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Originally posted by umbrarchist:
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I'm on the 4th link now, I noticed they glossed over capitalist imperialism and Zionism in the area, and that the 'liberals' that 'got everything they wanted' in Amerikkka did not include a redistribution of wealth, but that was expected from the BBC.


This series could provoke discussion that could go on for days. One of the first things that struck me was Sayed Kotb's comments about American's emphasis on lawn care. It reminded me of Ernest Hemingway:

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the strict Protestant ethic of Oak Park, which Hemingway later said had "wide lawns and narrow minds

But Kotb was worried about the effects of American culture on the middle-east. That commercial with Egyptian women singing "I love Snoopy, Snoopy loves me" was hilarious. But the electronic technology is supposed to brainwash all of us into being good stupid consumers.


That's why I said I had the feeeling I was an extremist by the video standards. I was really feeling what Kotb said! I find myself looking at most of Amerikkkan culture this way all the time. What was funny is the BBC meant to make it look like that outlook was 'crazy', but I really identifed with it. Mind numbing comsumer culture is really creepy.

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This entire business is a culture war. American Manifest Destiny is no different from Lebensraum, and American capitalist imperialism not significantly different from Russian communist imperialism. European culture is constantly at war. They don't know how to not be at war. The way they do business is war, so continuous conflict is inevitable.[quote]

I would be curious to know 'why' you think that is. I would love to know your perspective. I always find it so fascinating.

[quote]But I think there is another factor affecting the West and probably the middle-east even more: technological change. In 1970 Alvin Toffler came out with the book Future Shock. Techno-change hasn't slowed down since then tho it is interesting we haven't been to the moon since '72. That is not what I would have expected then. But the technology we are using now is a spin off from the space race. The government financed the development of micro-electronics because they had to have a lightweight, rugged computer to make the moon landing possible. But this technology creates spin offs of spin offs. The human genome project would be impossible without computers and it will be decades before we know the effects of that.


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Did you have any comments on 'Loose Change'?


I have seen that video before. I was home on 9/11 and a friend called me and told me what was going on so I watched some of it real time and of course saw lots of replays.

For some reason I wanted to be an architect in my early grammar school years. Though I decided to switch to science/engineering by graduation. There were lots of architects in my fraternity and my pledge father was one. We could see the Sears Tower being constructed from the living room of the frat. I think that is one boring building. But a couple of days after 9/11, after the shock was wearing off I was thinking, "I cannot believe two airplanes could bring down those buildings that soon after impact. If they had burned for 24 hours and left 10 stories standing at the bottom, maybe I could believe it. But both collapsing straight down and level to the ground! NO WAY! And then a 3rd building that wasn't hit by a plane collapses too. Total Bullshit!

It is just that the inevitable conclusion seems so outlandish also. But the laws of physics are inescapable.

http://www.campus-watch.org/article/id/2681

http://www.organicconsumers.org/2006/article_1439.cfm

http://www.informationliberation.com/index.php?id=12428

umbrarchist


Thanks again. It is nice to know the opinion of someone who has more expertise in this area.

You remind me of this brother I was in an organization with. He was a technology junkie and IMO a genious. He was an expert in all the areas of life that are far from my strong points, but that we all need to know. I used to love going to his classes.
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