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Reply to "AZ vs the US"

I think that it will go as it always does by the SCOTUS: a 5 to 4 decision leaning in the postitve for the individual states (mainly the red states) to inact their version of AZ immigration law and I agree with ER, the lawsuit that's being brought by the POTUS cannot be a watered down defense just to appeal for votes but a very strong defense and alternative to what AZ proposes since AZ has the advantage in this since they developed their laws (no matter how racist) and are actually pressuring the POTUS to back peddle and act on this now as opposed to when he really wanted to.

And for South Carolina and the rest of these no crossing border, farming heavy states?. You can't trust those racist political bastards to be fair about anything. Just like but unlike AZ, they have no border to cross, they purposely brought in and NEEDED immigrants to do one thing: all the field manual labor that they have since Blacks have moved on and won't go back in the fields. A very few Blacks (older & unemployed who grew up knowing how to do this) will still work to get an end of the week, written personal check for daily/weekly cash to help with bills or to get his weekend reefer high, beer and hard liquor drink on but doing any long term type work? No way.

These immigrants are doing the same exact back breaking thing I did when my family sharecropped and I got paid $8-12 dollars a day during my pre-teen/teenager years on a seasonal and annual basis, now with modernized equipment.

Immigrants did not come to SC because there was work that they heard about, SC went to Florida and other states and got them, housed them in hotel rooms, old mobile homes and trailer parks, old deficient or makeshift houses (I even saw them convert an old tobacco barn by my aunt's home that we used to dry tobacco into living quarters in the 80's), paid them advances and hired them to drive the tractors, the combines, plants all the crops, maintain their growth, harvest the cotton, the tobacco, the corn, the wheat, the cucumbers, the sunflowers, the soybeans and all the annual rotational seasonal crops and once that was covered, then it was the lowly paid personal services, the home care, the lawn care, the modified version of the nanny, the maid, the butler, the home fixer upper etc. .

When the harvest season was over, many of the immigrants stayed on (based on the workload) were sent back to Florida or wherever they came from by the White farmers.They would personally take them back or arrange for them to go back home on buses or trains.

And now that the population of those immigrants have increased many fold and are now living there, working in the factories (by those SC employees) for cheap labor, low wages with no benefits, shopping in the grocery stores, shopping in the malls, eating in the restaurants, going to the movies, taking their kids to daycare, kids in the schools, kids dating their sons and daughters, driving cars, staying at the hotels/motels instead of all immigrants cleaning them, having families and physically mingling and living among the Whites SC residents all over the state, now they have a "public & social problem" peppered with White fear and "crime statistics" (in which I don't believe) and now want to unpopulate the state of them but only just enough to maintain the field work and personal services status quo since no Blacks and no Whites will take their place. NOT IN THAT S.C.HEAT!!...but the field and factory work (legal or illegial) still has to be done and if their version of the law is enacted, they expect the legal Hispanic to replace the illegials and perform the field work.....Blacks & White will get first dibs but you know that ain't gonna despite the new immigration law, the politicans and power players across the state will circumvent the system and the illegails will still be doing the no changes unless you're caught....the same as it is now but with a lesser overall Hispanic population that looks good on a bar graph presentation.

The problem I have with the White House is that they are way too academic and lean to heavily on that at times to solve major real world problems. They do everyhing with a stroke of a pen; from behind their desk and don't go out and actually see as the late Bernie Mac would say "see what the fuck is really going's on". In this situation, you have to get out and get your hands dirty; the boots on the ground field work, talk to these people actually doing the work in order to find out what's really happening and not let the power players and politcans bullshit you with a wine & dine prepared tour and power point presentation. In other words, don't do town halls for show or make a speech on the ground.

Trust but verify but it may be way too late for that.

The POTUS and his adminstration need to address this in a pure human form of realism on the ground to express exactly what's going on here and not prepared statistics to try to politically appease for the Hispanic vote. This can't be a speech or a controlled QA session,,.... it has to actual, factual, truthful and it has to really hit home.
Last edited by Cholly