More than likely my... $$$quote:And contrary to Nmaginate's statment to be associated with politics would probably mean they would have a "label" regardless of if they some fell they have no meaning with regards to Martin and Malcolm. And even if Both men held a degree of BOTH ideas -- those narrowly framed as "liberal" and "conservative". they would more then LIKELY assocaite with one party more then the other.
What did Malcolm himself say about BOTH parties and "associating" with them?
Holla back when you have an informed comeback.
Sorry, my friend, that doesn't responsibly characterize Malcolm X's views.quote:Malcom was more of fuck the government they will only cheat you and lie anyway. We don't need them.
And this doesn't even begin to make sense. How is it that you can claim that Malcolm, e.g., would "more than likely associate with one political party or the other" when you try to simultaneously maintain that Malcolm's views can be summed up in "Fuck The USA (gov't)"??? Umm... Political parties are essentially organs of gov't.
Also, Malcolm was pretty adamant in saying that WHITE Conservatives and Liberals were IN CAHOOTS! (His terminology)
He characterized Liberals as Foxes and Conservatives as Wolves - both being dogs waiting to bite Black people. Now, summarized, those were his views and you can consider this as well:
While you may still narrowly (and, no doubt, naively) say that that's him saying "We Don't Need Them", an informed view of the totality of his stances whether he directly stipulated things like MLK or not would tell you that such a "Short-Term" plan requires and demands change, RADICAL CHANGE from the U.S. gov't. And please feel free to explain this too in relation to your idea:quote:quote:...I mean we still believe in the Honorable Elijah Muhammad's solution as complete separation. [African Americans] should be separated completely from America and should be permitted to go back home to our African homeland which is a long-range program; so the short-range program is that we must eat while we're still here, we must have a place to sleep, we have clothes to wear, we must have better jobs, we must have better education; so that although our long-range political philosophy is to migrate back to our African homeland, our short-range program must involve that which is necessary to enable us to live a better life while we are still here. We must be in complete control of the politics of the so-called Negro community; we must gain complete control over the politicians in the so-called Negro community, so that no outsider will have any voice in the so-called Negro community. We'll do it ourselves.
Tell me? Why would Malcolm consider taking our case before the U.N. under the rubric of HUMAN RIGHTS if his objective was not to demand or force the American gov't/society to CHANGE?quote:But the United Nations has what's known as the charter of human rights; it has a committee that deals in human rights. You may wonder why... the Negro problem is never brought before the UN. This is part of the conspiracy. This old, tricky blue eyed liberal who is supposed to be your and my friend, supposed to be in our corner, supposed to be subsidizing our struggle, and supposed to be acting in the capacity of an adviser, never tells you anything about human rights. They keep you wrapped up in civil rights. And you spend so much time barking up the civil-rights tree, you don't even know there's a human-rights tree on the same floor.
When you expand the civil-rights struggle to the level of human rights, you can then take the case of the black man in this country before the nations in the UN. You can take it before the General Assembly. You can take Uncle Sam before a world court. But the only level you can do it on is the level of human rights. Civil rights keeps you under his restrictions, under his jurisdiction. Civil rights keeps you in his pocket. Civil rights means you're asking Uncle Sam to treat you right. Human rights are something you were born with. Human rights are your God-given rights. Human rights are the rights that are recognized by all nations of this earth. And any time any one violates your human rights, you can take them to the world court.