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Reply to "Jack and Jill of America, Inc."

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MBM.... if it happens often, in different [cities..... and many share the same experiences..... can you not suspect a systemic mindset?


Perhaps, but I can supply an equal or greater number of people who have had only positive, enriching experiences.



.....and? has no relevance on the negative experiences of others.... and the pain that's caused..... are you suggesting that because you and other's have had positive experiences that this discounts others' negative experiences?

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this organization is not in a vacuum..... and it was created among a people that hold a certain viewpoint.......


Viewpoint? Other than wanting to provide culturally enriching environments and experiences for black children - what viewpoint are you referring to?


providing a culturally enriching environment for specific black children....

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and maybe your benefits from the organization will not allow you to see otherwise.....


Perhaps, but as you know every coin has two sides.


flipping coin...... my side of the coin is the one we are discussing now....

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yet I know that J&J doesn't have a history of letting in the Janitor's son....


But do you look at all black folks with college experience that way? Only 26% of Americans graduate from college. The number must be even smaller for African Americans. Does every occasion when subsets of black folks get together - by definition - have to be fundamentally elitist in purpose and objective?

Yes... and No.....

Just because that subset gets together is not a crime...... but when that subset excludes based off of uncontrollable characteristics.... it should expect to be attacked..... and if it develops a reputation of looking down on those who do not have the opportunities..... then it should be expect to be looked at with a jaundiced eye.......


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you are very light-skinned.....


yeah - I'm light skinded! What about it? karate Are we back in style again yet? tongue

Yes, you are light-skinned.... whether you're back in style is irrelevant... is it not? I mean.... MBM... you have an entire organization of people that favor you... because of it.......

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and therefore would never be at the receiving end of such a cruel practice... so how could you experience it.....?


My father and grandfather are/were a rich, deep brown. I grew up being very sensitive to color (as well as other) distinctions that black folks make with each other. I don't have to be blue to see and understand color consciousness just like I don't have to be a woman to appreciate and understand sexism.
You can understand........
but not feel it....

you will always be an outside observer....


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I have quite a bit of experience with this group, yet I have no reason to support them if it were not warranted. Although for some, it may be difficult to (want) to believe, in my experience, it's just never been an issue. Smile
I believe you.....

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BTW - "colorism" cuts both ways too!

Yes...

But rarely....


Peace,
Virtue
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