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This is getting too long. Time for a break.


I didn't mean for everyone else to take a break. lol

The entries to this thread have gone like this:

Feb 15 = 4
Feb 16 = 18
Feb 17 = 5
Feb 18 = 2
Feb 19 = 1
Feb 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, Mar 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 = ZERO

So when I defend my list and correct the impression that people seem to have inferred that the list was complete, the thread comes to a grinding halt. I decided to let it go for two weeks while I typed some excerpts from Black Men: Obsolete, Single, Dangerous?

The cover was sufficient to attract my attention but it was the introduction that got me to buy it.

"page i"
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I wrote this book because I sensed a need in the United States for a new truth - a truth not based on false histories, false assumptions, false arguments or false realities. In a Newsweek essay(1-21-80), the scientist/writer Isaac Asimov wrote about the "cult of ignorance" in this country. He said, "The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant threatwinding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
Ignorance about the state of Black people in America is appalling. However, what is even more appalling is that few people in the dominant culture even give a damn, and too many African American leaders have no idea how to improve the lives of their people.


A Black man quoting Isaac Asimov was sufficiently unusual to be worthy of note.

"page ii"
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The education I received in the Black community was entirely different - in content and context - from that of whites. Not only was "training" not a challenge, it was discouraging. The major piece of information I absorbed after twelve years of public education was that I was a problem, inferior, ineducable and a victim.


That sounded just like my grammar school.

"page iii"
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One year on my birthday, my mother took me to a five-and-dime store to buy me a gift. She bought ma a blue plastic airplane with blue wheels, a blue propeller and a blue string on the front of the plane so that one could pull it across the floor. I was happy. That followingweek she took me and my sister to Dearborn, Michigan where she occasionally did "day work." Day work, for the uninformed, means Black women cleaning up white folks' homes. Dearborn Michigan is where many of the movers and shakers who controlled the automobile industry lived. What I quickly noticed was that they lived differently. There were no five-and-dime stores in Dearbornat this time; there were craft shops. This is where the white mothers and fathers bought their children airplanes in boxes. In the boxes were wooden parts, directions for assembly, glue and small engines. Generally, the son would assemble the plane (which might take a day of two) and then take the plane outside and - guess what - it would fly.
This small slice of life is an example of the development - quite early - of two different consciousnesses. In my case and tha of other poor youths, we would buy the plane already assembled, take it home and hope it rolled on the floor as if it was a car of truck rather than a plane. In Dearborn, the family would invest in a learning toy, and the child would put it together. Through this process, the child would learn work ethics and science and math principle. And, as a result of all that, the plane would fly. I was learning to be a consumer who depended on others to build the plane for me. The child in Dearborn made an investment, worked on it and, through his labor and brain power, produced a plane that flew. Translating this to the larger world, I was being taught to buy and to use my body from the neck down, while the white upper class boy was being taught, very early, to prepare himself to build things and run things, using the neck up. Two different worlds: my world - depending on and working for others, and his world - controlling his own destiny.


Souls of Black Folk came out in 1903, the same year as the Wright brother's first flight. Du Bois wouln't have played with a toy airplane flying or otherwise. But it is that with this personal experience with technology and education he does not include any technology books in his list.

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Learning to take hold of one's life is a very difficult in a culture that values property over life. This is the same culture that developed the concept of "planned obsolescence" and throw-away underwear. Most Black people in thes country are wards of the state. This dependency has rendered many of them neutral in the fight for Black liberation. Therefore, it is mandatory that Afrikan Americans develop "survival and development strategies." We must be able to disconnect from the oppression around us, whether it is political, economic or of a more personal form coming from friends, family members of co-workers. Negaive people always will want to involve others in their defeated lives.


Anybody mentioning "planned obsolescence" must know something about what is really happening in the world. But the only book in his list about personal finance is Real Estate is the Gold in Your Future by Dempsey Travis.

"page 15"
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The U.S. may not be the most literate nation in the world, but it certainly has more information available to the general public than any other nation. The great majority of information that is freely circulated goes untouched by the Black community, either because of ignorance or non-concern. The need for a highly literate and analytical mind to deal with tody's world is not considered as important as basketball or haristyles. Until our priorities change, we will not be able to compete of complete our task.


And most of the freely circulated information is BULLSH!T The problem is finding the stuff that is worth paying attention to in the blizzard of trivia. Most of the palefaces don't know and the ones that know won't tell.

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If you're tenured, the job security is outta this world. The benefits are fantastic. Lots of vacation time. Plenty o' perks.


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outside of Business Schools, you're most likely to find the hardcore Libertarian-NeoCon types in Math, sciences, and Engineering. The faculty in these departments tend to be smart individualistic white guys.


So the educators have been bought off to perpetuate the system. Curious how the "smart individualistic" people are in math, sciences and engineering. lol

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Everyone has hopefully read Carver's The Mis-Education of The Negro.


Been there, done that. 1930's - GIVE ME A BREAK! Haki Madhubuti's Black Men is old at 1991 because it is pre-World Wide Web.

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... they also need to learn critical thinking skills. I know as a math and physics major at Vanderbilt eons ago, I got none of this.


It is now my opinion that liberal arts colleges tend to do a better job in this respect.


I have heard people throwing the phrase "critical thinking" around a lot in recent years. The only course I had in high school that involved what I regarde as "critical thinking" was mathematics, especially doing proofs. But when I allpied that kind of thinking to the liberal arts stuff the teachers got bent out of shape.

By the way kresge did you know MLK got Nichelle Nicholls to stay on Star Trek?

umbrarchist

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