Prince vs. Michael

Have you heard that Prince has recently divorced his wife...and she was fine too.

I guess Salma Hayek must've split them up. A friend of mine emailed this quote from Prince when his current video which was directed by Salma herself:

'"Salma heard the song and came up with the original concept," Prince said. "Salma is the most thoughtful, attentive director I have ever worked with. An absolute joy."'

Hmm, methinks Salma and His Purpleness have sweated up some bedsheets. bow
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Originally posted by Huey:

'"Salma heard the song and came up with the original concept," Prince said. "Salma is the most thoughtful, attentive director I have ever worked with. An absolute joy."'

Hmm, methinks Salma and His Purpleness have sweated up some bedsheets. bow


Ain't Salma too old for Prince? Wink You know, I can picture him trying to get next to the lead PussyCat Doll, Nicole. She looks like his type.

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Originally posted by Santana St. Cloud:
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Originally posted by Huey:

'"Salma heard the song and came up with the original concept," Prince said. "Salma is the most thoughtful, attentive director I have ever worked with. An absolute joy."'

Hmm, methinks Salma and His Purpleness have sweated up some bedsheets. bow


Ain't Salma too old for Prince? Wink You know, I can picture him trying to get next to the lead PussyCat Doll, Nicole. She looks like his type.



She looks like my type, too..."The Fine As HELL" type.
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Originally posted by MBM:
Listen, as you will recall, I started this thread supporting Prince over Michael - but y'all are trippin' if you're trying to infer that MJ is somehow not talented and merely a function of marketing. What did Prince create really? (BTW - some would say that the hallmark of his music - which is a synthetic, computer-driven sound - is NOT necessarily an advancement of any kind.) In his music and dance he straight copied from the likes of James Brown as well as others from 'the day'. Ever see Prince wobble across stage? He's doing his damndest to do James Brown. Still. nono

Mike, on the other hand, CREATED a whole new way of moving on stage. Do you see Usher now? There would be no Usher w/out Mike. His whole game is a front - copying Mike's moves. Ever heard of the moon walk? Not that it is necessarily the most important discovery of the 20th century, but ain't no one ever thought a dat chit before MJ. Besides that, who dances better than him? Who?

Most importantly, who has the better/purer voice? Are you trying to tell me that Prince wit dat falsetto/gravelly whining voice can really sing? You think he can sing better than MJ? WHAT? Eek ek

OK - Prince can play a couple of instruments. BIG DEAL. He should have joined the symphony then! bsm

Y'all need to stay off dat pipe!! tongue cabbage


You certainly don't have to stop at Usher as far as those who've copped MJ's moves. How about Justin Timberlake, Omarion and Chris Brown? They may have added their own twists to it, but they are all heavily influenced by MJ's dancing.
I remember the Prince vs Michael hype... I remember when Prince won his first award at the Minnesota Music Awards; he said, "The reason I said I don't care to win awards in DMSR was because I wasn't up for any". lol

I remember back then that Farrakhan told Black women they shouldn't listen to Prince because he was making them "fall in love with themselves". Meanwhile, he heaped praise on Michael.

Although I never met Michael, I actually met a much different person than what people see in the media, when I've spoken to Prince. I do wonder though, what do they talk about between themselves, and how they deal with these kinds of divisions.

Michael garnered the ire of those in power, when he began to use his money to support "bad negroes". I wonder if the same will happen with Prince, as he grows more politically conscious?
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Originally posted by Dissident:
I miss the old Michael Jackson



Trust me, Dissident. ALL of us miss the old Michael Jackson. A friend of mine once said that if he died after winning Grammies for "Thriller," he would've been an iconic posthumous legend like James Dean or Elvis.
Micheal Jackson is horribly over rated. Prince on the other hand is an artist. He writes, pruduces and plays music. Micheal sings others songs.
Plus his songs are dumb, I'm "Bad" , what is that, "Beat It" more garbage not to mention Micheal is a nigger and a disgrace to the race.
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Originally posted by Afro Saxon:
Micheal Jackson is horribly over rated. Prince on the other hand is an artist. He writes, pruduces and plays music. Micheal sings others songs.
Plus his songs are dumb, I'm "Bad" , what is that, "Beat It" more garbage not to mention Micheal is a nigger and a disgrace to the race.


I guess Prince was originally supposed to play Wesley Snipes' role in the "Bad" video. He declined because the first line of the song is "Your butt is mine..." and he said, "Mike wasn't singin' that to me... and I definately wasn't singin' that to him".
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Originally posted by Huey:

Trust me, Dissident. ALL of us miss the old Michael Jackson. A friend of mine once said that if he died after winning Grammies for "Thriller," he would've been an iconic posthumous legend like James Dean or Elvis.


I hear ya, Huey. Thriller was the beginning of the end for Michael. If Michael's style and lyrics could have remained similar to his Off The Wall album for a few more years he just could have been that iconic figure most thought he was going to be. I was disappointed with Thriller. It was too pop tart for my taste. I knew at that time this was the route Michael was going to take. And the Bad album. Yeah, it was bad alright. So bad I didn't bother buying that garbage. This was about the time I began to dislike Michael. I wish I knew what happened to this guy.
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Originally posted by Dissident:
Thriller was the beginning of the end for Michael.


MJ jumped the shark! Razz

As I mentioned upthread, I was a huge Prince fan. But, my fandom began to wain when "Purple Rain" came out. I got on the bangwagon (okay, maybe the bandwagon was half-full) c. 1977/78 but by the time PR blew up, everybody was trying to "take a bite of [Prince's] purple rock."
One thing's for sure: If you put them alone in separate studios, each studio having the exact same instruments and equipment, and require each of them to write, perform, and produce his own songs, Prince would come out with much better and much more interesting music.

Hmmm might as well continue the debate...I don't got anything else to do at this hour.

 

The Idea that Michael Jackson didn't produce and arrange his music needs to stop.

 

Michael Jackson Co-Produced all his solo albums, did all of the background singing and vocal arrangements etc. He wrote all but 2 songs on Bad.

 

Michael Jackson almost wrote all his hit songs.

 

He wrote Don't Stop Til You Get Enough, Billie Jean, Beat it, Bad, Smooth Criminal, Dirty Diana,Can't Stop Lovin' U, The Way You Make Me Feel, Black and White, Remember The Time and Scream.

 

Michael Jackson also had better music videos and had input in those.

 

Michael Jackson also is the better performer, dancer, and singer.

 

Michael Jackson didn't play any instruments.

 

Prince produced and wrote all his albums and even played all of the instruments on some of them. Prince was also extremely pop but had adult subject matter. Michael Jackson was kid friendly.

 

I think overall, Michael Jackson has the better music, but Prince is the better auteur, Michael Jackson was going for Pop sensibilities all the way. He didn't inject his personality or thought into his music but he injected feelings.

 

Prince major commercial success ended after Signs of the Times. Michael major commercial success ended after HIStory. Both had small revivals in the early 2000s. 

 

Prince albums had a lot of hit and miss. Michael's albums were very lean and efficient.

 

I side with MIchael overall but it is close, Michael had a better peak from Off the Wall to Dangerous and I feel like Prince fizzled out too early for me. Both are among over the biggest African American music artists ever.

Originally Posted by ForeverMan:

I side with MIchael overall but it is close, Michael had a better peak from Off the Wall to Dangerous and I feel like Prince fizzled out too early for me. Both are among over the biggest African American music artists ever.

 I am partial to MJ too, but both were some of the biggest artists of the 20th century hands down.

Michael's gone permanently and it's a loss never to return.  Prince is still here to please his followers. If he were to go permanently, it would be a loss never to return.  Enjoy whoever you like while they're here.  I miss Luther, Isaac, Barry, Lou, Miles, Ray, Nat, Billy Eckstein, Billy Daniels, Charlie Parker, Sarah, Ella, Marvin, The Temptations, the list goes on and on and on.  Once they're gone, there's a void that will never be replaced. For us no one entertains like our entertainers.  It's not who's the best, they all brought something SPECIAL to the African in America's table and to our eyes and ears and to our souls; it's all about the sounds they gave that we'll NEVER HEAR EVER AGAIN and the visual performances we'll NEVER SEE AGAIN. Think about this for awhile and it could make tears come to your eyes.

Prince does not perform like he used to due to a hip replacement….

 

that said…. Prince will never perform like he used to, what used to be (in terms of live performances) is gone permanently, too.  

 

Although I'm not a fan of all things Prince, I look forward to any new music he puts out there.

 

Michael's legacy lives on also…..

 

I'm happy to say I can still enjoy Michael Jackson's music & performances via video or audio whenever I want to. 

 

Michael Jackson has previously unreleased music that is currently being released to the public (with the musical help/vocals of other artists)….

 

So, in that sense, Michael Jackson returns (much like Tupac) via his previously unreleased music.  

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG08ukJPtR8

 

Michael Jackson, Justin Timberlake - Love Never Felt So Good

 

 

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