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Originally posted by ddouble:
art gurl & detroit1 have already touched on many of the reasons why it's shameful. If we are talking about adoration & respect for the criminal lifestyle, I shouldn't have to explain further.
No, ddouble... I wasn't giving a justification.... for me there are two separate emotions being expressed.....

Let me try to explain a bit further.....

Do these women enjoy the criminal lifestyle? No.... These women could give a lecture on it that would give inspiration to others to leave it......

--- But, the contradiction is....seemingly... any way.... that in their personal choices.... they choose men sometimes that go against the grain of everything they espouse.....

When discussed...... words like "god" come up to describe someone in control of his environment..... or "he don't take no... ish..."..... or "he went crazy on the cops"..... or "he got his.... his way"....

Now after reading these statements..... it might be easy to think I'm talking to ShaNeNe.... but I'm not.... these are college educated Master degreed women..... Some are successful entrepreneurs..... A few are *ahem* married....(with fantasies)......

See, Detroit asked a question.... I assumed about the "contradiction".... not about the quantity.... (I could be mistaken.... I haven't re-read it as I'm typing)..... and if you want to understand the contradiction..... then you have to first accept the possibility that a mind like this exists....

See when we go into these sessions..... I don't judge (although it is easy to do... clearly).... I just listen..... so I can understand..... and then I ask questions.... like "Well why don't you fantasize about Stanley O'Neal.... He went in and took over Merrill Lynch single handedly and threw out the 'old boy network'?" There's a Black Man in control.....

But the answer is the belief that somehow no matter how high some one rises in this world he "loses" some of himself to get there... so the answer is.... "Yeah.... but he took over 'Merril Lynch'....." Well I didn't understand what this meant at first..... But later I got it.... Merril Lynch is an established Wall Street firm with its own rules.... and makeup.... its not an original creation.... its not a brother "creating".... its a brother "taking over" and then "running" it.... better.... for the benefit of Black people? Nope.... For the betterment of WallStreet and "the firm"..... this kind of thiking comes out in statements like.... "Well what has he done for us lately?" All of this may seem like a contradiction....but there seems to be a crossing over of thoughts.... one thought is ...... wanting a man in control..... and the other is..... wanting a man who believes in the empowerment of Black people...... and apparently that view is not one where Black people exist in someone else's country bettering someone else's idea of reality.....

Even further.... most of women, if Stanley O'Neal wanted to go out with them... wouldn't hesitate to say okay..... would probably marry someone like him..... but what they "want" and what they "talk" about is different....

I am not saying that these women prefer a thug.... they just don't see what they're looking for any where else really..... and least not accessible.....

Hmmmm.... it's kind of like in a movie where the "bad boy" is the one that leads the revolution.....

I hope this comes out coherent... but I'm typing late again....


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Just one more train of thought comment though:

If admiring thugs & rejecting educated men is the new "thing" for Black women, then George W. Bush must be beating off the sisters with a stick... ohsnap
lol
Not for women like this...... George Bush would be the enemy.....

Also, just a note.... these women are not desperate.... it's not a situation of their not being able to attract men..... like, Rowe, they do alright..... its the type of man that they are looking for....

And this is not all my friends.... sheesh! Just "some" of them..... but again.... the question was asked.... so I thought I'd share what I knew....



**** Disclaimer******* .... Sigh....

I Personally do not lust after thugs.... don't even fantasize about them!!!...

Well there was this one time....



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