'The Birth of a Nation': Sundance Review

With Africans having a history older that that of ANY race on earth, where the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade is no more than one grain in the sand on the beach of African History, Black people should hold suspect, the fact that they keep [allowing Black people to] producing all these "slave" movies as if Africa, Africans and African Americans have never been anything else.  

I'm beginning to think that only allowing Black producers, writers, actors to do "slave" movies in an obviously racist industry, is really duping Black people into creating White supremacy mythology Propaganda that only stokes the egos of racist Whites and stereotypes Black people.  

Of course Nat Turner's story should be told, but I am very leery of what is going to be done to his story by [Hollywood] America's Propaganda Machine.  I'm sure it's going to wind up being something that makes the Black man look like some cold-blooded, violent brute, while absolving White people of the pure evil, sadism, and psychopathy of holding human being hostage and raping and beating, maiming and mutilating them for centuries.   

 

RadioRaheem posted:

I hope this movie doesn't have a White savoir in it.  You know someone that comes in like Superman to save the main character.  That's usually the only reason why these movies are getting made.

 

Pretty much.

 

I mean Nat Turner killed Blacks that wouldn't rebel and then he killed some White folks, I think Nat Turner is beyond redemption even from some White savior. 

White saviors comes in to redeem Black folks and give them honor, dignity and respect, there's no way Nat Turner can be absolved.

RadioRaheem posted:

I hope this movie doesn't have a White savoir in it.  You know someone that comes in like Superman to save the main character.  That's usually the only reason why these movies are getting made.

 

It could be possible to make the white journalist, a hero, that interviewed Nat Turner and printed what Nat Turner said about his whole life that culminated into the revolt he led. From that interview Nat Turner was very intelligent and well spoken and made a case for his indignation and hatred toward slave owners. 

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RadioRaheem posted:

I hope this movie doesn't have a White savoir in it.  You know someone that comes in like Superman to save the main character.  That's usually the only reason why these movies are getting made.

 

It could be possible to make the white journalist, a hero, that interviewed Nat Turner and printed what Nat Turner said about his whole life that culminated into the revolt he led. From that interview Nat Turner was very intelligent and well spoken and made a case for his indignation and hatred toward slave owners. 

 

I heard that the Sundance crowd loved this movie.  I assumed that this filmed probably touched their inner White Supremacist...just like how all the Star Wars fans hated the trailers for the recent Star Wars film with the Black lead and later loved the filmed because the main Black character was basically a buffoon.  

 

I wished that this film would have stayed in Black hands, because White hands are harmful to historical storylines....just look at the children's book about baking a cake for GW birthday.  The actually story was of a slave escape and the cake was used as a decoy...basically, it showed that the Black slave was smarter than the US President.  The white hands changed the story to depict happy slaves.....it was a book for CHILDREN!!!

 

 

I'm not trusting white hands in media productions.  

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RadioRaheem posted:

I hope this movie doesn't have a White savoir in it.  You know someone that comes in like Superman to save the main character.  That's usually the only reason why these movies are getting made.

 

It could be possible to make the white journalist, a hero, that interviewed Nat Turner and printed what Nat Turner said about his whole life that culminated into the revolt he led. From that interview Nat Turner was very intelligent and well spoken and made a case for his indignation and hatred toward slave owners. 

If White people really try to make a White Savior out of a Nat Turner movie...then they are just sick in the head. 

 

That's like making a movie about the Haitian Revolution and trying to "save" the soul of Dessalines. He slaughtered almost all the White people didn't leave Haiti and made himself a dictator. 

RadioRaheem posted:
Momentum posted:
RadioRaheem posted:

I hope this movie doesn't have a White savoir in it.  You know someone that comes in like Superman to save the main character.  That's usually the only reason why these movies are getting made.

 

It could be possible to make the white journalist, a hero, that interviewed Nat Turner and printed what Nat Turner said about his whole life that culminated into the revolt he led. From that interview Nat Turner was very intelligent and well spoken and made a case for his indignation and hatred toward slave owners. 

 

I heard that the Sundance crowd loved this movie.  I assumed that this filmed probably touched their inner White Supremacist...just like how all the Star Wars fans hated the trailers for the recent Star Wars film with the Black lead and later loved the filmed because the main Black character was basically a buffoon.  

 

I wished that this film would have stayed in Black hands, because White hands are harmful to historical storylines....just look at the children's book about baking a cake for GW birthday.  The actually story was of a slave escape and the cake was used as a decoy...basically, it showed that the Black slave was smarter than the US President.  The white hands changed the story to depict happy slaves.....it was a book for CHILDREN!!!

 

 

I'm not trusting white hands in media productions.  

White people always gotta make themselves the hero, it's part of their cultural heritage. 

 

If a Black person found the cure to cancer and they wanna make a movie about that particular Black person. The fucking White secretary is gonna the hero. 

GoodMan posted:
RadioRaheem posted:
Momentum posted:
RadioRaheem posted:

I hope this movie doesn't have a White savoir in it.  You know someone that comes in like Superman to save the main character.  That's usually the only reason why these movies are getting made.

 

It could be possible to make the white journalist, a hero, that interviewed Nat Turner and printed what Nat Turner said about his whole life that culminated into the revolt he led. From that interview Nat Turner was very intelligent and well spoken and made a case for his indignation and hatred toward slave owners. 

 

I heard that the Sundance crowd loved this movie.  I assumed that this filmed probably touched their inner White Supremacist...just like how all the Star Wars fans hated the trailers for the recent Star Wars film with the Black lead and later loved the filmed because the main Black character was basically a buffoon.  

 

I wished that this film would have stayed in Black hands, because White hands are harmful to historical storylines....just look at the children's book about baking a cake for GW birthday.  The actually story was of a slave escape and the cake was used as a decoy...basically, it showed that the Black slave was smarter than the US President.  The white hands changed the story to depict happy slaves.....it was a book for CHILDREN!!!

 

 

I'm not trusting white hands in media productions.  

White people always gotta make themselves the hero, it's part of their cultural heritage. 

 

If a Black person found the cure to cancer and they wanna make a movie about that particular Black person. The fucking White secretary is gonna the hero. 

I saw a recent example of that in the DC Sniper movie "Blue Caprice" on DVD.  I lived in the MoCo (Montgomery County, Maryland) at the time of the Sniper shootings and followed the story, as you might imagine, very closely.  In the movie, the old Army buddy that help the Feds find the sniper and 'son' was a white guy in Washington State.  He called the Feds and told them that John Muhammad and John Malvo use to take target practice on an old tree stump in his backyard.  The Feds used those gun casing/fragments to identify the DC Snipers based on the gun.  

 

Only one problem was that the actual army buddy was a Black dude (Robert Holmes).  He was one of the two people that split the reward money for helping capture the duo (the other guy was a truck driver that noticed the Blue Caprice at a MD truck stop).  Why didn't they just hire a Black actor to play the savior?  it would have been an honest portrayal of the facts.....the reason: White Power!

 

 

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