the time. He says "nigger" is a racial slur but says students use "nigga" as often as they say "dude" or "hey, man." Dawson says as much as he doesn't like the word, he still used the slang version to feel more comfortable with black students. "Why is this word used so frequently? So I just don't understand it and I'm trying to understand it," Dawson says. "I need help."
Basically, the revelation there is that he DID NOT feel comfortable [enough] around Blacks, for whatever reason. Reasons that obviously had a lot to do with his idoitic use of the term and his equally idiotic defense for his use of it.
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