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Reply to "Cognitive dissonance and the black woman"

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Originally posted by ddouble:
When I read the exchange last night - HB & thayfen were withdrawing from the discussion because of this:

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Okay....

I do not mean to offend you...

You were attacking an institution I hold dear....

I try not to attack anyone or put them on the spot regarding their beliefs or things that they hold dear....

I would not....

Please let's not continue to argue...

This is why I made the statement I did - IMO, this was an appeal to emotion to shut down the road the discussion went down. I would still respectfully maintain that the uncomfortable parties should withdraw from a discussion rather than attempt to shut it down. Just my opinion - we can move past that. Wow... I didn't realize you were so in tune with my intentions that you could speak for me....

Nice...

Well, dear Brother.... since you insist on making that a point....

That was an attempt not to shut the conversational topic down.... it was an attempt to shut down the emotional climax that was about to happen and I didn't know how that would turn out..... so instead of speaking to the emotional build up.... I spoke "around" it......

That was my intention.....

I have no problems with the topic...... except that the topic really doesn't belong here.... if we are going to debate about the validity or opinions regarding the beliefs of one's institution then we really should take it to the religion forum..... IMHO....


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Originally posted by virtue:

Originally posted by HonestBrother:
Why does it seem that all of our women (or a goodly portion of them) are looking to these strict, authoritarian (and paternalistic) religious organizations (whether Christian or Islamic matters not to me) which are basically throwbacks to bygone eras?

all? .... there are plenty of women left that do not want structure or an accountable moral environment.....


In the context of HB's post, you set up a dichotomy. Women who want structure & moral accountability (in the context of the groups described by HB) or women who do not desire structure & moral environments. These are not the only possibilities, so framing the issue as either/or is not intellectually honest IMO.
No it wasnt.....

It was a very simple response.......

HB generalized.... I offered not an either or alternative.... just an alternative....

Just my opinion..... but perhaps you're reading way too much into what you think are my intentions.......

If someone says all apples are green.... and I say well there's always the red ones.... that's not a hard fast either or situation..... just an option..... there should be no implied cut off.... unless you make it so..... one may not know that there are yellow apples... but the response is not cutting off that possibility... just not addressing it....


Peace,
Virtue
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