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Reply to "Life After Limbo"

MBM,

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becuase something is done out of principle does not say anything about whether it is right or just or valid. Principle can be wrong, immoral, even sacrilegous.
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Does this include our principles, too? If so, how can we discern between the good ones and the bad?

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Also - the argument about condoms is wanting. On the one hand you value the human decision to marry or abstain, yet you do not value the equal human decision to use equally man-made "tools" to prevent unwanted pregnancy and disease.
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Perhaps, but you seem to be forgetting the constraints on this argument that you made:

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For the sake of argument, whether you believe the argument or not, could you concoct a logical religous argument against condoms in a world where millions upon millions of people could save their lives with them?
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For the sake of argument, I did so as you requested. I also said:

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I would not agree with it,now, and so I can only hope that I would do the argument justice
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It is not my argument. It is the Catholic argument. I fear that I could not be a Catholic, so I have to make Catholic arguments with a certain tentativeness, for I could very likely get the nuances wrong. Still, I think I got the hub of their argument.

You may not agree with the argument, but it does have the virtue of consistency and logic. Your rebuttal does not deal with logic, which your previous post asked for. You disagreed with the argument on the basis of what appears to be utilitarianism, that is, on the basis of a different philosophy. Very well. But your choice of a different first principle does not negate the argument, for you do not demonstrate the validity of that principle, whatever it may be. It seems to be a utilitarian principle (which could be evil, according to your previous post), but you do not explicate it.

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Why is it appropriate to do some things and not others to effect the same outcome?
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That's put a little generally. The short answer would be, "Because some things are evil." It depends on what those "some things" are. To the Catholic way of thinking,

1. Human life is supremely important, second only to God
2. Many solutions that we manufacture are wrong, based on selfishness and not on love. The refusal to learn self-control and self-denial is a clear example of that.
3. Condom usage is an attempt to:
A. Thwart God's will in the making of human life
B. Replace God's deciding with our own, which is the sin of pride.
C. Avoid self-control.

Therefore, condom usage is a worse decision than abstinence.

Whatever else we may think of it, it is logical.
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