quote:Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:
MBM - I am not sure who is worse between you or Empty in your theory that you can have man transform into behaving like ANTS, practicing 100% socialism above their own concerns.
CF, stop pretending that you "care".
You aren't concerned that we are "placing an ideology above our own concerns", you are upset that that ideology is not Capitalism. If we were 100% Capitalists, you would have no problem. If we placed Capitalism above our own concerns, you wouldn't care.
You are just upset that we are not Capitalists (well, at least I'm not, I'm not sure if MBM is a Capitalist or a Socialist he comes off as a Socialized Capitalist to me). I can get along just fine with Socialized Capitalists, it's "free market" idealists like yourself that I'm not fond of.
And, for the record, Socialism does not come before my own concerns. Socialism is not even contrary to my concerns to begin with. There are many elements of our current Capitalism that are against my concerns however.
quote:You and many other libs act like ultra-conservatives when it comes to the consideration of sending funds outside of America
I don't. MBM was just being a stark realist, I don't think he was being ultra-conservative.
quote:rather than spending it on your fellow Americans.
I'm also choosy about what Americans I spend my money on. Not all my "fellow Americans" have my best interest in their mind. I'm not about to waste my money on people who wish to preserve the corrupt Status Quo, or people who wish to see me, as a Black person, end up poor, dead or in jail.
quote:There are many rich people who seek to keep their money for spending on their own families
Good for them.
You also contradicted the Capitalist lie that all people who made it are "self-made people". You just pointed out the concept of INHERTENCE. Most rich people in this country were born into INHERENTENCE, not the Capitalist "rags to riches" myth/fiction. Everyone who becomes rich does it with help (receiving a business loan is getting help, and thus not making you a "self-made man"). Most people who become rich do something illegal, immoral or unethical to get there, otherwise they would not be as rich.
African-Americans should practice the conversation of wealth as all, but I believe we should do it in a communal form as well as in private form. Apparently, you just want African-Americans to have an "every man and woman for themself" attitude when it comes to economics, and you consider that "communal concern". Give me a break. You just want to become rich; damn the rest of the Black Community. As long as you are rich, you don't care how many Blacks are poor.
quote:while people in New Orleans live in RELATIVE poverty.
What is your plan for us and America helping them? You claim we should support our "fellow Americans". Well, will our fellow Americans (I asume you mean White Americans) help us out?
quote:They poverty, however is upper class living in many poor areas such as in Pakistan and Somolia.
No shit, Sherlock.
quote:Why is it so difficult for you to express what you preach when it comes to going beyond the MAN MADE NATION-STATE?