The Infamous Letter of Willie Lynch

 
November 17, 2003 1:53 PM

The Infamous Letter of Willie Lynch

[Willie Lynch's Speech of 1712.
An excerpt from The Bible of Success.
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The Chess Game of Willie Lynch

"Gentlemen, I greet you here on the bank of the James River in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and twelve. First, I shall thank you, the gentlemen of the Colony of Virginia, for bringing me here. I am here to help you solve some of your problems with slaves. Your invitation reached me on my modest plantation in the West Indies, where I have experimented with some of the newest and still oldest methods of control of slaves. Ancient Rome would envy us if my program is implemented.


As our boat sailed south on the James River, named for our illustrious King, whose version of the Bible we cherish, I saw enough to know that your problem is not unique. While Rome used cords of wood as crosses for standing human bodies along its highways in great numbers, you are here using the tree and the rope on occasion.


I caught the whiff of a dead slave hanging from a tree a couple of miles back. You are not only losing valuable stock by hangings, you are having uprisings, slaves are running away, your crops are sometimes left in the fields too long for maximum profit, you suffer occasional fires, your animals are killed, Gentlemen, you know what your problems are; I do not need to elaborate. I am not here to enumerate your problems. I am here to introduce you to a method of solving them. In my bag here, I have a full proof method for controlling your black slaves.


I guarantee everyone of you that if installed correctly, it will control the slaves for at least 300 years. My method is simple. Any member of your family or your overseer can use it.


Strategy One. Taking so many drops of good White blood and putting them into as many Black women as possible, varying the drops by the various tones that you want, and then letting them breed with each other until the circle of colors appear as you desire. What you've got is a multiplicity of colors. Cross-breeding completed, for further severance from their original beginning, we must completely annihilate the mother tongue and institute a new language that involves the new life's work. You know, language is a peculiar institution. It leads to the heart of a people.


Strategy Two. The more a foreigner knows about the language of another country, the more he is able to move through all levels of that society. Therefore, if the foreigner is an enemy of the country, to the extent that he knows the body of the language, to that extent is the country vulnerable to attack or invasion of a foreign culture. For example, you take a slave, if you teach him all about your language, he will know all your secrets, and he is then no more a slave, for you can't fool him any longer, and being a fool is one of the basic ingredients of and incident to the maintenance of the slavery system.


Strategy Three. I have outlined a number of differences among the slaves; and I take these differences and make them bigger. I use fear, distrust, and envy for control purposes. These methods have worked on my modest plantation in the West Indies and it will work throughout the South. Take this simple little list of differences, and think about them. On top of my list is "Age," but it is there only because it starts with an "A," and the second is "Color" or shade, there is intelligence, size, sex, size of plantations, status on plantations, attitude of owners, whether the slaves live in the valley, on a hill, East, West, North, South, have fine hair, coarse hair, or is tall or short. Now that you have a list of differences, I shall give you an outline for action, but before that, I shall assure you that distrust is stronger than trust and envy is stronger than adulation, respect or admiration.


Strategy Four. Break the spirit of the man much like you would break the spirit of a horse. And ride the woman as though she were a wild ass until she is tamed and offer no resistance. The Black slave after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self-refueling and self-generating for hundreds of years, maybe thousands. Don't forget you must pitch the old Black male vs. the young male. You must use the dark skin slaves vs. the light skin slaves, and the light skin slaves vs. the dark skin slaves. You must use the female vs. the male, and the male vs. the female. You must also have your White servants and overseers distrust all Blacks, but it is necessary that your slaves trust and depend on us. They must love, respect and trust only us.

Strategy Five. Bull whip the Black man in front of the woman and child until he gives up his will to resist. This leaves the woman feeling alone, unprotected by him, with his image destroyed. The ordeal will cause her to move from her psychological dependent state to a frozen independent state. In this frozen psychological state of independence, she will in turn raise her male and female offspring in reversed roles. For fear of the young male's life, she will psychologically train him to be mentally weak and dependent, but physically strong. Because she has become psychologically independent, she will train her female offspring to be psychologically independent.


Strategy Six. We talked about paying particular attention to the female and her offspring for orderly future planning; then, more recently we stated that, by reversing the positions of the male and female, we have created an orbiting cycle that turns on its own axis forever, unless a phenomena occurred and reshifted the positions of the male and female. The mind has a strong drive to correct and recorrect itself over a period of time.

Strategy Seven. The best way to deal with the phenomena is to shave their mental history and create a multiplicity of phenomena of illusions, so that each illusion will twirl in its own orbit, something similar to floating balls in a vacuum. Gentlemen, these kits are your keys to control. Use them. Have your wives and your children use them. Never miss an opportunity. If used intensely for one year, the slaves themselves will remain perpetually distrustful." ~Willie Lynch

Willie Lynch was a White supremacist who understood the use of principles, to cripple the minds of African slaves, and their descendants, to keep them out of the mainstream. The biblical principle, "As a man thinks he is in his heart, so is he" (Proverbs 23:7) was used as the primary seed to produce good crop in the White race, and bad crop in the Black race. His plan seemed fail proof because principles don't change, but they change people. And to cause a nation of people to think that they were born under-achievers is masterful, when you get them to accept it as a truth. For whatever we do in life, we will act like what we believe, even though we don't know that what we believe about ourselves is not true.

Breaking the spirit of him of dark skin, by chain and whip domination, caused him to submit his mind to the control of his White counterparts. Whatever they said or did was right in his eyes, for in his mind he didn't know where he was, or where he came from, to understand where he was going in life. Keeping him ignorant would keep him from reading the map that would lead to his freedom. When he gave up his will to fight for a better life from within, Complacency USA became his home, where he lost hope of ever being a high achiever by lawful means. He passed this thinking down to his sons and his daughters, who have kept the orbiting cycle going for hundreds of years, which Lynch calculated to last to year 2712, unless a phenomena occurred with an antidote to reverse his formula.

Later came the KKK as White power, with men hiding behind sheets, to keep others from recognizing their faces, as they burned the cross on lawns and burned down homes where it stood, and churches were torched killing people inside who gathered to praise and worship the living God, even though it was said that God wanted an Anglo-Saxon, pure, Christian race to surface the earth. But underneath is the truth that it is spiritual in nature, as hatred for Jesus Christ, for the symbols used are representative of Him: Cross-salvation, fire-the Holy Spirit, home-the family, and church-the body of Christ.


PART ONE
Mental History Reveals a Box Mentality.
Truth was kept from us when it came to uncovering our mental history. The authenticity of The Infamous Letter of Willie Lynch (the Letter), is evidenced by its truth seen in the behavioral patterns of some in both the White and Black races, who have box mentalities-a wrong is accepted as right. I was first partaker of this state of mind. Now it is time to stop being complacent about the issues of LIFE, and start opening some boxes, one at a time. I say this a lot, face it to erase it, and you can't get out of a box, unless you know that you're in.


No race in the history of slavery had their minds tampered with to produce intentional low self-esteem, as was him of dark skin, so as to keep him and his kin out of the mainstream of dollars for profit. Slaves were taught to think what their slave masters wanted them to think, and that was, they didn't deserve the best of anything~their brains did not have the capacity to produce anything from their bad seed, as they broke them down to feel less than, producing that fruit.


Reading for knowledge was against the law they established, including the Bible, but during church services, Scriptures were read to support their contention that the White race was God's chosen people and African slaves were their servants (Genesis 9:24-27; Deuteronomy 28:47-57). The blue-eyed portrait of Jesus Christ hung on the church wall to plant the seed that white was supreme, even though JESUS was born a Hebrew in a hot climate that supports dark skin. But the slave masters wanted him of dark skin and his kin to feel like God was against them by the cruel treatment given to them. And though Christianity was established many years prior to slavery, in America some called it the White man's religion, because they quoted certain Scriptures to shield their wrong. Nonetheless, many believed that freedom would come one day, as they sung Steal Away to Jesus. I ain't got long to stay here. Freedom came later with truth.


MY DIVINE ASSIGNMENT.
On December 29, 1995, I was a stranger in a strange city that was windy and cold, having come from sunny California. I was out of my comfort zone with an assignment from God to "write." The second day in Chicago South Side, I was given to read the Letter which looked like it had been handled many times, from its appearance. As I read, it felt like I had a fire burning inside my stomach, and it wasn't a burning ulcer. Then half way down the Letter, I had a vision that I would be used to do a reversal. I pondered what I read, not having a clue how. Time would tell more than I could have ever imagined as I journeyed into the unknown, in search of truth about LIFE, and why I occupied space on Planet Earth.


"Shave their mental history and create a multiplicity of phenomena of illusions."
~Willie Lynch
Six months later, at 2:00 A.M., I awoke to words of inspiration, and penned, Life is in the Mind of a Black People, and then 5 other books followed as though I was doing a research project. I saw inside the race from which I came, but didn't know that well having lived in a different world, as a White woman in a Black woman's body. By that I mean I embraced the White culture as my own, denying in part my own existence as a Black woman because I grew up in corporate America. Over time, it became crystal clear what Lynch had done, even to me, as I saw into his methodical chess game, as the great-granddaughter of African and American slaves (descendants of African slavery made slaves in America).


Two questions arose. The first one was, "Why did I have red skin, looking like an American Indian with African features?" With a little probing into the memories of others, I found out that I was born with red hair and named Sandy, which means "Helper of mankind." I inherited my mother's molds, my dad's Nigerian nose, and lips and red skin is the Cherokee side, which came through my father's lineage of slaves mixing with native Indians in Meridian, or Dekalb, Mississippi. Look around you. There are a lot of African-Americans who have Indian features.


A box lid opened and the light of truth came in. Interestingly, while great-grandpa Matt was African, great-grandma Harriett was not, nor are my parents, just a part. But our race is called African-Americans, even though I am part African and part Indian, which makes me African-Indian, and my nationality American, as my birthplace. Most folks are part something, researchers say, except for the original African, who is credited with providing the genetic DNA of the human race.


The other question was, "How long would the Black race suffer shame and disgrace?" The answer had been given before the question was asked, when God said to me, "My people don't believe My Word." We were history makers, as I witnessed history unfolding before my eyes as God let me see inside the mind of Willie Lynch as though he was a part of me, and I a part of him, as He took me deeper inside the Letter to see both the White and Black races inside of me, and me inside the Word. Then I saw into, "If you don't know where you came from, you can't know where you are going." I was on a journey-moving back in time, to move forward with time to Destiny Street, going through The 7 Deadly Sins. It was a real drama story I was in-walking through the Word of God.

Have you ever seen a trick box given as a gift? You pull out one box, then another, and then another, before you get to the smaller one, as your gift. In a box mentality, you are confined to your own space of thought. You can't see the big picture beyond your nose. You know what you know and no more, although you know so much that ain't so, but don't know it, until you open some box lids.

The Tight Lid of "I" and "My."

Your mind knows what it knows inside that space, and wants no more unless you're interested in expanding your mind with new information. You're frozen in time. Everything you see and hear will be about you, inside your box of pride that speaks in terms of "I" and "My," and it has a tight lid. The other boxes inside are fear, distrust, envy, laziness, passivity, procrastination, anger, to name a few.

You don't want to look at your bad because it hurts too much. So you put yourself in a different light around those you want to impress, for their light you want to project-pretending to be where they are, without paying the price to shine as bright as their bulb. You're blind in mind with a low watt, not able to see beyond your space. But there's hope, if you're willing to deal with your own issues with honesty, and open your lids as they did. When you do, humility will rise, instead of puffed up pride. Humility makes you teachable, when you admit that you don't know what you need to know, to come out of the box. Some boxes are inherited through genes, and others are environmental traits, from seed sowing words.

African slavery was a business proposition for the rich, who bought land, and slaves to work the land. Lynch's methodical plan would help them remain wealthy long after slavery was abolished. But some who were not endowed with knowledge or dollars, kept slavery alive-fueling their pride of feeling superior, feeling less than, expressing their basic human nature of a need to control. When you have hated people for so long just because, to stop you're left without a cause to support your existence.

But Lynch was right, the mind over a period of time has a desire to recorrect itself, as the Holy Spirit quicken my mind to see his Plan of Dependency. We have to be cut from the umbilical cord of dependency on others to depend on God, as dependency causes laziness. Now the Bible is our instruction, "And it shall come to pass in that day...that the remnant of Israel...will never again depend on him who defeated them. But will depend on the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth" (Isaiah 10:20). I was inside this Word. It was personal to me.

Life is like a chess game.

A drama story. The chess game was in play. The goal of the game was control. The method used was the mind as the playing field. The end result would be passivity as captivity. Passive people don't fight for their rights, and they accept wrong for right without a fight. They offer no resistance to being mistreated, or being dependent on others. It was a chess game of the mind, using the intellect, over-working the emotions, to abuse the will. The intellect would be on the side of the white pieces, and the emotions on the side of the black pieces. The intellect would respond to difficult situations to overcome an issue. The emotions would react during difficult times, making it an issue to overcome.

[Who found The Infamous Letter of Willie Lynch, or where it is chronicled is unknown to me. It is reprinted in part here for the subject matter I reference, i.e., The Chess Game of Willie Lynch.]

This is an excerpt from The Bible of Success.
Copyright 2002 by Sandy Cotton.


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November 17, 2003 2:08 PM

As horrid and distasteful as this LETTER displays the diabolical white race's persona, the fact is, this is the demonic mentality that was passed down to them and is acted on by them just as the house negro mentality was passed down and acted upon.

And, just as the truthful spirit of BLACK RESISTANCE was passed down and acted thereon. All are acting on the same spirit of yesteryear, be it the BLACK POWERFUL TRUTHFUL SPIRIT or the DEMONIC WHITE SPIRIT OF THE DIABOLICAL WHITE RACE.

We need to have an exorcism to deliver coloreds who see the diabolical white race as Christlike in spite of their twisted, demonic actions.

It's a BITTER PILL that BLACK WOMEN must swallow but it is also the only way in which we must go to deliver ourselves from this evil. It's the WHITE evil our God has come down to crush and PERMANENTLY deliver us from.
 
 
 
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December 19, 2003 4:40 PM

...AND THIS MAN WORK IS STILL AMOUNG US TODAY!!
 
 
 
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December 19, 2003 7:49 PM

Leaving aside the "diabolical white race" comments for a moment, where is the actual Willie Lynch Letter kept? Is it on display somewhere in a museum or in a private collection? Where is it?
 
 
 
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December 20, 2003 1:08 AM

It won't be found because it's a hoax. If we make ourselves familiar with 18th-century writing and speech patterns we will easily see that this is not an 18th-century document.

It's a modern forgery.
 
 
 
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December 20, 2003 2:00 PM

Here's an example of eighteenth-century writing and speaking. It's from Sam Adams, about 50 years later than the supposed letter of Willie Lynch, but it gives you an idea of the way that people communicated back then:

I have taken some pains to enquire into the true Character of the Minister in the American Department. And I find that all allow
him to be a good man. Goodness has rarely I fear been of late the Chracteristick of his Majestys Ministers; for which reason his
Lordship is to be sure the more highly to be prizd. But it seems very necessary that Men in such elevated Stations should be great as well as good. The Promotion of a nobleman to this Department, who is famed in America for his Piety is easily accounted for on the principles of modern Policy. However illy we may deserve it, the great men in England have an opinion of us as being a mightily religious People. Surely than it must be supposd that we shall place an entire Confidence in a Minister of the same
Character. We find it so in fact. How many were filled with the most sanguine Expectations, when they heard that the good Lord Dartmouth was entrusted with a Share in Administration? Little did they think that if his Lordship did not come in upon express terms, which however is doubted by some, yet without a Greatness
of mind equal, perhaps superior to his Goodness, it will be impossible for him singly to stem the Torrent of Corruption. This
requires much more Fortitude than I yet believe he is possesd of. Fain would I have him treated with great Decency & Respect, both for the Station he is in and the Character he sustains; but considering with whom he is connected, I confess that in regard to any power he will have substantially to serve us, I am an Infidel.

This, from Daniel Defoe, a contemporary of the soemtime Willie Lynch:

In this house, on the 8th of September, 1705, she was sitting alone in the forenoon, thinking over her unfortunate life, and arguing herself into a due resignation to providence, though her condition seemed hard. And, said she, I have been provided for hitherto, and doubt not but I shall be still; and am well satisfied that my afflictions shall end when it is most fit for me: and then took up her sewing-work, which she had no sooner done, but she hears a knocking at the door. She went to see who was there, and this proved to be Mrs. Veal, her old friend, who was in a riding-habit. At that moment of time the clock struck twelve at noon.

From Samuel Johnson:

Let Hist'ry tell where rival Kings command,
And dubious Title shakes the madded Land,
When Statutes glean the Refuse of the Sword,
How much more safe the Vassal than the Lord,
Low sculks the Hind beneath the Rage of Pow'r,
And leaves the bonny Traytor in the Tow'r,
Untouch'd his Cottage, and his Slumbers sound,
Tho' Confiscation's Vulturs clang around.

The needy Traveller, serene and gay,
Walks the wild Heath, and sings his Toil away.
Does Envy seize thee? crush th'upbraiding Joy,
Encrease his Riches and his Peace destroy,
New Fears in dire Vicissitude invade,
The rustling Brake alarms, and quiv'ring Shade,
Nor Light nor Darkness bring his Pain Relief,
One shews the Plunder, and one hides the Thief.


As you can see, eighteenth-century literature and speech was quite different from the style of this purported letter or speech of one Willie Lynch, who apparently spoke as if he were 300 years ahead of his time, and therefore the only person on earth who spoke like this at the time. If so, of course, he would not have had much of an audience.

No, this letter is a fake. But then, it would not be the first fake that Profitlessrage has tried to foist on others.
 
 
 
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December 21, 2003 12:50 AM

"It won't be found because it's a hoax. If we make ourselves familiar with 18th-century writing and speech patterns we will easily see that this is not an 18th-century document.

It's a modern forgery."

Exactly. I have never been able to find anyone who could get around that. The shame of it is that we already know what was going on during slavery and we already understand what belief systems were in place to maintain it, so the addition of this letter (which exists nowhere outside the internet) is completely unnecessary. But people swear by it. I had this argument earlier on swagga and made the same points you do about the speech, but there are so many other indications that it's false:


  • Again, the actual transcript has never been seen.
  • The speech, as you mentioned, is incongruent with the English spoken at the time.
  • There is no record either in correspondance, newpaper, or any other source that make even the most passing reference to the speech or to Lynch.
  • It is improbable in the extreme that Lynch would have made the journey all the way from the West Indies to Virginia just to give a 10 minute speech. Even if he had traveled by plane it would have been ridiculous.
  • Finally, a rather obvious oversight. If Lynch gave a speech that day, any transcript of it would have been called a speech, not a letter. He is alleged to have spoken these words to an audience, not written them to a colleague that day, therefore we would not refer to it as the Lynch Letter for the same reason we don't refer to Dr. King's "I Have a Dream" Letter. It doesn't make sense.


While I understand the anger at being confronted with such inciteful words, I am even more surprised at the ease with which Rage and others have accepted them. As I said, we already know that the system of oppression involved strategies intended to break the will and spirit of the oppressed, and we don't need Lynch to see that. That information has been there all along. There is nothing to be gained by subjecting ourselves willingly to lies and half truths.

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December 21, 2003 8:08 AM

I doubt that most americans at that time spoke and wrote in the same manner as Adams,Johnson, and Dafoe. Their styles seem particularly British/New England influenced. I would assume that a larger percentage of the populace was either illiterate, or merely functionally literate and may have spoken in a less formal manner. Still, it can be noted that "educated slaves" such as Phyllis Wheatly and Frederick Douglass, did write and speak in a much more artistic and formal way.

BUT WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHEN THE REAL INTENT OF THE "LETTER" IS HIGHLIGHTING TACTICS USED BY SLAVEOWNERS TO MANIPULATE AND "MANAGE" OUR PEOPLE? WE SHOULD INDEED BE OUTRAGED BY SUCH INFORMATION. AS THE JEWS SAY "NEVER FORGET".

I find it very interesting that the writing style of this particular piece of information seemed worth more dissection than the effect of the practices upon african people described within it....
 
 
 
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December 21, 2003 2:01 PM

"I doubt that most americans at that time spoke and wrote in the same manner as Adams,Johnson, and Dafoe. Their styles seem particularly British/New England influenced. I would assume that a larger percentage of the populace was either illiterate, or merely functionally literate and may have spoken in a less formal manner. Still, it can be noted that "educated slaves" such as Phyllis Wheatly and Frederick Douglass, did write and speak in a much more artistic and formal way."

None of which would make their language look anything like ours. Our current dialect of English is not a "dumbed-down" version of that spoken 300 years ago, and any linguist would have a hard time accepting what is written in that letter as anything but a forgery.

"BUT WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHEN THE REAL INTENT OF THE "LETTER" IS HIGHLIGHTING TACTICS USED BY SLAVEOWNERS TO MANIPULATE AND "MANAGE" OUR PEOPLE? WE SHOULD INDEED BE OUTRAGED BY SUCH INFORMATION. AS THE JEWS SAY "NEVER FORGET"."

I find it very interesting that the writing style of this particular piece of information seemed worth more dissection than the effect of the practices upon african people described within it...."

What I find interesting is that you and Rage and others seem to have accepted the sentiment of the Letter so completely that you are more concerned about defending it than you are about the fact that you are being lied to, and are even complicit in the lie. Have we become so accustomed to falsehood that the search for truth has devolved into merely separating acceptable lies from unacceptable ones?

Look, I have said it enough before that it shouldn't bear repeating, but we already know from reliable sources what tactics were employed to subjugate slaves, so our acceptance of a forged Lynch Letter is not only unnecessary, it's damaging. What you fail to see is that the valid accusations of oppression and mental subjugation are only trivialized when they are represented by an outright lie. Promoting the Letter as the fountainhead of black self-hate won't simply make people aware of those issues, it will cause people not take it or us seriously. If the best we can come up with is an event that never happened, then what are we complaining about? That is an insult to our ancestors whose struggles were real and documented, and a slap in the face to those of us who are genuinely interested in them. If we want to promote awareness of systems like those in the Letter, we're just going to have to do our homework and find real examples of it at work. No false document will ever be more compelling or more irrefutable than the truth.


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December 21, 2003 7:43 PM

Amen.

If something is not true, let us say so and thus show the world that we are committed to truth. Then when we do speak of slavery and its effects we will have the moral authority to be listened to.

There is enough truth in this world about slavery that we do not need any lie to bolster our case. It is already strong. Stay with the strength of the truth and let lies be exposed for what they are.
 
 
 
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December 22, 2003 3:27 PM

negrospiritual,

If you can find in eighteenth-century writing any use of the word "psychology" as it is used more than once in this "letter," I'll believe you. "Psychological dependent state"? "Frozen independent state"? "Psychologically train him"? The eighteenth century didn't have tehse terms. Psychology was not a study or a science of its own until the nineteenth century. Before that it was part of philosophy, even perhaps natural philosophy, but it was never used as it is used in this supposed "letter" in 1712. Try to find it. Yo won't be able to. This letter is a fake and we need to announce it so. Then we can get on to speaking the truth.
 
 
 
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December 22, 2003 3:53 PM

Yea that particular letter may not be valid, but best belive there was a method and a system of making a slave that was commonly used by planters

"I AM BECAUSE WE ARE"
 
 
 
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December 22, 2003 4:27 PM

I have to believe that the "Letter" is a fabrication written by a Black person, similar to the "Klan Thank-you Letter" that went around a couple of years ago. And like any myth, it's (their) purpose is to explain something, in this case the divisive in our community.

However, whether the "Letter" is authentic or not does not negate the fact that effective slave management was taught just as the other aspects of plantation management.
 
 
 
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December 22, 2003 5:06 PM

No one that I know of disputes that. There probably are those who do, but none of my aquaintances do.
 
 
 
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December 22, 2003 7:08 PM

Gentlemen, I greet you here on the bank of the James River in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and twelve. First, I shall thank you, the gentlemen of the Colony of Virginia, for bringing me here. I am here to help you solve some of your problems with slaves. Your invitation reached me on my modest plantation in the West Indies where I have experimented with some of the newest and still the oldest methods of control of slaves. Ancient Rome would envy us if my program were implemented. As our boat sailed south on the James River, named for our illustrious King, whose version of the Bible we cherish. I saw enough to know that your problem is not unique. While Rome used cords of woods as crosses for standing human bodies along its highways in great numbers you are here using the tree and the rope on occasion.
I caught the whiff of a dead slave hanging from a tree a couple of miles back. You are not only losing a valuable stock by hangings, you are having uprisings, slaves are running away, your crops are sometimes left in the fields too long for maximum profit, you suffer occasional fires, your animals are killed. Gentlemen, you know what your problems are: I do not need to elaborate. I am not here to enumerate your problems, I am here to introduce you to a method of solving them. In my bag here, I have a fool proof method for controlling your Black slaves. I guarantee everyone of you that if installed correctly it will control the slaves for at least 300 hundred years. My method is simple. Any member of your family or your overseer can use it.

I have outlined a number of differences among the slaves: and I take these differences and make them bigger. I use fear, distrust, and envy for control purposes. These methods have worked on my modest plantation in the West Indies and it will work throughout the South. Take this simple little list of differences, and think about them. On top of my list is "Age", but it is there only because it starts with an "A": the second is "Color" or shade, there is intelligence, size, sex, size of plantations, status on plantation, attitude of owners, whether the slave live in the valley, on hill, East, West, North, South, have fine hair, coarse hair, or is tall or short. Now that you have a list of differences. I shall give you an outline of action-but before that I shall assure you that distrust is stronger than trust and envy is stronger than adulation, respect, or admiration.

The Black slave after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self re-fueling and self generating for hundreds of years, maybe thousands. Don't forget you must pitch the old Black male vs. the young Black male, and the young Black male against the old Black male. You must use the dark skin slaves vs. the light skin slaves and the light skin slaves vs. the dark skin slaves. You must use the female vs. the male, and the male vs. the female. You must also have your white servants and overseers distrust all Blacks, but it is necessary that your slaves trust and depend on us. They must love, respect and trust only us. Gentlemen, these kits are your keys to control. Use them. Have your wives and children use them, never miss an opportunity. If used intensely for one year, the slaves themselves will remain perpetually distrustful. Thank you, gentlemen.
 
 
 
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December 22, 2003 7:11 PM

Meaning of Place Name: Lynchburg, Virginia
Lynchburg, Virginia: From the original patentee, John Lynch, brother of Charles Lynch, the reputed originator of what is known as "Lynch Law."


Lynch Law in America

By Ida B. Wells-Barnett in 1900


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OUR country's national crime is lynching. It is not the creature of an hour, the sudden outburst of uncontrolled fury, or the unspeakable brutality of an insane mob. It represents the cool, calculating deliberation of intelligent people who openly avow that there is an "unwritten law" that justifies them in putting human beings to death without complaint under oath, without trial by jury, without opportunity to make defense, and without right of appeal. The "unwritten law" first found excuse with the rough, rugged, and determined man who left the civilized centers of eastern States to seek for quick returns in the gold-fields of the far West. Following in uncertain pursuit of continually eluding fortune, they dared the savagery of the Indians, the hardships of mountain travel, and the constant terror of border State outlaws. Naturally, they felt slight toleration for traitors in their own ranks. It was enough to fight the enemies from without; woe to the foe within! Far removed from and entirely without protection of the courts of civilized life, these fortune-seekers made laws to meet their varying emergencies. The thief who stole a horse, the bully who "jumped" a claim, was a common enemy. If caught he was promptly tried, and if found guilty was hanged to the tree under which the court convened. Those were busy days of busy men. They had no time to give the prisoner a bill of exception or stay of execution. The only way a man had to secure a stay of execution was to behave himself. Judge Lynch was original in methods but exceedingly effective in procedure. He made the charge, impaneled the jurors, and directed the execution. When the court adjourned, the prisoner was dead. Thus lynch law held sway in the far West until civilization spread into the Territories and the orderly processes of law took its place. The emergency no longer existing, lynching gradually disappeared from the West. But the spirit of mob procedure seemed to have fastened itself upon the lawless classes, and the grim process that at first was invoked to declare justice was made the excuse to wreak vengeance and cover crime. It next appeared in the South, where centuries of Anglo-Saxon civilization had made effective all the safeguards of court procedure. No emergency called for lynch law. It asserted its sway in defiance of law and in favor of anarchy. There it has flourished ever since, marking the thirty years of its existence with the inhuman butchery of more than ten thousand men, women, and children by shooting, drowning, hanging, and burning them alive. Not only this, but so potent is the force of example that the lynching mania has spread throughout the North and middle West. It is now no uncommon thing to read of lynchings north of Mason and Dixon's line, and those most responsible for this fashion gleefully point to these instances and assert that the North is no better than the South. This is the work of the "unwritten law" about which so much is said, and in whose behest butchery is made a pastime and national savagery condoned. The first statute of this "unwritten law" was written in the blood of thousands of brave men who thought that a government that was good enough to create a citizenship was strong enough to protect it. Under the authority of a national law that gave every citizen the right to vote, the newly-made citizens chose to exercise their suffrage. But the reign of the national law was short-lived and illusionary. Hardly had the sentences dried upon the statute-books before one Southern State after another raised the cry against "negro domination" and proclaimed there was an "unwritten law" that justified any means to resist it. The method then inaugurated was the outrages by the "red-shirt" bands of Louisiana, South Carolina, and other Southern States, which were succeeded by the Ku-Klux Klans. These advocates of the "unwritten law" boldly avowed their purpose to intimidate, suppress, and nullify the negro's right to vote. In support of its plans the Ku-Klux Klans, the "red-shirt" and similar organizations proceeded to beat, exile, and kill negroes until the purpose of their organization was accomplished and the supremacy of the "unwritten law" was effected. Thus lynchings began in the South, rapidly spreading into the various States until the national law was nullified and the reign of the "unwritten law" was supreme. Men were taken from their homes by "red-shirt" bands and stripped, beaten, and exiled; others were assassinated when their political prominence made them obnoxious to their political opponents; while the Ku-Klux barbarism of election days, reveling in the butchery of thousands of colored voters, furnished records in Congressional investigations that are a disgrace to civilization. The alleged menace of universal suffrage having been avoided by the absolute suppression of the negro vote, the spirit of mob murder should have been satisfied and the butchery of negroes should have ceased. But men, women, and children were the victims of murder by individuals and murder by mobs, just as they had been when killed at the demands of the "unwritten law" to prevent "negro domination." Negroes were killed for disputing over terms of contracts with their employers. If a few barns were burned some colored man was killed to stop it. If a colored man resented the imposition of a white man and the two came to blows, the colored man had to die, either at the hands of the white man then and there or later at the hands of a mob that speedily gathered. If he showed a spirit of courageous manhood he was hanged for his pains, and the killing was justified by the declaration that he was a "saucy nigger." Colored women have been murdered because they refused to tell the mobs where relatives could be found for "lynching bees." Boys of fourteen years have been lynched by white representatives of American civilization. In fact, for all kinds of offenses--and, for no offenses--from murders to misdemeanors, men and women are put to death without judge or jury; so that, although the political excuse was no longer necessary, the wholesale murder of human beings went on just the same. A new name was given to the killings and a new excuse was invented for so doing. Again the aid of the "unwritten law" is invoked, and again it comes to the rescue. During the last ten years a new statute has been added to the "unwritten law." This statute proclaims that for certain crimes or alleged crimes no negro shall be allowed a trial; that no white woman shall be compelled to charge an assault under oath or to submit any such charge to the investigation of a court of law. The result is that many men have been put to death whose innocence was afterward established; and to-day, under this reign of the "unwritten law," no colored man, no matter what his reputation, is safe from lynching if a white woman, no matter what her standing or motive, cares to charge him with insult or assault. It is considered a sufficient excuse and reasonable justification to put a prisoner to death under this "unwritten law" for the frequently repeated charge that these lynching horrors are necessary to prevent crimes against women. The sentiment of the country has been appealed to, in describing the isolated condition of white families in thickly populated negro districts; and the charge is made that these homes are in as great danger as if they were surrounded by wild beasts. And the world has accepted this theory without let or hindrance. In many cases there has been open expression that the fate meted out to the victim was only what he deserved. In many other instances there has been a silence that says more forcibly than words can proclaim it that it is right and proper that a human being should be seized by a mob and burned to death upon the unsworn and the uncorroborated charge of his accuser. No matter that our laws presume every man innocent until he is proved guilty; no matter that it leaves a certain class of individuals completely at the mercy of another class; no matter that it encourages those criminally disposed to blacken their faces and commit any crime in the calendar so long as they can throw suspicion on some negro, as is frequently done, and then lead a mob to take his life; no matter that mobs make a farce of the law and a mockery of justice; no matter that hundreds of boys are being hardened in crime and schooled in vice by the repetition of such scenes before their eyes--if a white woman declares herself insulted or assaulted, some life must pay the penalty, with all the horrors of the Spanish Inquisition and all the barbarism of the Middle Ages. The world looks on and says it is well. Not only are two hundred men and women put to death annually, on the average, in this country by mobs, but these lives are taken with the greatest publicity. In many instances the leading citizens aid and abet by their presence when they do not participate, and the leading journals inflame the public mind to the lynching point with scare-head articles and offers of rewards. Whenever a burning is advertised to take place, the railroads run excursions, photographs are taken, and the same jubilee is indulged in that characterized the public hangings of one hundred years ago. There is, however, this difference: in those old days the multitude that stood by was permitted only to guy or jeer. The nineteenth century lynching mob cuts off ears, toes, and fingers, strips off flesh, and distributes portions of the body as souvenirs among the crowd. If the leaders of the mob are so minded, coal-oil is poured over the body and the victim is then roasted to death. This has been done in Texarkana and Paris, Tex., in Bardswell, Ky., and in Newman, Ga. In Paris the officers of the law delivered the prisoner to the mob. The mayor gave the school children a holiday and the railroads ran excursion trains so that the people might see a human being burned to death. In Texarkana, the year before, men and boys amused themselves by cutting off strips of flesh and thrusting knives into their helpless victim. At Newman, Ga., of the present year, the mob tried every conceivable torture to compel the victim to cry out and confess, before they set fire to the faggots that burned him. But their trouble was all in vain--he never uttered a cry, and they could not make him confess. This condition of affairs were brutal enough and horrible enough if it were true that lynchings occurred only because of the commission of crimes against women--as is constantly declared by ministers, editors, lawyers, teachers, statesmen, and even by women themselves. It has been to the interest of those who did the lynching to blacken the good name of the helpless and defenseless victims of their hate. For this reason they publish at every possible opportunity this excuse for lynching, hoping thereby not only to palliate their own crime but at the same time to prove the negro a moral monster and unworthy of the respect and sympathy of the civilized world. But this alleged reason adds to the deliberate injustice of the mob's work. Instead of lynchings being caused by assaults upon women, the statistics show that not one-third of the victims of lynchings are even charged with such crimes. The Chicago Tribune, which publishes annually lynching statistics, is authority for the following: In 1892, when lynching reached high-water mark, there were 241 persons lynched. The entire number is divided among the following States:
Alabama......... 22 Montana.......... 4
Arkansas........ 25 New York......... 1
California...... 3 North Carolina... 5
Florida......... 11 North Dakota..... 1
Georgia......... 17 Ohio............. 3
Idaho........... 8 South Carolina... 5
Illinois........ 1 Tennessee........ 28
Kansas.......... 3 Texas............ 15
Kentucky........ 9 Virginia......... 7
Louisiana....... 29 West Virginia.... 5
Maryland........ 1 Wyoming.......... 9
Mississippi..... 16 Arizona Ter...... 3
Missouri........ 6 Oklahoma......... 2
Of this number, 160 were of negro descent. Four of them were lynched in New York, Ohio, and Kansas; the remainder were murdered in the South. Five of this number were females. The charges for which they were lynched cover a wide range. They are as follows:

Rape.................. 46 Attempted rape...... 11
Murder................ 58 Suspected robbery... 4
Rioting............... 3 Larceny............. 1
Race Prejudice........ 6 Self-defense........ 1
No cause given........ 4 Insulting women.... 2
Incendiarism.......... 6 Desperadoes......... 6
Robbery............... 6 Fraud............... 1
Assault and battery... 1 Attempted murder.... 2
No offense stated, boy and girl.............. 2

In the case of the boy and girl above referred to, their father, named Hastings, was accused of the murder of a white man. His fourteen-year-old daughter and sixteen-year-old son were hanged and their bodies filled with bullets; then the father was also lynched. This occurred in November, 1892, at Jonesville, La.
Indeed, the record for the last twenty years shows exactly the same or a smaller proportion who have been charged with this horrible crime. Quite a number of the one-third alleged cases of assault that have been personally investigated by the writer have shown that there was no foundation in fact for the charges; yet the claim is not made that there were no real culprits among them. The negro has been too long associated with the white man not to have copied his vices as well as his virtues. But the negro resents and utterly repudiates the efforts to blacken his good name by asserting that assaults upon women are peculiar to his race. The negro has suffered far more from the commission of this crime against the women of his race by white men than the white race has ever suffered through his crimes. Very scant notice is taken of the matter when this is the condition of affairs. What becomes a crime deserving capital punishment when the tables are turned is a matter of small moment when the negro woman is the accusing party.
But since the world has accepted this false and unjust statement, and the burden of proof has been placed upon the negro to vindicate his race, he is taking steps to do so. The Anti-Lynching Bureau of the National Afro-American Council is arranging to have every lynching investigated and publish the facts to the world, as has been done in the case of Sam Hose, who was burned alive last April at Newman, Ga. The detective's report showed that Hose killed Cranford, his employer, in self-defense, and that, while a mob was organizing to hunt Hose to punish him for killing a white man, not till twenty-four hours after the murder was the charge of rape, embellished with psychological and physical impossibilities, circulated. That gave an impetus to the hunt, and the Atlanta Constitution's reward of $500 keyed the mob to the necessary burning and roasting pitch. Of five hundred newspaper clippings of that horrible affair, nine-tenths of them assumed Hose's guilt--simply because his murderers said so, and because it is the fashion to believe the negro peculiarly addicted to this species of crime. All the negro asks is justice--a fair and impartial trial in the courts of the country. That given, he will abide the result.
But this question affects the entire American nation, and from several points of view: First, on the ground of consistency. Our watchword has been "the land of the free and the home of the brave." Brave men do not gather by thousands to torture and murder a single individual, so gagged and bound he cannot make even feeble resistance or defense. Neither do brave men or women stand by and see such things done without compunction of conscience, nor read of them without protest. Our nation has been active and outspoken in its endeavors to right the wrongs of the Armenian Christian, the Russian Jew, the Irish Home Ruler, the native women of India, the Siberian exile, and the Cuban patriot. Surely it should be the nation's duty to correct its own evils!
Second, on the ground of economy. To those who fail to be convinced from any other point of view touching this momentous question, a consideration of the economic phase might not be amiss. It is generally known that mobs in Louisiana, Colorado, Wyoming, and other States have lynched subjects of other countries. When their different governments demanded satisfaction, our country was forced to confess her inability to protect said subjects in the several States because of our State-rights doctrines, or in turn demand punishment of the lynchers. This confession, while humiliating in the extreme, was not satisfactory; and, while the United States cannot protect, she can pay. This she has done, and it is certain will have to do again in the case of the recent lynching of Italians in Louisiana. The United States already has paid in indemnities for lynching nearly a half million dollars, as follows:

Paid China for Rock Springs (Wyo.) massacre........... $147,748.74
Paid China for outrages on Pacific Coast.............. 276,619.75
Paid Italy for massacre of Italian prisoners at New Orleans ........................... 24,330.90
Paid Italy for lynchings at Walsenburg, Col ............ 10,000.00
Paid Great Britain for outrages on James Bain and Frederick Dawson ................... 2,800.00

Third, for the honor of Anglo-Saxon civilization. No scoffer at our boasted American civilization could say anything more harsh of it than does the American white man himself who says he is unable to protect the honor of his women without resort to such brutal, inhuman, and degrading exhibitions as characterize "lynching bees." The cannibals of the South Sea Islands roast human beings alive to satisfy hunger. The red Indian of the Western plains tied his prisoner to the stake, tortured him, and danced in fiendish glee while his victim writhed in the flames. His savage, untutored mind suggested no better way than that of wreaking vengeance upon those who had wronged him. These people knew nothing about Christianity and did not profess to follow its teachings; but such primary laws as they had they lived up to. No nation, savage or civilized, save only the United States of America, has confessed its inability to protect its women save by hanging, shooting, and burning alleged offenders.
Finally, for love of country. No American travels abroad without blushing for shame for his country on this subject. And whatever the excuse that passes current in the United States, it avails nothing abroad. With all the powers of government in control; with all laws made by white men, administered by white judges, jurors, prosecuting attorneys, and sheriffs; with every office of the executive department filled by white men--no excuse can be offered for exchanging the orderly administration of justice for barbarous lynchings and "unwritten laws." Our country should be placed speedily above the plane of confessing herself a failure at self-government. This cannot be until Americans of every section, of broadest patriotism and best and wisest citizenship, not only see the defect in our country's armor but take the necessary steps to remedy it. Although lynchings have steadily increased in number and barbarity during the last twenty years, there has been no single effort put forth by the many moral and philanthropic forces of the country to put a stop to this wholesale slaughter. Indeed, the silence and seeming condonation grow more marked as the years go by.
A few months ago the conscience of this country was shocked because, after a two-weeks trial, a French judicial tribunal pronounced Captain Dreyfus guilty. And yet, in our own land and under our own flag, the writer can give day and detail of one thousand men, women, and children who during the last six years were put to death without trial before any tribunal on earth. Humiliating indeed, but altogether unanswerable, was the reply of the French press to our protest: "Stop your lynchings at home before you send your protests abroad."
IDA B. WELLS-BARNETT
Chicago

Charles Lynch
LYNCH, Charles, soldier, born in Virginia; died near Staunton, Campbell County, Virginia, about 1785. He was the colonel of a regiment of riflemen that behaved with gallantry at Guilford. The term "lynch law" is said to have been derived from his practice of executing without trial the members of a band of Tory marauders that infested the newly settled country. Another account derives the term from the summary methods taken by a planter named John Lynch to rid the region of outlaws and escaped slaves who took refuge in the Dismal Swamp. This may have been Colonel Charles's brother John, who founded the town of Lynchburg. Va., and who is said by some authorities to have been the original "Judge Lynch": while others trace the phrase back to one Lynch who was sent to America to punish pirates about 1687, or to the mayor of Galway, Ireland, who in 1493 executed his own son for murder. A tradition of the Drake family of North Carolina ascribes the phrase to the precipitate hanging, to prevent a rescue, of a Tory named Major Beard on Lynch creek in Franklin county, North Carolina When it was found that the Tories were not in pursuit, the captors went through the forms of a court-martial, and hanged the lifeless body in execution of its decree.--His son, Charles, born in Virginia; died near Natchez, Mississippi, 16 February, 1853, was governor of Mississippi from 1835 till 1837.
 
 
 
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December 22, 2003 7:38 PM

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I caught the whiff of a dead slave hanging from a tree a couple of miles back.
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LOL!!! And I catch "the whiff" of a bunch of modern negroes who should know better being duped. Again. Though, this time, not by whitey! Big Grin
 
 
 
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December 22, 2003 8:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by djonmaila:

None of which would make their language look anything like ours. Our current dialect of English is not a "dumbed-down" version of that spoken 300 years ago, and any linguist would have a lard time accepting what is written in that letter as anything but a forgery.

I did not state that the language of 300 years ago is similar to current american english. In fact, I stated that even slaves wrote in a more artistic and formal manner. But, since forgery would inheirantly be a "copy" of an original, wouldn't a historical linguist have to call this a work of fiction?

What I find interesting is that you and Rage and others seem to have accepted the sentiment of the Letter so completely that you are more concerned about defending it than you are about the fact that you are being lied to, and are even complicit in the lie. Have we become so accustomed to falsehood that the search for truth has devolved into merely separating acceptable lies from unacceptable ones?


Please state segments of my reply which appear to be defending the linguistic validity of the willie lynch letter? All oppressed cultures have literature which is historical, or political propaganda, or fiction based on actual events. Who gave the edict that materials meant to spur thought, conversation, and interest in the effects of slavery must be reflective of historical events only? A large body of fiction, some award winning, surrounds the jewish holocaust. It serves to keep people aware of the horrors. It would be obsurd to tell readers that they must only read historical accounts of the atrocities committed against jews. It is obsurd to imply the same about literature concerning atrocities committed against africans.
 
 
 
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December 22, 2003 8:55 PM

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Originally posted by Melesi:
negrospiritual,

If you can find in eighteenth-century writing any use of the word "psychology" as it is used more than once in this "letter," I'll believe you.


believe me about what? You do realize that I have not asserted that the letter was written in 18th century virginia? I have indeed, however, asserted that the intent or the sentiment of the letter is more important than when it was written. Is that the premise you are challenging?
 
 
 
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December 23, 2003 2:45 PM

The Willie Lynch letter is right up there with the Maya Angelou poem about clothes....
 
 
 
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December 23, 2003 3:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by negrospiritual:
quote:
Originally posted by Melesi:
negrospiritual,

_If you can find in eighteenth-century writing any use of the word "psychology" as it is used more than once in this "letter," I'll believe you. _


believe me about what? You do realize that I have not asserted that the letter was written in 18th century virginia? I have indeed, however, asserted that the intent or the sentiment of the letter is more important than when it was written. Is that the premise you are challenging?


Hi Negrospiritual, see what a imbecillic, moronic, parasitical twit you are dealing with? Why bother wasting intelligence on utter ignorance.

The fact is, what is NOT fake is the STRATEGY WITHIN THE WILLIE LYNCH LETTER THAT WORKED ON HOUSE KNEE-GROS AND KNEE-GRESSES.

What is NOT fake is that the white fiend turned these tap-dancing, yessum massa, idiots into the DESCRIPTION within the WILLIE LYNCH LETTER.

What is NOT fake is that this mindset within WILLIE LYNCH is still pervasive in the colored boy scum all over this site.

What is NOT fake is the demon whites DID BEHAVE in the way described within the WILLIE LYNCH letter.

What is NOT fake is the colored boy house-KNEE-GRO worship of the white gals and boys as displayed by the watcha's all over this site who burst in and are NOT FAKING this step n' fetch it, routine they are performing.

What is NOT fake is that the colored scum faction is the ENEMY TO POWERFUL BLACKS and do aid in keeping white dominion thriving.

What is NOT fake is that colored knee-gros are the spooks, rastus, psychoes their white trainer named them and what is NOT fake is that they are TOO STUPID TOO SEE they are EXHIBIT A of all that I wrote about their sorry asses.

What is NOT fake is the blood of the many lynched, tortured, violated, enslaved, segregated, discriminated against BLACKS who these 'yessum white massa yaws right we coloreds be bad' psychoes are trampling by their subservient disposition.

http://crimemagazine.com/lynching.htm

Finally, what is NOT fake is that their very presence and disposition so displayed made my disposition WINNER AND VICTORY FROM THE GET-GO AND THOSE LOW IQ, TWISTED SPAWNS OF SATAN ARE TOO BLIND, DEAF, AND DUMB TO SEE IT.

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Anyhoo, Negrospiritual good to correspond with you again. Happy Kwanzaa, Merry Christmas to all the righteous, dynamite Blacks speaking the EXACT SAME TRUTH. I geniunely appreciate such power forces as yourself, MBM, KNOWLEDGESEEKER, GINAMARNIE, LAWOFMAAT, HUEY, AFROMAN, JAMES CHESTER, SUNNUBIAN, YSYSS, KEVIN THE GREAT, and the other few intelligent blacks whose names I hate I can't recall at this writing. God bless ya all, keep slamming down truth for as I've shown you, TRUTH HAS THE POWER TO SIZZLE THE ENEMY WITHIN AND WITHOUT. Wink

[This message was edited by Prophetessofrage on December 23, 2003 at 12:16 PM.]
 
 
 
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December 23, 2003 4:22 PM

Please state segments of my reply which appear to be defending the linguistic validity of the willie lynch letter?

It was this statement:

"I doubt that most americans at that time spoke and wrote in the same manner as Adams,Johnson, and Dafoe. Their styles seem particularly British/New England influenced. I would assume that a larger percentage of the populace was either illiterate, or merely functionally literate and may have spoken in a less formal manner. Still, it can be noted that "educated slaves" such as Phyllis Wheatly and Frederick Douglass, did write and speak in a much more artistic and formal way."

To which I replied:

None of which would make their language look anything like ours. Our current dialect of English is not a "dumbed-down" version of that spoken 300 years ago, and any linguist would have a lard time accepting what is written in that letter as anything but a forgery.

After Melesi made the argument that the language of the letter was wrong for the time, you offered that it was possible that much of the populace was semi-literate in what appeared to be an explanation for the incongruence. My reply was to tell you that the language of today is not the equivalent of the semi-literate or informal speech of 300 years ago.

All oppressed cultures have literature which is historical, or political propaganda, or fiction based on actual events. Who gave the edict that materials meant to spur thought, conversation, and interest in the effects of slavery must be reflective of historical events only? A large body of fiction, some award winning, surrounds the jewish holocaust. It serves to keep people aware of the horrors. It would be obsurd to tell readers that they must only read historical accounts of the atrocities committed against jews. It is obsurd to imply the same about literature concerning atrocities committed against africans.


Are you implying that the stories of the holocaust are fiction? Because that's the comparison you are making. Fictionalized accounts based on history are one thing, but the Letter is trying to pass as fact. The only reason it was ever circulated was to convince people that it really happened. Fiction like "The Color Purple" and "Gone with the Wind" are not real history and they don't pretend to be. The same cannot be said of the Lynch Letter, and that's the problem. If it were just an exerpt from a novel someone was writing, we wouldn't be having this conversation, but as long as people are passing it off as fact, somebody is going to challenge it. If you don't understand my reasoning for doing so, I'd suggest you reread my earlier posts.
 
 
 
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December 23, 2003 5:40 PM

Hi again, negrospiritual, I had no idea the depth of 'dumbness' (from what I'm reading an apparent bottomless pit of stupidity) that is about the colored chillum of the white race so I am posting additional links to show the cruelty exacted is the same and worse than what WILLIE LYNCH accurate GUIDE portrayed.

In other words, whoever wrote WILLIE LYNCH wrote the MILD VERSION OF THE TRUTH as the METHODS DESCRIBED AND THEN SOME, WERE DONE TO BLACKS IN THE ENSLAVEMENT.
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PUNISHMENT

Jessica Valdes

Pain and fear, that is what white slave owners instilled into the minds of their slaves. Disobey and you will be punished, and you will be severely punished, maybe death. In the ante-bellum South, most slave owners were ruthless and selfish. If a slave were to miss his or her appointed workload, they would face a whipping, or another similar punishment. In the slave owner's mind a slave was nothing more that an animal the can walk upright, and talk, something not deserving of human kindness. Instead they were doomed to live life like animals. Work or punishment where the only choices they knew. Life for the salves consisted of nothing but work, pain and fear.

The reasons for being punished were many, "A mere look, or motion, -- a mistake, accident, or want of power, -- are all matters for which a slave must be whipped at any time.

Does a slave look dissatisfied? It is said, he has the devil in him, and it must be whipped out.
Does he speak loudly when spoken to by his master? Then he is getting high-minded, and should be taken a buttonhole lower.
Does he forget to pull off his hat at the approach of a white person? That he is wanting reverences, and should be whipped for it.
Does he ever venture to vindicate his conduct, when censured for it? Then he is guilty of imprudence, --one of the greatest crimes of which a slave can be guilty
Does he ever venture to suggest a different mode of doing things from that pointed out by his master? He is indeed presumptuous, and getting above himself..." (Douglass)
The reasons for punishment were many by the forms of punishment, which the masters used, were far more numbered and creative than the causes for punishment. William Wells Brown remembers a punishment that his master used to call " Virginia Play". This consisted of tying up the slave in the smokehouse, and whipping them. After that was done he would cause a fire to be made of tobacco stems, and smoke them. Other punishments consisted of fasting their already malnutritioned slaves for excessive amounts of time. Making them work continuously for days without food or rest. Another form of torture used was to strip the slave naked hang them and have each male member of the family whip the slave fifty times. As if this sort of humiliation and excruciating pain wasn't enough, the punishments became worse.

Another reason for punishment, if not the worst, is attempting to run away.

John Brown explains how he had been punished

" Stevens fixed bells and horns on my head. This is not by any means an uncommon punishment. A circle of iron, having a hinge behind, with a staple and a padlock before, which hang under the chin, is fastened around the neck. Another circle of iron fits quite close round the crown of the head. The two are held together in this position by three rods of iron, which are fixed in each circle. These rod, or horns, stick out three feet above the head, and have a bell attached to each. The bell and horns do not weigh less that twelve to fourteen pounds. When Stevens had fixed this ornament on my head, he turned me loose, and told me I might run off now if I liked". Brown goes on to explain how he wore the bell and horns day and night for three months. The weight of the mask made it almost impossible and very painful to stoop and work. The horns prevented him from stretching himself, or even curl himself up, which obligated him to sleep crouching. (Brown)

Another example of the severity of punishments was Moses Roper's experiences after his many attempts of running away. Among the instruments used to torture he describes one...

" This is a machine used for packing and pressing cotton. By it he hung me up by the hands, a horse, and at times, a man moving round the screw and carrying it up and down, and pressing the block into a box into which cotton is put. At this time he hung me up for a quarter of an hour. I was carried up ten feet from the ground..." (Roper)

As if this was not enough Moses tried to escape again and the punishment that followed was far worse and left more mark in which to be remembered.

"... When he came back, the first thing he did was pour tar upon my head, the rubbed it all over my face, took a torch with pitch on, and set it on fire: he put it out before it did me very great injury, but the pain which I endured was the most excruciating, nearly all my hair been burnt off." (Roper)

All the pain caused by the slave owners still was not enough. The more the masters would punish the slaves the more willing they were to endure more just for a chance to escape. According to the slave owners, the slaves were the ignorant ones, but in reality the slave owners were the ignorant ones because they could have had better working slaves and actually ended up being less of an expense, if they would have keep somewhat happy and healthy slave.

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http://cghs.dade.k12.fl.us/slavery/antebellum_slavery/punishment.htm




http://www.iath.virginia.edu/vcdh/jamestown/laws1.html#2

http://www.iath.virginia.edu/vcdh/jamestown/laws1.html#3

http://www.iath.virginia.edu/vcdh/jamestown/laws1.html#4

http://www.iath.virginia.edu/vcdh/jamestown/laws1.html#16

http://www.iath.virginia.edu/vcdh/jamestown/laws1.html#38

http://www.maxwell.syr.edu/plegal/scales/dred.html
 
 
 
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December 23, 2003 10:09 PM

Let me ask you something, rage. If a white man drove into an urban neighborhood that was known for crime and later invented a story about being carjacked when nothing really happened, is he lying? If the neighborhood is already known to have a high crime rate, is the story necessary to raise awareness? Does the fact of real carjackings make it acceptable for anyone who feels threatened to lie for dramatic effect? Is he entitled to this lie, or is he just an overzealous fool?

I appreciate that the author of the Letter is trying to unite the descendants of slaves, and that's great, but he could at least have gone to the library and given us something legitimate. We deserve that much. Making something like that up is the definition of laziness when there is so much real information already out there. I guess he (or she) just wanted something inflammatory without stopping to read about it, so in a way it's fitting that so many of you accept it as fact without stopping to think about it. At any rate, what you put in your head is your business. Knock yourself out.
 
 
 
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December 24, 2003 3:24 PM

profitlessrage,

You are as usual missing the point. You presented the letter as true. It is not. Like so many others of your offerings, it is a hoax, and an unnecessary one at that.

Therefore your defense, that it doesn't matter, since the writer was presenting a "mild version of the truth" is hogwash. It is a lie, and now that you have been cought dealing in lies again, you are backtracking and backpedaling, hoping that no one will remember that, once again, you are foisting on everybody else a lie.

Now, don't twist my words again and try to make me out to be defending white crimes in slavery. I am not and never will. I had a great uncle who was lynched in the South. I am not likely to forget that nor to defend what led to his death.

But I will not speak against racism by using lies, no matter how often you do and yet defend your wrong actions every time you do.

The truth is enough. Let's confine ourselves to that.
 
 
 
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December 24, 2003 7:37 PM

I will not engage in inane banter about the vernacular of the willie lynch letter posted by ProphetessofRage. She did not write the letter. The behavior described within it did exist. The willie lynch letter is in no way harmful to black people, just as the large body of fictional works including plays, films, books, music and art exhibits loosely based on the holocaust is in no way harmful to jews. If One asserts that the Willie Lynch letter is harmful to blacks then one must prove that the daily deluge of holocaust or concentration camp related fictional accounts are in some way harmful to jews.
 
 
 
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December 24, 2003 11:22 PM

From Dec 21

quote:

What you fail to see is that the valid accusations of oppression and mental subjugation are only trivialized when they are represented by an outright lie. Promoting the Letter as the fountainhead of black self-hate won't simply make people aware of those issues, it will cause people not take it or us seriously. If the best we can come up with is an event that never happened, then what are we complaining about? That is an insult to our ancestors whose struggles were real and documented, and a slap in the face to those of us who are genuinely interested in them. If we want to promote awareness of systems like those in the Letter, we're just going to have to do our homework and find real examples of it at work. No false document will ever be more compelling or more irrefutable than the truth.


And for the last time, fictional accounts of the Holocaust cannot be compared to the Lynch Letter because the Lynch letter is not presented as fiction, it's presented as history, which makes it a fake. I don't have the energy to explain the difference to you, so you might want to ask somebody.
 
 
 
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December 26, 2003 9:08 AM

sunnubian: Thank you for staying on the J. O. B.!!!!!

What do we choose to "argue" about.

Was Willie Lynch real?

Was his highly quoted "letter" real? If it was, was it a letter or a speech?

Stangely, we all seem to agree that what is reputed to have been said is real. It is important to know the fiction, or reality, of the actual document. It is far more important to know the fiction or reality of the content of the document.

Could it be that "lynching" as a name for the act of killings African Americans, derives from the content, the philosophy, of the document.

The argument over authenticity seems like academic minutia in the larger context of things important to African America.

PEACE

Jim Chester

You are who you say you are. Your children are who you say you are.
 
 
 
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December 26, 2003 5:50 PM

I don't think it matters whether the letter is real or not, like you said, what matters is that what the letter proclaims was and is real.

However, I must add that I am still searching for where I first read this "Lynch" speech, because what I recall was reading something that was not written in modern language and that it was a speech, not ever a letter.
 
 
 
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December 28, 2003 1:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by djonmaila:
Let me ask you something, rage. If a white man drove into an urban neighborhood that was known for crime and later invented a story about being carjacked when nothing really happened, is he lying? If the neighborhood is already known to have a high crime rate, is the story necessary to raise awareness? Does the fact of real carjackings make it acceptable for anyone who feels threatened to lie for dramatic effect? Is he entitled to this lie, or is he just an overzealous fool?

I appreciate that the author of the Letter is trying to unite the descendants of slaves, and that's great, but he could at least have gone to the library and given us something legitimate. We deserve that much. Making something like that up is the definition of laziness when there is so much real information already out there. I guess he (or she) just wanted something inflammatory without stopping to read about it, so in a way it's fitting that so many of you accept it as fact without stopping to think about it. At any rate, what you put in your head is your business. Knock yourself out.

Whew!!

MANIA your commentary towards this issue is in a word, ludicrous. You spout that you are enraged at WILLIE LYNCH writing then you must be MANIC concerning all the WHITE LIES in all the institutions of America. Indeed, you must be on some deep psychotic medication over the many, many, many, ad infinitium many lies WHITES told in their history books concerning slavery. For instance, the LIE that black women RAPE VICTIMS were 'in love' with their white devil enslaver. The LIE that Sally Hemmings loved her rapist Thomas Jefferson. The lie that professes George Washington, Patrick Henry, and a host of other of your flounding fathers were noble Christians, when in reality they were rapists, adulterers, enslaving satanists.

Oh yeah Mania, you must be overwrought at the WHITE LIES that denied BLACK MEN were they who fought in the Revolutionary war, of which if they had not, America would not be a nation. It must incense you that in this 21st century millinieum ending year of 2003, that those white lies are still bred in every white school, and church. It must just make your blood boil to hear white preachers steal black's history so much so that they would lie about the BLACK PERSONAGE of JESUS via turning him white. Lie about the Black history of Egypt, Babylon, Sumeria, Israeli, via turning them leprous white. It must just make you downright sick that this Black history was/is left out of the books.

Of a surety, your blood must curdle and you be sedated over the WHITE LIES that said, blacks didn't fight in the Civil War or any war. And to think about the white lie that stole the legacy of BLACKS via denying that it was BLACK MEN AND WOMEN who were the majority of people in the famous SEMINOLE WARS. Yes, so much so, that General Jesup called the Seminole Wars, 'Negro Wars.' White deceivers LIES left that truth out of their history books and surely that must just wrench your insides out, eh?

Well, the fact is, I could go on and on, with regard to how you must be a MANIAC MANIA, over the on-going Lies and deceits that whites bred one generation after another to adhere to but having with your own words displayed your mania over the written lies on enslavement I'll not stir up the rage in you mania.

Instead, mania I will turn my attention to your professed sick state of mind that I suppose is a result of your being waaaaay stressed out over the MULTITUDE OF WHITE LIES ON ENSLAVEMENT.

It seems you've flipped out to the point that what you are saying is, you despise styles of writings even if what is said is the TRUTH such as the remarkable Willie Lynch writings.

First I shall teach you that there are all types of trutful writings on the enslavement. There is poetry, dramitists, prose, biographical, autobiographical, composition, research, etc., etc., and all of them have one common theme, TRUTH.

You see the horror of enslavement was so that it can, must, should, and is written about in a variety of styles and all of it is acceptable and good. Yet, as said, the LIES OF WHITES on enslavement have obviously made you so ill that you altogether failed to mention that volumious amount of wicked lies and instead you opted to be offended at the 'style' of which Willie Lynch is written. By the way, are you offended at the TRUTH WITHIN the Willie Lynch or just the style? By the way, no record has indisuputably proven Willie Lynch a hoax because the fact is, it is the TRUTH. It is no more a 'hoax' than any style of truthful writings on the demonic savagery of whites.

In fact, Willie Lynch should be used by Blacks as a guilde to break the Willie Lynch, IN-HOUSE RACISM that whites bred into blacks. And, that segments of coloreds still act on to this very day. Willie Lynch is the perfect writing to use to heal that which was bruised by whites. To unite that which was divided by whites. To destroy that which was unleashed by whites and that of course is the TRUTH within the WILLIE LYNCH LETTER.

Having so answered your disturbed state of mine Mania, I'm enclosing a series of ENSLAVEMENT POETRY to heal you Mania, as this style of writing is as TRUTHFUL and USEFUL in content as WILLIE LYNCH.

Now remember Mania, don't continue to 'strain at a gnat and swallow a camel' rather, Enjoy the TRUTH and be HEALED!
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The Black Madonna.
Essence, April, 2001, by Leonard A. Jr. Slade

(for Elizabeth Langford Slade)


Picking cotton on
a cold day blisters
decorated her black fingers
in the fields

She crawled on her knees
until the sun bowed
to her. Eight children
planted beneath the stars
The earth felt good to her.

You can see how now
a parched face and folded hands
she kneels in a different place
drinking blood and eating bread
at the altar

Comforted white gloves feel good to
her
waving to touch the sky
hymns fill the air
They feel good to her
they feel good to her


"Mother Africa" and "The Black Madonna" reprinted from the book Elisabeth and Other Poems, published by The McGraw-Hill Companies.

COPYRIGHT 2001 Essence Communications, Inc.
COPYRIGHT 2001 Gale Group ==========================================


An Anti-Slavery Ballad by Robert Burns


'The Slave's Lament"”' (1792)

It was in sweet Senegal that my foes did me enthrall
For the lands of Virginia-ginia O;
Torn from that lovely shore, and must never see it more,
And alas! I am weary, weary O!
Torn from &c.

All on that charming coast is no bitter snow and frost,
Like the lands of Virginia-ginia O;
There streams for ever flow, and there flowers for ever blow,
And alas! I am weary, weary O!
There streams &c.

The burden I must bear, while the cruel scourge I fear,
In the lands of Virginia-ginia O;
And I think on friends most dear with the bitter, bitter tear,
And Alas! I am weary, weary O!
And I think &c.

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William Cowper

'The Negro's Complaint' (1788)

To the tune of 'Hosier's Ghost' or 'As near Porto Bello lying'.

FORCED from home and all its pleasures
Afric's coast I left forlorn,
To increase a stranger's treasures
O'er the raging billows borne.
Men from England bought and sold me,
Paid my price in paltry gold;
But, though slave they have enrolled me,
Minds are never to be sold.

Still in thought as free as ever,
What are England's rights, I ask,
Me from my delights to sever,
Me to torture, me to task ?
Fleecy locks and black complexion
Cannot forfeit nature's claim;
Skins may differ, but affection
Dwells in white and black the same.

Why did all-creating nature
Make the plant for which we toil?
Sighs must fan it, tears must water,
Sweat of ours must dress the soil.
Think, ye masters iron-hearted,
Lolling at your jovial boards,
Think how many backs have smarted
For the sweets your cane affords.

Is there, as ye sometimes tell us,
Is there One who reigns on high?
Has He bid you buy and sell us,
Speaking from his throne, the sky?
Ask him, if your knotted scourges,
Matches, blood-extorting screws,
Are the means that duty urges
Agents of his will to use?

Hark! He answers!--Wild tornadoes
Strewing yonder sea with wrecks,
Wasting towns, plantations, meadows,
Are the voice with which he speaks.
He, foreseeing what vexations
Afric's sons should undergo,
Fixed their tyrants' habitations
Where his whirlwinds answer--"No."

By our blood in Afric wasted
Ere our necks received the chain;
By the miseries that we tasted,
Crossing in your barks the main;
By our sufferings, since ye brought us
To the man-degrading mart,
All sustained by patience, taught us
Only by a broken heart;

Deem our nation brutes no longer,
Till some reason ye shall find
Worthier of regard and stronger
Than the colour of our kind.
Slaves of gold, whose sordid dealings
Tarnish all your boasted powers,
Prove that you have human feelings,
Ere you proudly question ours!

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William Cowper

'The Morning Dream' (1788)
To the tune of 'Tweedside'

'Twas in the glad season of Spring,
Asleep at the dawn of the day
I dream'd what I cannot but sing,
So pleasant it seem'd as I lay.
I dream'd that on Ocean afloat
Far hence to the westward I sail'd,
While the billows high-lifted the boat,
And the fresh-blowing breeze never fail'd.


In the steerage a woman I saw,
(Such at least was the form that she wore)
Whose beauty impress'd me with awe
Ne'er taught me by woman before.
She sat, and a shield at her side
Shed light like a sun on the waves,
And smiling divinely, she cried,
I go to make Freemen of Slaves"”


Then raising her voice to a strain
The sweetest that ear ever heard,
She sung of the Slave's broken chain
Wherever her glory appear'd.
Some clouds which had over us hung
Fled chased by her melody clear,
And methought while she Liberty sung
'Twas Liberty only to hear.


Thus swiftly dividing the flood
To a slave-cultur'd island we came,
Where a daemon, her enemy, stood,
Oppression his terrible name.
In his hand, as the sign of his sway,
A scourge hung with lashes he bore,
And stood looking out for his prey,
From Africa's sorrowful shore.


But soon as approaching the land
That goddess-like Woman he view'd,
The scourge he let fall from his hand
With blood of his subjects imbrued;
I saw him both sicken and die,
And the moment the monster expired
Heard shouts that ascended the sky
From thousands with rapture inspired.


Awaking, how could I but muse
On what such a Dream might betide?
But soon my ear caught the glad news
Which serv'd my weak thought for a guide"”
That Britannia, renown'd o'er the waves
For the hatred she ever has shown
To the black-sceptred rulers of Slaves"”
Resolves to have none of her own.
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William Cowper

'Sweet Meat has Sour Sauce: or, the Slave Trader in the Dumps' (1788)
A trader I am to the African shore,
But since that my trading is like to be o'er,
I'll sing you a song that you ne'er heard before,
Which nobody can deny, deny,
Which nobody can deny.
When I first heard the news it gave me a shock,
Much like what they call an electrical knock,
And now I am going to sell off my stock,
Which nobody, &c.

Tis a curious assortment of dainty regales,
To tickle the Negroes with when the ship sails,
Fine chains for the neck, and a cat with nine tails,
Which nobody, &c.

Here's supple-jack plenty and store of rat-tan,
That will wind itself round the sides of a man,
As close as a hoop round a bucket or can,
Which nobody, &c.

Here's padlocks and bolts, and screws for the thumbs,
That squeeze them so lovingly till the blood comes,
They sweeten the temper like comfits or plums,
Which nobody, &c.

When a Negro his head from his victuals withdraws,
And clenches his teeth and thrusts out his paws,
Here's a notable engine to open his jaws,
Which nobody, &c.

Thus going to market, we kindly prepare
A pretty black cargo of African ware,
For what they must meet with when they get there,
Which nobody, &c.

'Twould do your heart good to see 'em below,
Lie flat on their backs all the way as we go,
Like sprats on a gridiron, scores in a row,
Which nobody, &c.

But ah! if in vain I have studied an art
So gainful to me, all boasting apart,
I think it will break my compassionate heart,
Which nobody, &c.

For oh! how it enters my soul like an awl!
This pity, which some people self-pity call,
Is sure the most heart-piercing pity of all,
Which nobody, &c.

So this is my song, as I told you before;
Come, buy off my stock, for I must no more
Carry Caesars and Pompeys to Sugar-cane shore,
Which nobody can deny, deny,
Which nobody can deny.

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http://www.brycchancarey.com/slavery/burnspoem.htm

[This message was edited by Prophetessofrage on December 28, 2003 at 10:25 AM.]
 
 
 
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December 29, 2003 11:03 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Prophetessofrage:
[QUOTE]


Do you know the words to 'Dixie"?
 
 
 
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December 30, 2003 5:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by EgbertSouse:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Prophetessofrage:
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Do you know the words to 'Dixie"?


Well, well, well if it isn't the parasite, Ignant Louse;

"Do I Know the words to Dixie?"

Yeah, they go like this the truth hurt ya so much that you slithered out from under that rock you infest to prove your ignorance by coming up with this lame, boring reply.

It's also goes like this, that demonic confederate flag will come down off of federal buildings so the black tax dollar portion no longer has to pay for it to fly there.

Finally, the words go, when they take that damnable enemy flag down, as you slither back under that rock take that flag pole and stick it up your.....uh, rock....The End!
 
 
 
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December 30, 2003 6:30 PM

profit--

Nasty little boil you have for a brain, that.

Now, why do you suppose that you were asked if you knew the words to "Dixie"? But you wouldn't ask yourself that. Instead you will have a fit.

Not very convincing, especially when you completely ignore the imporant point--that you have tried to redundantly bolster a well-known point with a lie.

We don't need the speech or letter. Moreover we shouldn't use the Lynch speech or letter because it is a lie. Using lies to make our point only weakens it. The point of this thread is simply, "Stick to the truth. It's far stronger than any lie can be."

It doesn't matter if the content of the letter is true. If it's the content we're concerned about, then speak of that content without relying on a false letter. We have enough information on the treatment of slaves to make our point about slavery without dragging in something that everybody knows is wrong.

The point is not an informational one. It's a moral one, and therefore just as important. In this case, it's more important. Stay on the side of the morally right and speak the truth, and then we'll be listened to.

But if we use a lie, we deserve to be ignored.
 
 
 
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December 31, 2003 1:36 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Melesi:
profit--

Nasty little boil you have for a brain, that.

Now, why do you suppose that you were asked if you knew the words to "Dixie"? But you wouldn't ask yourself that. Instead you will have a fit.

Not very convincing, especially when you completely ignore the imporant point--that you have tried to redundantly bolster a well-known point with a lie.

We don't need the speech or letter. Moreover we shouldn't use the Lynch speech or letter because it is a lie. Using lies to make our point only weakens it. The point of this thread is simply, "Stick to the truth. It's far stronger than any lie can be."

It doesn't matter if the content of the letter is true. If it's the content we're concerned about, then speak of that content without relying on a false letter. We have enough information on the treatment of slaves to make our point about slavery without dragging in something that everybody knows is wrong.

The point is not an informational one. It's a moral one, and therefore just as important. In this case, it's more important. Stay on the side of the morally right and speak the truth, and then we'll be listened to.

But if we use a lie, we deserve to be ignored.


What is your RACE and GENDER?

It's obvious that you're obsessed with speaking to me even though I've repeatedly told your not bright by any stretch of the imagination carcass that I don't want to talk to such a one as you.

Still, you're a sick puppy ever sniffing at my backside and that's well, for one thing, darn funny, and for another, proof of you and your fellow slime's insanity, not that it hasn't been obvious from day one.

None the less, power to Willie Lynch truth! Everybody say it, power to Willie Lynch truth! Willie Lynch be the guide to break all IN-HOUSE RACISM as TRUTHFULLY described in the WILLIE LYNCH LETTER OF TRUTH!

Oh, one more thing, What is your RACE and GENDER?

Hey, it's the last day of the year 2003 and I know you'll be thrilled and by reason of your obsession over me, probably sickily heated up, you pervert because I had mercy on a twit like you and graced you with my response. Cherish it, I know you will, and also get some mental help, you need it.

P.S. And don't email another 10,000 comments to MBM and YSSYS pointing out why I should be banned as if your stupid ass wouldn't talk to me you wouldn't have to boo-hoo to them in the first place. Now Get Lost!
 
 
 
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December 31, 2003 2:50 PM

You know the willie lynch letter is a lie, yet you determine to support it?

Sigh. You really are a deliberate little liar then. Well, on your own head be it.

No, I didn't send emails to MBM and Yssys asking to have you banned. Since it seemed to me that Yssys was irritated at our exchange--even though she didn't say so--I merely asked her once (not twice, certainly not "10,000" times) who was at fault between you and me. IF she had said that I was, then I would have wanted her to explain her reasoning. I couldn't see why she would, if she did, see me as the worse of us two, since you are the liar. That's all. I never asked anyone to have you banned.

But I suppose that it pleases your sense of self-important paranoia (which has in it the letters NOI, you'll notice) to believe that I did. Well, fantasize on, sister.
 
 
 
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December 31, 2003 3:25 PM

Gosh, you're such a whiny, pathetic, little, snot-nosed, sniveling, cry-baby! I didn't do dis, I didn't do dat....yeah,yeah,yeah, whose going to believe an obsessed LIAR like you whose such a COWARD you won't give your RACE & GENDER.

Now quit all your boo-hooing, be honored that I for LAUGHS mind you, responded to a twit like you, cherish the moment for they will be few and quit lying about the TRUTHFUL WILLIE LYNCH LETTER.

Why, my great-grandpappy was in the room when the demon wrote it!

Now since I have thrilled you by speaking at your insanity, have the decency to GET LOST, like I told ya, you schizoid, psycho, you!

Go away and try to let such reason as, 'if I won't answer her question, why should she answer mine?' enter that chaotic filled head of yours.' Oh, and that goes for the other post as well, for quite frankly, you bore me!

I know, go away, DON'T COME BACK, and instead spend time binding the Wille Lynch mentality you possess that made you the nutcase you are displaying your pathetic self to be.

ME NO TALK AT YOU NO MORE!
 
 
 
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December 31, 2003 5:07 PM

You won't talk to me? And this is supposed to, what, bother me?

Your great grandpappy was in the room when he wrote the letter? And I suppose that you are a direct descendent of an Indian princess from a horse culture, too? Or that Shaka is your spiritual advisor, being your great-great grandfather?

Let's see what math can do for us, here:

Let's say that you are fifty years old. That would make your birth about 1953. That would put your father born around 1925. Therefore his father, your grandfather, would have been born about 1900 or even as far back as 1890. Therefore his father, your great-grandfather, would have been born, oh, say 1865 or 1870.

Now, how could someone born in 1870 be in the room when Willie Lynch wrote his alleged letter in 1712?

Right, your great grandfather was there when he wrote it. Then you have the letter in your possession? It's in your family's possession? Somehow, I don't think so.

You know, not everybody can hate the truth as much as you do. Well done, you're in a class by yourself. It has padded walls and plenty of rags to wipe up the drool.

So you continue to say that the letter is true. As I said, enjoy your fantasies.

Oh, and babbling isn't exactly "talking." Try using words next time.
 
 
 
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December 31, 2003 7:12 PM

Happy New Year everybody. Just got back to see this little nugget:


Whew!!

MANIA your commentary towards this issue is in a word, ludicrous. You spout that you are enraged at WILLIE LYNCH writing then you must be MANIC concerning all the WHITE LIES in all the institutions of America. Indeed, you must be on some deep psychotic medication over the many, many, many, ad infinitium many lies WHITES told in their history books concerning slavery. For instance, the LIE that black women RAPE VICTIMS were 'in love' with their white devil enslaver. The LIE that Sally Hemmings loved her rapist Thomas Jefferson. The lie that professes George Washington, Patrick Henry, and a host of other of your flounding fathers were noble Christians, when in reality they were rapists, adulterers, enslaving satanists.

We are off to a bad start. First of all, who is Mania? I haven't seen anybody on this board suggest that black women were in love with the white men who fathered their children. Have you? And I find it rather convenient that you choose to defend your position on the Letter by falling on information that we all know is true and which no one has disputed. Unfortunate, though, that you still can't come to terms with the fact of the forgery and resort instead to inventing an argument no one has made so it looks as though you were right all along. Very sloppy.

Oh yeah Mania, you must be overwrought at the WHITE LIES that denied BLACK MEN were they who fought in the Revolutionary war, of which if they had not, America would not be a nation. It must incense you that in this 21st century millinieum ending year of 2003, that those white lies are still bred in every white school, and church. It must just make your blood boil to hear white preachers steal black's history so much so that they would lie about the BLACK PERSONAGE of JESUS via turning him white. Lie about the Black history of Egypt, Babylon, Sumeria, Israeli, via turning them leprous white. It must just make you downright sick that this Black history was/is left out of the books.

Of a surety, your blood must curdle and you be sedated over the WHITE LIES that said, blacks didn't fight in the Civil War or any war. And to think about the white lie that stole the legacy of BLACKS via denying that it was BLACK MEN AND WOMEN who were the majority of people in the famous SEMINOLE WARS. Yes, so much so, that General Jesup called the Seminole Wars, 'Negro Wars.' White deceivers LIES left that truth out of their history books and surely that must just wrench your insides out, eh?

More of the same. You are making assumptions here that you can't even begin to justify, which leads me to believe that either you are categorically unable to hold a logical discussion, or you think you are psychic. Either way, this isn't looking good.

Instead, mania I will turn my attention to your professed sick state of mind that I suppose is a result of your being waaaaay stressed out over the MULTITUDE OF WHITE LIES ON ENSLAVEMENT.

At what point did I profess that my state of mind was sick? And why if you know me better than I do must you suddenly resort to supposition? Is there a crack in your crystal ball?

It seems you've flipped out to the point that what you are saying is, you despise styles of writings even if what is said is the TRUTH such as the remarkable Willie Lynch writings.

If you reread my posts carefully, you'll see that what I "despise" is the forgery when there is so much real history without it. I didn't say anything about disliking any writing style. If you doubt me, prove it.

First I shall teach you that there are all types of trutful writings on the enslavement. There is poetry, dramitists, prose, biographical, autobiographical, composition, research, etc., etc., and all of them have one common theme, TRUTH.

Yes, "teacher", but the Lynch Letter is actually more an example of "fiction". It may be based on systems we know exist and existed, but the speech never happened, the transcript is fake, the document is non-existant. Also, you may want to study up, kiddo. "Dramatists" is not a form of writing. It is, in this case, woefully bad grammar. And composition, prose, and poetry by definition are not required to be factual or historical in nature, which leaves us with biographies and autobiographies, of which the Letter is neither. Pretty good though. If I were the teacher, that would have been a C, C- effort on your part, except for the assertion that each genre relies on the TRUTH, which is so easily disproved even you could do it. So maybe a D+.

You see the horror of enslavement was so that it can, must, should, and is written about in a variety of styles and all of it is acceptable and good. Yet, as said, the LIES OF WHITES on enslavement have obviously made you so ill that you altogether failed to mention that volumious amount of wicked lies and instead you opted to be offended at the 'style' of which Willie Lynch is written.

I believe Melesi once said something about you beating your head against a dead horse. Here you go again, rage. For clarity:

1. You do not know that I am made sick by anything. For the record, I have an infallibly strong stomach and can tolerate anything but horseradish.

2. I have never stated that I think whites were wonderful during slavery, and more importantly you don't know what I've said because you clearly aren't reading my posts. Your tireless argument that I am believing some set of lies is a convenient and necessary tool in your attempt to look sensible. You cannot prove any of it and would be run into the ground if you tried.

3. Despite your attempt to shift the argument from "the Lynch Letter is real" to "slavery really did happen and it wasn't pretty", you don't have a foot to stand on. In the first case, you clearly can't prove your position, thus the shift to the second case. In the second case, no one has denied anything about rape, subjugation, or participation in the Civil War of blacks, so you are debating no one and you still aren't winning. Quite an accomplishment.

4. Didn't you already decide earlier that you knew I was offended by the style? Why are you backing off now?


By the way, are you offended at the TRUTH WITHIN the Willie Lynch or just the style? By the way, no record has indisuputably proven Willie Lynch a hoax because the fact is, it is the TRUTH. It is no more a 'hoax' than any style of truthful writings on the demonic savagery of whites.

Somehow it does not strike me as odd that there is no 300 year old document declaring the 20 year old Lynch Letter to be a fake. The lack of such documentation leave us with the task of "proving a negative", substantially less intelligent than proving a positive, in other words, finding the Letter, dating it, and thereby proving that it is real and that the speech happened and that Lynch actually existed. In other words, the onus of proof is on you, kid, not me. No needs to prove it's fake if no one can find it because if it can't be found, no one can say it's real. How far are you with that?

Now remember Mania, don't continue to 'strain at a gnat and swallow a camel' rather, Enjoy the TRUTH and be HEALED!

The phrase "Heal Thyself" comes to mind.
 
 
 
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December 31, 2003 7:18 PM

"Why, my great-grandpappy was in the room when the demon wrote it!"

That's hilarious. but it sums up your argument in a nutshell. When in doubt, make it up. thumbsup
 
 
 
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January 1, 2004 3:05 PM

Okay, it's a new year and i'm going to put a stop to this madness before it gets anymore out of hand.

Djon or mania or whaterver your name is, I scrolled past much of what you said, as it isn't worth it. Let me say this, I don't seek to engage in talk to people who belong in a rubber room and if I did I would belong in a rubber room. That's why I'm going to put a stop to your comments before you show yourself as sick as Melesi.

First of all, I have never nor will ever engage in a debate with that pathetic, sick being. I don't take it serious, and my answers to her babbling reflect that. At least it does to sane, rational people with common sense. If you take her serious then you go somewhere and chat all day with her mad ramblings. Why come under my post? Trust me, I'll never come under one of yours.

Now, I could hardly take your argument as anything but as I said, 'ludicrous.' It makes no sense so yeah, if you were sincere then you're right we got off to a bad start and I would ask you to no longer correspond with me because no one could make an argument against WILLE LYNCH that is sound.

I, like NEGROSPIRITUAL, AND SUN-NUBIAN have already shown that the CONTENT is the TRUTH. End of story.

You've made the ludicrous argument that Blacks shouldn't use Willie Lynch because it's fiction.

Well, even if you believe it is FICTION then it should STILL BE EMBRACED AND USED as FICTION impacts the world just as all types of writings impact society.

For the record, HARRIET BEECHER STOWE USED UNCLE TOM'S CABIN the greatest FICTION BOOK EVER WRITTEN and it impacted the world. The ENTIRE WORLD.

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UNCLE TOM'S CABIN:
Upon meeting Harriet Beecher Stowe for the first time, Abraham Lincoln reportedly said, "So this is the little lady who made this big war." Stowe was little"”under five feet tall"”but what she lacked in height, she made up for in influence and success. Uncle Tom's Cabin became one of the most widely read and deeply penetrating books of its time. It sold hundreds of thousands of copies and was translated into numerous languages. Many historians have credited the novel with contributing to the outbreak of the Civil War.

The daughter of an eminent New England preacher, Stowe was born into a family of eccentric, intelligent people. As a child, she learned Latin and wrote a children's geography book, both before she was ten years old. Throughout her life, she remained deeply involved in religious movements, feminist causes, and the most divisive political and moral issue of her time: the abolition of slavery.

Stowe grew up in the Northeast but lived for a time in Cincinnati, which enabled her to see both sides of the slavery debate without losing her abolitionist's perspective. Cincinnati was evenly split for and against abolition, and Stowe wrote satirical pieces on the subject for several local papers there. She often wrote pieces under pseudonyms and with contrasting styles, and one can see a similar attention to voice in Uncle Tom's Cabin, in which dialects and patterns of speech contrast among characters. Though Stowe absorbed a great deal of information about slavery during her Cincinnati years, she nonetheless conducted extensive research before writing Uncle Tom's Cabin. She wrote to Frederick Douglass and others for help in creating a realistic picture of slavery in the Deep South. Her black cook and household servants also helped by telling her stories of their slave days.

Stowe's main goal with Uncle Tom's Cabin was to convince her large Northern readership of the necessity of ending slavery. Most immediately, the novel served as a response to the passage of the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850, which made it illegal to give aid or assistance to a runaway slave. Under this legislation, Southern slaves who escaped to the North had to flee to Canada in order to find real freedom. With her book, Stowe created a sort of exposé that revealed the horrors of Southern slavery to people in the North. Her radical position on race relations, though, was informed by a deep religiosity. Stowe continually emphasizes the importance of Christian love in eradicating oppression. She also works in her feminist beliefs, showing women as equals to men in intelligence, bravery, and spiritual strength. Indeed, women dominate the book's moral code, proving vital advisors to their husbands, who often need help in seeing through convention and popular opinion.

Uncle Tom's Cabin was published in episodes in the National Era in 1851 and 1852, then published in its entirety on March 20, 1852. It sold 10,000 copies in its first week and 300,000 by the end of the year, astronomical numbers for the mid-nineteenth century. Today, analysis of both the book's conception and reception proves helpful in our understanding of the Civil War era. Within the text itself, the reader finds insights into the mind of a Christian, feminist abolitionist. For example, in the arguments Stowe uses, the reader receives a glimpse into the details of the slavery debate. Looking beyond the text to its impact on its society, the reader gains an understanding of the historical forces contributing to the outbreak of war.


http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/uncletom/context.html

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Now that TRUTH alone puts an end to your 'Blacks shouldn't use Willie Lynch' like whites did to impact the enslavement world of that day.

Next, THE WORLD AT LARGE uses FICTION, BIOGRAPHIES, AUTOBIOS, POETRY, PROSE, and every other type of writing to IMPACT SOCIETY AND THE WORLD AT LARGE.

Why you feel it's BAD FOR BLACKS ONLY shows a WILLIE LYNCH BLACK SELF-LOATHING MENTALITY WITHIN YOU.
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Movies and TV – The Medium of Society

By Pastor Rick Rogers
Key Verse: 1 John 2:15-16
Introduction: It was a challenge to name this chapter the "medium of society," as it seems so trivial. Television, and the movies and programs that are carried through it, form a philosophy, world view, standard and ethic which has a tremendous effect on society. As with music, it teaches a religion. And it is powerful! In television and movies, there is an experience attained through the senses of seeing and hearing, unlike other forms of entertainment such as reading novels or listening to music. Television can actually place you "in the realm" of the setting. Thus, it is a powerful teaching tool! As believers, we must understand the power and purpose of the modern screen, and obey biblical commands and principles concerning it's use.

I. THE HISTORY OF TELEVISION AND MOVIES
A. Silent films, 1910-1920. Mainly characterized by humor and romance. Charlie Chaplin was a favorite of this era. Charlie Chaplin was barred from the U. S. A. because of his sympathies for Communism and dislike for America.1

B. Classics, 1920-1940. Walt Disney began producing cartoon films such as "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs." Dr. Kober, quoting the Encyclopedia Britannica: "In the U. S., the first documentaries were made under the Soviet ... influence and reflected the thinking of the extreme left wing ... The public, old as well as young, wanted to see how the wealthy lived, dressed and misbehaved, and skillful directors such as Cecil B. DeMille helped educate and entire nation in the boudoirs (bedrooms), lingerie and riotous living. The worship of the stars reached delirious proportions."2

C. Westerns and Crime films, 1940-1950. Advocated violence, murder, ...

D. Sex and scandals, 1950-1960. Hollywood turned more and more to sex and scandal to lure people back to movie houses, as the popularity had decreased.

E. Shock and splatter, 1970-1990. Films about Satanism and witchcraft (the Exorcist, Poltergeist, ...) the supernatural (Star Wars), extra-terrestrials (Close Encounters of the Third Kind) blasphemous films (Jesus Christ Superstar) and hard core pornography were the prime movies for our "entertainment."

F. Science fiction and horror, 1990's - . Science fiction and horror, often with strong occult and New Age themes, are prevalent. These are often coupled with nudity and other forms of immorality.

Consider: These periods cover a general pattern not a particular rule. For example, "The Robe" was also produced in the 1950-1960 era. Nevertheless, a pattern has accompanied each period with a definite philosophy that impacted the culture. As stated at the outset, this is a powerful teaching tool! Letters E and F can be demonstrated by the increase of interest in the occult over the past two decades, and the intense perversion that has permeated our culture. Homosexuality, pedophilia, bestiality, couples living together outside of marriage, ... all reflect those axioms! The amount of violence has increased, and the brutality is unspeakable, akin to the Inquisition!

II. THE PHILOSOPHY OF TELEVISION AND MOVIES:
A. A distortion of reality. This is an inherent danger to children and teen-agers!

B. A dispensing of a sinful and worldly philosophy:

a promotion of materialism
a promotion of immorality
a promotion of violence
a promotion of profanity
a promotion of atheism and humanism
a promotion of the occult
C. A domination of personal life. Television dominates many homes, and schedules are built around programs!

D. A destroyer of time. We are called to be good stewards (1 Cor. 4:1-2) and to redeem time (Col. 4:5), not waste it. That is not to say one should NEVER watch ANYTHING on television – there are some good things, such as WVCY TV 30, Christmas specials, ...but one must be a faithful steward of time, treasures, talents, mind, ... Reading your Bible is infinitely more important, and some good studies about Theology and Christian living are needful for spiritual growth. It is also far better to read some good Christian novels (there are many fine Christian novels that teach biblical values and sound truth) and devotionals to help rather than hinder your walk with the Lord, as entertainment may.

E. A distraction from corporate worship. It is not uncommon for Christians to disregard the worship services of the church to stay home for television.

F. A disturbance of family life. As stated previously, it becomes the family worship center, it detracts from communication and developing relationships, and is all to often the center of attention at meal time rather than family devotions and discussion.

G. A developer of juvenile aggression. What younger children see on television is "real" to them. A Stanford University psychologist, Albert Brandura, lists the following immediate effects of television violence:

It reduces viewer "inhibitions against violent, aggressive behavior."

It teacher viewers "forms of aggression - that is, giving them information about how to attack someone else when the occasion arises.

The ethical ending, in which the villain gets his desserts, does not antidote the violence that occurred before. It ˜may keep viewers from reproducing villainy' right away, but it does not make them forget how to do it. The ethical ending is just a suppresser of violence, it does not erase.3
Note the following report from Reader's Digest:

TV violence produces lasting and serious harm
Those "action" cartoons on children's programs are decidedly damaging
TV erodes inhibitions
The sheer quantity of TV watching by youngsters increases hurtful behavior and poor academic performance.4
H. A disruption of the learning process. Entertainment replaces learning, as watching replaces reading and thinking.

I. A degrading of morality, as it glorifies sex, violence, ... cf. Pt. 2, above

J. A deadening of activity. People, especially teens and children, should be productive. Instead of hours of inactivity in a mentally neutral mode, people should be exercising and disciplining their bodies and minds. They should be learning and developing talents such as playing a musical instrument with which to glorify and serve the Lord.

III. A THEOLOGY FOR TELEVISION AND MOVIES
Consider: On this point, please read the following verses which match letters A – J in pt. II. Either by command, precept or principle, the Bible addresses every issue!

A. 1 Tim. 1:4; 4:7; 2 Tim. 4:4 F. Deut. 6:6-7; Eph. 6:1-4

B. Col. 2:8; James 4:4 G. Pro. 20:11; 22:6; 22:15; 29:15

C. Exo. 20:3; Isaiah 45:18; Eph. 6:4 H. John 5:39; 2 Tim. 2:15; 1 Peter 3:15

D. Eph. 5:15; Col. 3:8 I. Psalm 101:3; 141:4; 1 Thes. 4:3-4

E. Matt. 6:21, 24 J. Rom. 12:1-2; 1 Cor. 4:1-2; 6:19

Conclusion: From this very brief summary, consider the impact of television and movies have had on our culture. Has it been used for the glory of God, or for the decadence of man?

End Notes:


http://logosresourcepages.org/movies.htm

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Now, having demolished your entire argument with the weapon of TRUTH you'll notice WHITES and the SANE WORLD uses not only writings, speeches, books, but FICTIOUS FILMS AND TV to IMPACT THE WORLD.

Do you find offense in them or just BLACKS? That's a rhetorical question no need for you to reply as I'm NOT really interested at all.
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The 10 Best Films of the 90s

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Article by Mark Dujsik

This was the decade that I got into film. It was also a decade of very personal growth. I started really watching movies when I was about 12, and here I am making a list of the films that touched me or made an impact on me in some way during that time (and even some a few years before then). These are all important films; they have impacted movies that followed and have also impacted the lives of the people who have seen them. When you think about it, that is the most you can expect from a film, and all of these are prime examples of the best that filmmaking has to offer.


10. Dead Man Walking (1995)

Tim Robbin's thoughtful, intelligent, and, most importantly, objective look at capital punishment is a masterpiece of incredible emotional complexity and a perfect example of how a film can engage an audience in serious thought about a complicated political and human rights issue. Sean Penn and Susan Sarandon give two of the best performances of the decade, and their scenes together ring of truth, compassion, stubbornness, and ultimately forgiveness. At a time when films seem afraid to tackle big issues, Dead Man Walking is a powerful testament to the impact film can have on an individual's conscience.



9. Fight Club (1999)

The most recent film on this list is also the most daring. An audacious attack on materialism and capitalism, Fight Club was, and still is, misunderstood and condemned as anarchistic and fascist. However, ten years down the line, it will most likely be seen as a masterpiece and one of the most influential films from the decade. Edward Norton proves he is one of the best actors of his generation and also one of the best working in film today, and Brad Pitt once again sheds his "pretty-boy" image to turn in a haunting and intense performance as a man many will quote with gusto without realizing they have fallen into the trap.



8. The Shawshank Redemption (1994)

The single most surprising and inspirational film on this list, The Shawshank Redemption was all but ignored in theaters, but with a slew of Oscar nominations, it found life on video. It has become a phenomenon all its own and is even listed, at this time, as the second greatest film of all time on the Internet Movie Database, just behind The Godfather. The film's message of hope in the face of injustice is perfectly portrayed, and it is a film many will return to and many more will discover as time progresses.



7. Leaving Las Vegas (1995)

Leaving Las Vegas is first and foremost a love story. It is one of the most offbeat love stories on film, but it also deserves to be placed with the best. Material that is essentially melodrama is raised to grand emotional heights by two incredible performances by Nicolas Cage, as an alcoholic screenwriter, and Elisabeth Shue, as a Vegas prostitute, both of whom realize they need the other. The decision to shoot on 16mm gives the film an edgy and documentary-like feel, and the material itself is powerful and operatic.



6. Pulp Fiction (1994)

Pulp Fiction is a film that has been often-imitated and never matched. It is easily the most influential and most analyzed film of the decade. The big question is: Why? There is nothing revolutionary or profound, yet people have dissected the film to find many hidden meanings and religious undertones. Are they there? I have noticed them also, but what makes it special and unique is its brazen storytelling and darkly comic moments. It is pulp, to be sure, but it has somehow risen above that level to become greatly respected in many circles"”including mine.



5. Goodfellas (1990)

The Godfather may be the my choice as the best film ever made, but Goodfellas is the best mob film. How is this possible, you may ask? The Godfather created a glamorized and glorified Mafia, making it a modern Camelot of sorts, while Goodfellas went for stark realism. This is the mob as it must be: ruthless, unforgiving, primitive, influential, and highly organized. Full of great performances and a style that has been copied many times since, Martin Scorsese's opus has come to exemplify the modern crime epic.



4. Fargo (1996)

Since their 1984 debut Blood Simple, the Coen brothers have come to represent offbeat and cerebral American filmmaking at its best. Fargo is the Coens at their best. Based on a "true" story, this is the tale of a kidnapping gone horribly and outrageously awry. This is not new material, but in the hands of Joel and Ethan, it is the most unique film of the decade. How else do you describe a film that includes a pregnant police chief, Paul Bunyon and Babe the Blue Ox, a tan Sierra, and the most unusual and economic use of a wood-chipper ever captured on film. While all the performances are top-notch, William H. Macy and Frances McDormand propel the story with their own unequaled creations.



3. L.A. Confidential (1997)

Director Curtis Hanson's triumphant return to film noir is simply the best entry in the genre since Chinatown. While the story twists and turns through 1950s Hollywood, its plot never gets in the way of continually developing characters. The ensemble cast is flawless and contains early and outstanding performances by now up-and-coming stars Guy Pearce and Russell Crowe. The rest of the cast includes Kevin Spacey, Kim Basinger, Danny DeVito, and James Cromwell, who all turn in first class performances. At a time when old-fashioned filmmaking is rare or exploited, L.A. Confidential is the real deal.



2. The Thin Red Line (1998)

When Terrence Malick's first film in twenty years was released, it unfortunately came out the same year as Saving Private Ryan. Ryan shows war the way it actually is, while The Thin Red Line questions why war exists at all. The film is dreamlike in structure and execution. Images are placed upon images that say something about human nature while an almost continuous voice-over by the participants plays on the soundtrack. Sometimes we know who is speaking, and other times, we do not. It was not until my fourth viewing that I was able to follow one individual soldier's story. However, that is not the intention. This film is existential in its philosophy, and each individual is no more important than another. By the time the film ends, we realize it is not about a squadron at Guadalcanal; it is about everyone.



1. Schindler's List (1993)

This is the film by which Steven Spielberg should, will, and probably wants to be remembered. It is devastating in its realism, heartbreaking in its conclusion, and important in its remembrance. It is a film of sheer emotional power, unequaled in American cinema. It is a film many will and should return to in decades to come, and it will forever stand as a memorial to the lives lost in the Holocaust and a testament to the importance of each and every individual life.

Honorable Mention (in alphabetical order):

Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992)

Francis Ford Coppola's sumptuous film reinvents a classic and dazzles the senses with its primarily visual storytelling.

Breaking the Waves (1996)

A story about love and faith that is audacious in its themes, style, and complete immersion in deep emotions.

Ed Wood (1994)

An offbeat biography of the man called the worst filmmaker ever is also a strangely moving story of a man doing what he loves to do.

The Ice Storm (1997)

Ang Lee's shattering look at the culture of the 1970s is equally thought-provoking and moving.

JFK (1991)

Oliver Stone's epic story of one man's investigation into the assassination of John F. Kennedy embodies the American public's shock and bewilderment.

Malcolm X (1992)

The life of a truly and unfortunately misunderstood African-American leader is grandly told in Spike Lee's extraordinary biography.

Pleasantville (1998)

A great ode to artistic and individual expression, Pleasantville is at times satirical and at others poignant, but it is always technically and visually superb.

Rushmore (1998)

Wes Anderson's sophomore effort, it is the story of a talented young man and embodies teenage angst, wonderment, and possibilities.

Trainspotting (1996)

A darkly comic and, at times, deeply disturbing look into the drug underworld of Edinburgh is a brilliant display of style and substance living in harmonious coexistence.

The Truman Show (1998)

Peter Weir's important film is about the relationship between life and art and the need for a separation of the two.

Copyright © 2001 by Mark Dujsik. All rights reserved.

http://ofcs.rottentomatoes.com/click/movie-10000100/reviews.php?critic=other&page=1&rid=311684
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Finally, to coin a phrase that impacted the entire Western world 'Akuna Matata' it means 'NO WORRIES' and millions were IMPACTED by this FICTIOUS WORK, so entitled THE LION KING.

If WHITES can use fiction, and every other vehicle to IMPACT THE WORLD. WILLIE LYNCH CAN, WILL, SHOULD AND IS RIGHTLY USED BY INTELLIGENT, THINKING BLACKS FOR THE SAME REASON.

THEREBY MAKING WILLIE LYNCH A TRUTHFUL WORK WORTH USING AND FOR THE RECORD, I DO NO CONCEDE ONE BIT THAT IT WASN'T A FACTUAL LETTER. RATHER, JUST DEMOLISHING THIS NONSENSICAL COMMENTARY ON 'WHAT BLACKS CAN AND CANNOT USE' TO BREAK THE DEMONIC SPIRIT OF WHITE RACISM.

OKAY? End of Story!
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The lion King

http://www.lionking.org/text/FilmNotes.html

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Why The Lion King?
I think that The Lion King is certainly the best film ever made. Right after seeing the finnish version called "Leijonakuningas" at the local movie theatre, I noticed I had became emotionally attached to the movie. Whatever I do, wherever I go, It will always be significant part of my life. I haven't cried because of any movie, but even that is not completely out of the question when talking about The Lion King. It's loaded with so intense feelings. It was impressive enough to give me some kind of religious experience. Yeah, i do not profess any religions but it has absolutely nothing to do with this explanation here.


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What have we got here?
I have collected the best Lion King links to my The Lion King sources catalog. Main intention is to provide easy access to all the fantastic Lion King related sites for everyone around the internet. If you know/have good site/page that is not included, mail me the URL and I will think about adding it to my list.

There are four different versions of the video release in my collection: The Lion King (english), Leijonakuningas (finnish), Lejonkungen (swedish), Der König Der Löwen (german). If you would like to trade a finnish (PAL) version of the video for some other version I haven't got yet, send me some mail.

I have spent countless hours by doing all The Lion King related things. Watching videos, collecting merchandise and browsing the internet. As the result, I have put together The Lion King oneline quotes collection. It is a text file with 597 quotes from the movie. Use them as taglines in e-mail (like me) or whatever you like. They were clipped from The Lion King script version 3.30 html.

If you are interested, why not to take a look at the brief inventory of my collection of The Lion King merchandise. Because I am still collecting more merchandise, these lists will be updated whenever I remember to edit them. You might also like to check out my index of The Lion King trading cards.


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Personal problems
Even though I consider The Lion King as the best film ever made, there is still few things in it that I would like to change. Why is that, after stampede, Mufasa's dead body is not covered with (his own) blood and dust from the ground? He is still clean and in one piece! Oh, look, that really disturbs me! I have to use my poor imagination to render some reality to that particular scene. I know kids are terrified enough with the movie as it is, but I would like to have some kind of adults version. Another kids thing is that "Can't wait to be king" -scene. It should be funny but I think that is not so funny after all.

The Lion King is perfect, humans are not. That is also the reason why I am complaining about everything.

http://www.sci.fi/~pahartik/LionKing/
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