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Did you really read ALL of what I said? And do you really know all about this "occult" thing you are talking about or you just have an idea that it exist?

Fraternal Orders as such pre-date American history... so your point there is a little weak though I may not stray that far from the thrust of your premise.

But you obviously haven't read much of Carter G. Woodson or understand the most quoted passage from him concerning the Mis-Education Of The Negro.

All this borders on what I think are simplistic ideas that racism is based on "hate"... Something I reject as the most accurate way to depict the enterprise.

I've said it elsewhere and I think RACISM is the culmination of the Seven Deadly Sins - Pride, Covetousness, Lust, Anger, Gluttony, Envy, Sloth. I believe it can be manifested in both intentional and unintentional ways most of which don't require specifically stated reasons to target Black people.

Socially, IMO, White self-interest is at odds with Black survival let alone thriving.

I think you should read all of what someone says and/or know who you're talking to...
Anyway... I'd appreciate an more info. about the occult thing and some sources to consult.

[This message was edited by Nmaginate on December 01, 2003 at 01:11 PM.]