quote:What message? That slavery was a horrible and unjust institution? Who is debating that? As I stated before, if you know any former slaves, by all means, they should be compensated. I was very clear about this before……
Apparently not clear enough
quote:Uhhhhh…..I’m sorry but I don’t recall anyone saying blacks were not valuable.
Nope not anyone! You. This is what you said “ black slaves were like commodities and chattel that had established value.”
So even though you didn’t say blacks were not valuable per se...the implication is there. In other words, your words can be easily depicted as saying that they [blacks] were only valuable as commodities and chattle....not as human beings. You wrote this. I didn’t.
quote:Sorry my friend but I’m not following you here very well.That’s completely false. And it was the labor of the Chinese that built the transcontinental railroads –not the Japanese. Two totally different groups. Next…quote:
Welll. I know. Pay attention!quote:All I said was English slave holders were compensated for the loss of their slaves when slavery was abolished. Like you, I feel those black slaves should have been compensated for their enslavement.
I understood that part.quote:Unfortunately, they were not. I never said it was ok for one group and not the other. And to be honest, I don’t think the slave owners should have been compensated. But that is neither here not there since the Slave Trade Act in 1807 and the Slavery Abolition Act of 1833 happened more than 175 years ago (and the slave owners were compensated). It’s a matter of historical fact……
As you would say...”duhhhhh" I know it was 175 years ago. And if it were rectified properly and legally back then the way it was supposed to be....it wouldn’t be such an issue 175 years later. Right?quote:Once again, I’m not sure I know where you’re going with all this. The brutally and evils of slavery is not indispute here. I’m very aware of this barbaric and dehumanizing institution. So, I’m not sure I follow what point you’re attempting to make here…..
Well... I know! Go to library and check out one of the many African Americans from slavery to freedom books....and come back to me. 'K?quote:If you were a slave -yes. If you were not –no! Just about every group can make a case in some form or another for being historically abused because of race, ethnicity or gender. But to compensate someone simply because they are black ( who never suffered from loss of liberty and freedom nor labored under the brutal hardships of slavery) for transgressions that happened 144 years ago to a group that they are a member of -makes no sense. Sorry, but it’s not going to happen…..EVER!
We are NOT talking about every other group. We are specifically talking about African Americans. Try to stay focused We are talking about Africans forced into free labor in a land stolen from Amerindians. We are talking about present-day African Americans whose ancestors suffered the most horrific crime in human history. And again...the folks currently here are their descendants. Where? Not in Europe. Not even Asia....but! In America! Again, stay focused.quote:Makes perfect sense. If you were severely injured in an industrial accident -you should be compensated for that accident. What sense does it make to award your decedents (who know nothing of your personal existence let alone your name) 144 years later after the fact?? If that was the case, the courts would be indefinitely frozen with countless litigation and tort cases of past injustices being filed by the relatives of deceased wronged victims. Every group would have grounds for seeking compensation for their ancestors for just about every imaginable form injustice and abuse.
No it doesn’t make sense. And so what if courts are indefinitely frozen with countless litigation and tort cases. There were criminal acts committed against human beings who families should be compensated. White boy don’t just get to get away with MURDER!! And forced SLAVERY! Or does he? He always talking about JUSTICE for all. Right? Afterall[I say this in arrogance] blacks back then were nothing but chattel and commodities.... not humans with the RIGHT to their lives and their freedom. The courts don’t have TIME to right that wrong! Oh no! They only have time to continue imprisoning innocent blackfolks [a new slavery method]for life for friviclous nonviolent crimes....so they can make MORE money off of them Right?quote:Uhhhhh, you are free to legally will any property or assets to your decedents. It’s a matter of legal record and documentation. Who said this cannot be done?
You are deliberately missing the point. To be funny. However I don’t see the humor.quote:I already explained this: It was a matter of public and documented record. Everything they had owned prior to their interment was documented. It easy to reconstruct what was lost.
Excuse me. You don’t have to explain a thang to me. I can read. My brain works just like "yourn."
Wrong my brotha. Although it’s true the Chinese were there building the railroad but! They were REPLACED by the Japanese immigrants as a result of the Chinese Act which restricted the usage of Chinese workers on the railroad. I think this occurred in the late 1880s. But! It doesn’t take away FROM what I said initially. And please....STOP distracting fact...or avoiding the point just to be RIGHT! It’s not a good look. Cuz you know exactly what I'm saying....about the Jews and Ooops excuse me "Asians." Again...what did both contribute to this country...without pay?
Ummmmm, not trying to be disrespectful my friend but you ranted and raved in a disjointed manner. I could respond to what you said but everything just ran together even though each sentence was seemingly indecent of the previous one. You said some things I do agree with but as I said, it was a disjointed rant.
Why you hatin’? Are you now my English teacher? I have creative license...as a writer I can mashed my sentences together....up or down...in fact any DAMN way I want. As long as the reader get the message/or point. Anyway... my writings can be perceived as ranting to some folks ....and viewed as literary to others. But most importantly it's proven data i.e. historical fact! So chose your posion....I’m not jealous! I. KNOW. What. I’m talkin about. And just cuz you say so with so-called informed “arrogance” ....doesn’t MEAN you are the editor EXPERT on how I am suppose to write or express myself. There are all kinds of writers/artists in this world. I'm one of 'em
quote:And I never said, “….. once Blacks became humans and not chattle or commodities....we were NO longer valuable.” I have no idea who said that but it was not me.
No. You just IMPLIED it. The same DAMN thang!
quote:Next time please be more focused or specific.
I think you need to mirror you OWN advice
quote:But to end this, I’ll say what I said in the very beginning: Even though this is a very emotional issue with some folks, their angst, bitterness and vitriol for non supporters is pointless and wasted since it (reparations) -will never, ever happen.
Your opinion. And if BLACKFOLKS thought like YOU!!! We still be SLAVES!
quote:I don’t know any other way to say it. Sorry to disappoint you……
I’m not disappointed. I see folks like you. EVERY. DAY. The ones who think just cuz they can spell...and maybe read a little...their conjecture matters. They are an authority. Not! Sorry to disappoint you Next!