Originally posted by jazzdog:
Having come from a country like Angola I can see where you perception of the army, police and judiciary cloud your opinion, but just because thats how you lived does not mean thats how life in this country is.
Cheap shot Jazzdog...irrelavant and tacky IMO.
For instance I'm positive that every person served by the police and the judiciary are not ruling members of the elite but ordinary everyday people who needed help.
So are you saying the military and police haven't been and/or aren't used as an oppressive force by the elite, or the interests of the elite in this country? Are you serious?
And yes while the military is an extension of the government and its decisions, the government is an instrument of the people and are still voted in by the people, don't like the government or its policies vote them out, so there is really a big difference in how you lived and how we live and our opinions of the institutions.
Jazzdog you speak for yourself...The "we" you use means who exactly?...I hope you aren't speaking for all Africans born in Amerikkka. If you don't see how government is an extension of the corprate elite in Amerikkka...you need to take the blinders off. Cointelpro?...how soon we forget. For the people and by the people is a crock of schit! Keep believing that patriotic BS if you want to... You can't vote out the corporate control of government when all you have are corporate controlled political parties to pick from.
Additionally you display that flawed thinking in that this corruption of power is only displayed in capitalistic/imperialist countries whereas history as clearly shown the corruption of power happens in all political/economic systems whether it be capitalistic or socialist it doens't matter, all you are doing is just re-spewing that same old tired capitalism is evil statement.
Corruption of power is everywhere but Capitlaism MAAXIMIZES it. Capitalism is evil. Unless you are looking through "Euro-centric elite rose coloured" glasses. How is it benefitiary if looked at the mass working class and poor African-centered(or even just non-European elite) perspective? The interests of the oppressed CAN NOT BE the same as the interests of the oppressor.
You like many people totally condemn the suffering inflicted by the american military but for some reason fail to mention or condemn the suffering that militant Iraqis are inflicting on their own, does not those innocents also suffer or is it simply ok since they are killing their own. If war and the killing of innocents is wrong its wrong for everybody however for some reason the notion of it being wrong only seems to applied when the person is an American soldier.
Militant Iraqis are largely targetting different ethnic groups other than their own so all this (their own) crap is hogwash. That's about as logical as saying the White southerners who lynched Black folks were "targetting their own". They are different people. Iraq is not an ethnically homogenous society. Secondly, I sure don't think there would be militant Iraqi insurgents if there wasn't an imperialist occupation in the first place! Do you really take the U.S. media's reports on who is killing who at face value? You don't think even some reports may be being manipulated especially when it comes to those fighting against the U.S. imperialism?
Give me a break.