quote:Local police have jurisdiction over their respective cities. 1) One country, based on lies and misinformation, has no jurisdiction over another country. 2)When the majority of the population wants military occupiers out, the solution to their security is NOT for the occupiers to stay. (Ref my post regarding history repeating itself, all the way down to the empty phraseology used to justify occupation.)
If this is so then please tell me by what authority did the United Nations have in imposing economic sanctions upon Iraq?
What FORMAL IRAQI GOVERNMENT CHANNEL has asked "the United States to depart their country"?
quote:Iraq Foreign Minister Makes Plea For Continued Japanese Presence
(of course Pace or Empty will come along and say they don't trust the story because it is from Fox News but will never look to another source to validate it.)
So Isome - do you think that the Iraqi people don't realize that under Saddam they only had one candidate to vote and that you had to be a member of the Baath Party to receive resources that allow you to survive? Now they have a government of their choosing taking power. Certainly not everyone agrees with the government but the same is the case within the United States.
As we debate on and on it is clear that you are able to discard many of the principles that you claim to stand behind depending on the context of the situation. The fact that so many thousands of people died during the sanctions was no justificiation to realize that they were not working and a new strategy was needed to have Saddam provably comply with the UN sanctions allowing for comprehensive inspections.
I think that it is best for you to tell us what YOU DO BELIEVE IN first before we go through real world examples that highlight the execptions that you have to your core principles.
quote:Your analogy is flawed.
No I think I am quite consistent.
I have a consistent view on not turning a blind eye to the suffering of people by the use of POLICY to impose upon them. The UN sanctions were applied too long and they had thousands and thousands of people to die as Saddam was being "smoked out". There was no new government in place after 10 years of sanctions.
This war - despite the costs of American lives and American dollars has brought an end to the era of sanctions and has offered the people of Iraq a chance to govern themselves.
It is quite true that they may squander this opportunity, bowing down to the pressure of the insurgents living among them. Sadly though these were the same people who had been oppressing their own people during the years of sanctions. Now you appear to suggest that we should be listening to their demands for us to withdraw rather than the pleas of the people who know what will happen if we leave too soon before the government is able to defend itself.