My problem with elitest organizations is these organizations often produce the negroes that represent us in mainstream america. These are the same negroes you see all over the tv carrying the water for the white man and telling everyone how bad blacks are , their situation is their fault and if they just pulled themselves up by their bootstraps they will be ok. But these people often dont live in the communities with the majority of black people and often times never associate with the everyday common black people who are the backbone of black culture. If you really look at it the black people who really made a difference for the masses of black people came from amoungs them. Even Jesus lived amoungst the poor. But somehow people are trying to push this talented tenth bullshyt over on people. What self respecting black person who loves their people would join an organization thats exclusive of the masses of its people? and can someone please tell me where in the hell did the name Jack and Jill come from?