Baby rape...(a common occurence?!)

 
January 28, 2003 7:54 PM

I could not believe what I read in a Marie Claire magazine this month. It was a article on baby rape in South Africa. When I say baby rape I mean, children reported as young as 2 months old are being raped in South Africa, but apparently this is not uncommon or old news. It was stated that baby rapes are so common in the area that few are considerd newsworthy to make the local newspapers! In 2001 alone 15,650 rapes were reported and 5,859 of the cases were childen under the age of 11. The article talked about how a 9 month old was gang raped by a group of men. I could hardly control my emotions reading the graphic article and I can't help but feel like I should help them some how. One woman even accepted money from a man infected with HIV to rape her four month old baby because he believevd having sex with a virgin would cure his disease and the article stated that 11 percent of individuals surveyed believe this also.( I have heard of people thinking that a virgin could cure the HIV virus before, but to think a mother would do that to her child just makes me beyond angry.) Many of these children are so badly damaged that they can never perform bodily functions properly or have any sexual feeling as a adult because of the damage done to their internal systems from being penetrated.

The article said for us to help we can donations(monetary donations, teddy bears, dolls, games, and books) to the children at :
Unit Commander Child Protection Unit
Private Bag X707
Port Shepstone 4240
South Africa
or monetary donations to :
Childline
123 Percy Osborn Rd.
Durban 4001
South Africa
(or)
Children's Rights Centre ICL Building
1st Floor
480 Smith Street
Durban 4001
South Africa

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January 28, 2003 10:39 PM

Better yet, I will donate my S&W .357 and a case of ammo to help in curing some of these afflictions these sick perverted men have. I don't care what kind of witchcraft you practice, what goat god you pray to, it doens't matter, raping a 2 month old baby to me is instant justification for one to the back of the head.
 
 
 
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January 28, 2003 11:02 PM

I couldn't agree with you more jazzdog.

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January 29, 2003 8:38 AM

....here again, it is very sickening to hear or find other Black people doing this. Killing, rape, baby rape, other inhumane acts run rampant throughout Black Africa. It is certain, that Nelson Mandela, others who have risked their lives to end the atrocities of apartheid to improve the quality of life in Black Africa, must be very ashamed and disgusted with such activity.

The level of bloodshed between Black people, commonly referred to as senseless Black on Black crime is also sickening. When the smoke clears from the damage that results, any outsider can easily take possession of property left behind, formerly owned by Black people.

Indeed, death by firearm, as it applies to those who rape toddlers, or older children, is being nice. Individuals who do this should be executed in plain view of the community, as a living example to let others who try the same, know what awaits them should they be so cruel, uncouth, disrespectful, perverted, low down, etc.

Besides rape of anyone, be it a toddler, an older child, or any woman, is very wrong.

Sincerely,

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January 29, 2003 1:45 PM

Msprettygirl, as gruesome as this sound I can not help but think this is another one of those e-mail scams. If there are articles can you provide them, specifically the ones this story spoke about. Thanks.

That being said, I am willing to donate funds to help buy bullets for Jazzdog 357 that we may set an example for would be child rapist.

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January 29, 2003 2:03 PM

After a little research I found what Mspretty girl has written here to be true and there is more to the story. Rape is so common in SA that women have a higher chance of being raped than learning how to read. The SA government should address this savage behaviour immediatly.

Baby rape stories.

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By all standards, some creatures are just plain strange, making us do double takes because their compositions or habits or appearances defy our sense of logic and our way of viewing reality. Take the wildebeest, the warthog, the hyena, the brown pelican, the Shar-Pei. These animals, seemingly wrought by committee, make us laugh or shake our heads. Another such creature, of the human kind -- and perhaps the strangest of all -- is the black Republican. "

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January 29, 2003 3:21 PM

OH I'm glad you found it.Yeah there was much more to the story but I didn't want to start angerly rambling on about it-which I would have if I would have typed more.(I was almost foaming at the mouth thinking about it.) I only wish I could say it was one of those false emails that gets spread around. Just listening to it sounds so inhumane that you can't help but think (and hope) that it is not real, so i can understand why u would think it was fake. THanks for that article and posting it up. If anyone was interested I was going to say that I would make copies of the article and fax them over to you so you could read it for yourself or you could just go to the store and flip through the January issue of Marie Claire magazine.

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January 29, 2003 7:34 PM

I would very much like to donate some of the children's books and toys I have to this cause!!

In addition, I think the more cases of .357 bullets the better. I would like to reload into the already dead SOB's until more live ones are brought in for their justice!!

Like msprettygirl, I really can't speak a whole lot on the subject, because it would elevate my blood pressure to unhealthy limits, and I promised my doctor I would work on that!! Eek Needless to say, I would hope that those rapists suffer the most excruciatingly painful deaths from their AIDS infections than anyone else!!! Mad Mad
 
 
 
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January 29, 2003 7:51 PM

I personally wouldn't mind donating for a fund to round these sleazebags up and deliver them to downtown Baghdad, in, say, three weeks from now. I heard about this awhile back, but I didn't realize how prevalent it was until I read this thread. This behavior is horrifying, and unforgivable.
 
 
 
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January 29, 2003 11:45 PM

Chop 'em off, shrink 'em and put 'em on poles!
 
 
 
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February 1, 2003 8:18 PM

This is the most disgusting thing I think I've ever heard. This is beyond disgusting. I'll donate those bullets and a good sharp knife too. Looks like Mandella should be addressing this issue along with others. This is truly sad. I'll gladly donate those books and toys. This just makes me want to puke and cry at the same time.
 
 
 
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February 7, 2003 8:40 PM

Is rape worse than murder? If you agree that raping a baby is criminal, is killing a baby {in war} equally criminal? Do you support the war with Iraq, where more babies will be harmed than in the cases described above?
 
 
 
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February 7, 2003 9:14 PM

Excuse me, but I know of no war plans that are purposely targeting, going after and murdering babies like these men are purposely going after these children. Innocent people die in wars no matter how just or unjust the war may be, that is a fact of history. However it is a far cry from people purposely going after and raping children for the witchcraft belief that it will cure their aids. These people believe the younger the better. They don't even come close to being the same.

Besides if the war doesn't happen these evil thugs will still be raping little girls and I have a feeling if war comes they will still be raping babies when the war is over.
 
 
 
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February 7, 2003 9:28 PM

You are of course making the obvious point that the difference in these deaths is the intention behind the act. If i get into a car accident and the victims are children then i am not to be equated with someone who intentionally targets and rapes/murders a child. But the act of war is not an accident, and the intent is to use weapons that will kill, and children will be killed. I just am being a bit of a devil's advocate, obviously, when i point out that war involves killing innocent babies, regardless of one's intent, and that should be a sobering thought and one that should give one pause.
 
 
 
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February 8, 2003 1:49 AM

To make the statement that war involves killing babies tends to imply that is the whole purpose to war. Its not, its an ugly by product that noncombatants are killed in the course of military action but war in Iraq is not the first time that will happen. From the earliest times of the Romans through our own civil war to recent conflicts in Vietnam, Greneda, Pamana noncombatants have suffered as much as soldiers in war. To reduce all that suffering down to it just happening to babies is not going to sway very many people who understand the dynamics of war.
 
 
 
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February 8, 2003 6:37 AM

then that is a shame. That's all. {PS i was the top ranked History student in school, so i know all about the history of war!! Wink Razz}
 
 
 
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February 8, 2003 6:55 AM

When THIS oncoming war is over, I don't believe anyone will be BREATHING, much less anyone RAPING. I believe the saying "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust" will be the reigning condition for EVERYONE on the entire PLANET. EARTH will look much like VENUS when all's DONE.
 
 
 
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February 9, 2003 12:45 PM

What kind of mother would allow this? The mothers need to be arrested and shot! they've already proven themselves incapable of caring for their childrens welfare.
 
 
 
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February 9, 2003 10:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Is rape worse than murder? If you agree that raping a baby is criminal, is killing a baby {in war} equally criminal? Do you support the war with Iraq, where more babies will be harmed than in the cases described above?


Just so I understand you better, are you saying that the horrific things being done to these babies in Africa are somewhat trivial compared to that of the war? Personally I don't look at it in numbers(how many babies exactly are raped or how many babies exactly are killed) to think that this is allowed to happen to even one baby angers me!

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February 10, 2003 6:37 AM

Any place on this Earth, where there's a GANG of males, females KNOW there's potential for trouble. Female lions, tigers, bears, know it and human females KNOW IT!! Take your babies and get out the way; come back when the situation cools, if that's your choice!!
 
 
 
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February 10, 2003 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by negrospiritual:
What kind of mother would allow this? The mothers need to be arrested and shot! they've already proven themselves incapable of caring for their childrens welfare.


Excuse me. Eek Isn't that taking responsibility away from the miscreants that commit these crimes?
 
 
 
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February 10, 2003 6:03 PM

222-actually I believe negrospiritual was referring to the part of the story where the woman allowed a man to rape her child for money.

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February 14, 2003 11:58 AM

What many of us fail to realize, is that we are completely different from Africans. We have a different set of beliefs and attitudes that are just like German and England, France and Spain.

Just because we are the same color does not mean a thing. They are truly sick down there but I am sure that to many, they do not think it is so.

What I see as the problem is that as economically better off than many African countries, why is the government not trying to educate everyone about AIDS? I am sure that the white populace knows better. It seems like the minority population is allowing this to continue in hopes of regaining their nation back...
 
 
 
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February 14, 2003 10:04 PM

Hum...excellent point, I never thought of it from that angle.

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February 15, 2003 3:26 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Khalilallah:

What many of us fail to realize, is that we are completely different from Africans. We have a different set of beliefs and attitudes that are just like German and England, France and Spain.

Just because we are the same color does not mean a thing.




it is true that american blacks are less like africans than white people these days, but I don't believe you will find a cultural norm anywhere on the planet that says a grown man inserting his Eek in a baby is acceptable. Allowing this, in my opinion goes against everything that is motherhood in every culture.
 
 
 
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February 17, 2003 5:46 PM

Hello I'm new here, and would like to comment on this horrendously and unfortunately, TRUE story. What is wrong with the African male? Is he a savage, brute, primate as he is behaving? He humiliates his own self before the world. Actually, I have done much research on this matter and the fact is, it was the white racists who told those dumb jackasses that 'if they rape a virgin, they will be cured of AIDS,' so they like brute beasts took to raping babies of South Africa. They did not leave it at that, they've raped senior citizens, little girls and women of all ages. It is uncanny to behold the madness in those beings.

By the way black women, this same group of brutes sees the white woman as a trophy. Marries her, puts her on a pedestal, and forces the Black woman to wash his and her feet.

Hey, sorry to be new and blunt but that is the reality staring black women the world over in the face. It is startling and maddening, and I pray we Black women unite with the 'FEW' righteous Black men, to combat this madness.
 
 
 
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February 17, 2003 7:59 PM

Wait a minute here! We are to believe that whites told south african blacks that raping little girls as young as a couple of months would cure AIDS and they believe them. Despite all what the Bible, the Koran and even other religion teaches about morality a white guy told them it was ok and they went and did it.

I think that there is alot more then just white people telling them that it was ok to do this, that would imply a IQ so low as not being able to be measured, it would imply that portions of the country are populated by sick perverted retards and thats alittle hard to swallow.

And then to top it off these same sick bastards are marrying white women and holding them up as trophies. Pardon me but what women regardless of color would want to marry some sick perverted piece of filth that rapes little girls and bring him home. And what does that have to do with the tropic of baby rape.

You make an assumption that because they rape little girls they are predisposed to marry white women who gladly accept this kind of trash and thats after getting by the fact that he has a horrible disease that will probably kill him very quickly. If they do marry white women it probably because no self-respecting black women will have anything to do with them.
 
 
 
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February 17, 2003 10:06 PM

LoveHappiness,

Where did you get this information you're citing? How gullible are these South African men supposed to be, anyway? For that explanation to work, these men still have to be thoroughly depraved to start with, because who is going to rape a baby just because he was told to?
 
 
 
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February 18, 2003 2:45 PM

Hi Jazz dog and Lea, with regard to your combined comments let me say, YES LEA, SAD BUT TRUE, it is a FACT that the males are brutish in that they acted on the white South African enemy purposely told lie of 'raping a virgin' being a cure for Aids. Check out this article.

http://www.africaonline.com/search/search.jsp?a=v&contentid=47296&languageid=1

Mind you, this is just one of many articles that talks about the origin of the VIRGIN RAPE CURE OF AIDS LIE that apparently, 'BRUTE-LIKE' MALES acted on. There are HORROR STORIES GALORE on the torture of AFRICAN, BABIES, GIRLS, AND WOMEN in general by the AFRICAN MALE. So Yes, Jazz Dog that does make them a 'SAVAGE' to behave like that. This is the reality RIGHTEOUS, TRUTH-LOVING BLACKS must deal with.

It is not our shame, but theirs, and it will do Blacks well to accept this truth and hurl it back at the whites who use the terms 'savage, barbarian' against us, when describing African men. The fact is, there are a few decent righteous African males, and we do not seek to condemn them for the actions of the vast many who behave savagely. However, we must begin to deal with the brutality of Africans which by the way, extends to referring to African/Americans as 'welfare, niggers.' Unbelievable but true, the 7 computers they have access to in Africa, and the African allowed in this country now that AFRICAN/AMERICAN LEADERS GOT CIVIL RIGHTS FOR EVERYBODY, openly avow hostility towards African/Americans and favor for whites. Whew!

Annnnnyway, let us remember that their corrupt and IGNORANT leaders ever kowtow to their white colonial masters. Colonialism may be dead in word but in deed, it is very much alive and the vast majority of Africans live in abject, poverty while the minority whites control the resources of Africa, and use them to run the Western world.

Righteous African/Americans focus should be on getting control of the resources of Africa and turning that place into a BLACK RUN CIVILIZATION of which we are entitled, for that is what our ancestors would have us to do. Our ancestors had land, that is ours' by right.

In order to do that, we must as the Bible would say, 'separate the wheat from the chaff' and we cannot separate it, if we do not acknowledge it's reality. The patriarchy African male ideology, philosophy, traditions, customs keeps African girls and women, tortured, mutilated, raped, beaten, killed, disrespected and destroyed. Which by the way Jazz Dog, is where the 'WHITE WOMAN TROPHY' factor comes in. They seem to gather sense, and gentleness as they marry and respect the white girl, who could give less than a darn if they act like primates for she is in love with the 'myth'. If they can gather goodness, kindness, for her, they can be 'trained' to do it to African baby girls, and women. However, throughout all eternity they will remain a disgrace because of their brute-like conduct and deed.

Let me re-emphasize this point, they, like SOME black males all over the world, specifically here in the U.S. managed to take on the same 'grin with the trophy white girl on arm' mentality. I mean don't KOFI ANNAN look so sweet and gentlemen like with his WHITE WIFE on his arm. What was there not enough AFRICAN WOMEN on the MAJORITY POPULATED AFRICAN CONTINENT? (that's sarcasm, of course).

None the less, African/American women must needs look upon and deal with what this reality says and what is says, is those monsters should never have control over any African woman because they are forever, bowed down, and WILLIE LYNCHED. Bottom line, it is African/American women who have the power, wealth, knowledge, intelligence, care, and goodwill to be able to reach out and fight for the liberation of the African girls and women. These women are crying out for help and it is up to Black women to get involved and help them as they would have us do.

Here is a list of other articles about the AIDS VIRUS AND SEXUAL ASSAULTS OF BABIES, GIRLS, SENIOR CITIZEN WOMEN, AND WOMEN OF ALL AGES BEING RAPED AND VIOLATED BY THAT RUTHLESS, SAVAGE SOUTH AFRICAN MALE. HE BRINGS SHAME ON HIMSELF AND THAT IS THE TRUTH BLACKS MUST DEAL WITH.

http://www.africaonline.com/search/search.jsp?keywords=South+Africa%27s+AIDS&languageid=1&submit=search

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February 18, 2003 3:36 PM

LoveHappiness (<-- !!! Are you kidding?!?),

Assuming you're right about everything you've said, what's the solution? Blame is okay if it leads you down a path to solve the problem.

If it's only leading you down the path of bitterness and more blame and anger, but no solution, then the point of your approach is obviously not to fix anything, but to vent your hostilities toward black men. If you actually care about the issues, then you really ought to put your emotional baggage aside and approach the problem differently.
 
 
 
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February 18, 2003 5:21 PM

Vox I greatly beg to differ with you. "Hostility" towards these "brutes" should be hurled by every righteous, 'TRUTH, TRUTH" HOLLERING BLACK MAN, just like they hurl it at the white racist. No offense but you sound like the white racists, "don't be angry at our evil towards you, because that makes you bad."
Big Grin

The reality is, if those African brutes, wouldn't do the evil against the person of AFRICAN WOMEN I wouldn't have to be angry at the evil. Remember black males are RIGHT when they are hollering, "THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE" when it comes to "WHITE BIGOTRY". However, it is utter hypocrisy in its ugliest form to go 'hush, hush, put away your anger' when a BLACK WOMAN ups and reveals BLACK MALE HOLOCAUST of BLACK FEMALES. So utterly preposterous that it is hiliarious.... Big Grin

Now see, I have put away my 'alleged' 'anger' that you are perceiving is putting down black males for their brute-like conduct and put on the grin that i'm sure the white man must have on him in reading your reply... Big Grin

None the less, nice chatting with you Vox... Razz
 
 
 
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February 18, 2003 5:33 PM

LoveHappiness,

I personally think that hostility toward these pieces of filth is justified, if you note my earlier messages I am ready and willing to put my .357 to good use to rid the world of this evil, however I still am having a hard time tying those black men into the subject of black men marrying white women, or the whole issue of the bowing down of african men to whites. I think they are two seperate issues both of which deserve some discussion.

You may consider yourself speaking the truth about what is happening and bless you for that, however one can't help but note that their is alot of anger and bitterness in your tone toward the black male especially those that are south african.

As I stated before I find it hard to envision any decent women white or black wanting anything to do with someone so foul and evil as to rape a baby.
 
 
 
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February 18, 2003 5:51 PM

Hi Jazz Dog, I put up the links where you can find the horror stories recounted for yourself. I'm surprised that you males answering are concentrating on the 'bitter' tone of the message and not the 'content' of the message itself. I think you might be mistaking my forthright speech with 'bitterness.' I'm just a straight shooter who holds no punches. I blast injustice wherever it is.

My voicing my outrage at evil is my ".357 shooter." By the way, I don't perceive you 'bitter' because you want to 'blast them away for killing, raping, mutilating' BLACK BABIES, GIRLS, WOMEN, SENIOR CITIZEN AND ALL AGES.' As for tying it in with the white woman, my point is, it seems these wild and untamed things know how to "mild up" and pretend to be "upright, decent, loving" men when it comes to white girls. I don't blame white girls, and in fact, applaud them for taming that mess. Eek

I'm just saying that because they SEE WHITE GIRLS AS A TROPHY IN AFRICA AND HAVE A BIG GRIN ON THEIR FACES FEELING TRIUMPHANT FOR HAVING ONE, that shows they can concentrate long enough to pretend to be human when it comes to 'white girls' yet, they have deliberate hate at black girls and women.

In other words, they are deliberately hurting the BLACK GIRLS, BABIES, SENIOR CITIZEN, AND WOME OF ALL AGES IN THEIR MIDST AND THAT MAKES THEM 'SAVAGE' OR 'SUMPTIN'.

Now do you follow me?

Annnnyway, bottom line is, Black women have to look at this reality for what it is, because truth be told, the only thing that keeps African/American women and our daughters from being treated that way is that we are not in that region. By the way, I think African/American WOMEN with 'eyes to see' get the point reaaaaaal good like.. Wink

Okay, gotta go now, nice chatting with you. Smile
 
 
 
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February 18, 2003 7:49 PM

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I'm just saying that because they SEE WHITE GIRLS AS A TROPHY IN AFRICA AND HAVE A BIG GRIN ON THEIR FACES FEELING TRIUMPHANT FOR HAVING ONE, that shows they can concentrate long enough to pretend to be human when it comes to 'white girls' yet, they have deliberate hate at black girls and women.

By the way, I think African/American WOMEN with 'eyes to see' get the point reaaaaaal good like.. Wink


This throws your whole credibility out of the window. First of all how many African men do you know personally that have white women as girl friends or wives. Go on show it. I dare you to go out into the streets in your neighbourhood and point out the Africans that are with white women let alone displaying them as trophies. The simple answer is you can't.

What you don't realise is Africans hardly marry white women anymore because there is a stigma that says only uneducated African men or those with low self esteem do this sort of thing. Another reason Africans stop going with white women is they are perceived to be of very low morals and highly promiscuous. No self respecting African man wants to be seen with a woman of such reputation.For these reasons very few Africans go out with white women. You didn't know this did you? Next time open your eyes and hopefully you can see instead of spreading so much hate and bitterness. Good luck with your crusade. I am sure the hate and bitterness you are spewing out regardless is doing these poor victims a lot of good.
 
 
 
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February 18, 2003 10:12 PM

If the South African male is so brutish, ruthless and savage, the first female to enter his life was his MOTHER. What role does she play to have raised such an animal? It's immoral. tribal, sexual psychopathic gangbanging that has overtaken these males.

If the South African male is such the rapist, how did WE become every color of beigh, brown, yellow and mellow? When men go to war, how do babies become white_____, African____, and when the men come home, those babies are completely forgotten and never thought about ever again? It wasn't love!!

There are probably more men than are realized that'll rape if the circumstances present themselves.

ALL men have the potential of being savage, brutish and primitive, it's just that MANY have a conscience and love their mothers, sisters and all the females in their lives and would NEVER do anything to bring shame or disrespect to them or to themselves and they know that if they had daughters, they'd never stand for her mistreatment in any way.

I believe when an African man hooks up with a European female, it's because she was flaunted before him during slavery as an untouchable and a goddess of some sort, and he knew he'd get lynched if he messed with her. He does it now, because he can, but he does it at his own detriment. She's not a goddess and all he has is his prior OWNER'S woman, which is another mental sickness (to me).

Every woman is somebody's daughter; every man is some woman's son! If they've messed up royally, look in the mirror.
 
 
 
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February 19, 2003 12:07 AM

The article says that this crime is rarely prosecuted, which is a clue right there that something more is going on, and it's societal.

If the S.A. government cares, then it seems like they would look to Uganda and see what they did to address the issue. If they don't, again, that's a symptom of a wider societal problem.

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February 19, 2003 1:13 PM

Like I said, LoveHappiness, if the point of the attacks is to move toward a solution, then that's one thing. Your last post didn't answer my question to you ("What's the solution?"). Pointing at a problem solely for the sake of unleashing anger is counterproductive. Now, I'm the first person to criticize blacks who harm us, and I wholeheartedly wish death on those who rape children. But you seem to be attacking black men as a whole. If black men as a whole are the problem, then again, what do you propose be done about it/them/us?
 
 
 
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February 19, 2003 2:30 PM

Hello Lea, Norland, Vox annd Henry, with regard to your collective comments, first Lea, yes Uganda has a start at some form of a plan, albeit, the males of that society are notorious for their brutality towards their women. Still, you are right, any little step of 'civility' will help at this point.

Vox you said, I am more or less "making generalizations" but in reality here is what I said, "The fact is, there are a few decent righteous African males, and we do not seek to condemn them for the actions of the vast many who behave savagely."

As for being "angry", "bitter" and other terminology. I must incredously say, "AREN'T YOU, AND IF NOT, WHY? Indeed, why wouldn't you be angry at brutes, savages, for RAPING BABIES? You males keep making a big deal out of the tone of my outrage at these atrocities against little black African babies, girls, and women in general. You mean such 'bitter' 'hateful' atrocities don't move you in any way? If it is the 'tone' of my words that bother you, then there is something askew in your emotions and thinking. The bitter savage actions against the innocent can't help but be received with "bitterness," and "anger", by any DECENT HUMAN BEING WITH NORMAL FEELINGS, CARE AND LOVE FOR HUMANITY. As such, I make no apologies for my 'BITTER,' 'ANGER' at those monsters, raping, beating, mutilating, torturing African, babies, girls, women in general. Believe it or not, they are worth fighting for, just like other nations fight for those afflicted in their societies. European Jewry when discussing the slaughters, rapes, killings of their people speak with 'anger,' and 'bitterness' and rightly so. Why is it, that my 'anger' and 'bitterness' for the unjust plight of African babies, girls, and women questioned? I reitierate, why aren't you and the others questioning my anger and bitterness for their plight not 'angry' or 'bitter' at the PROVEN deeds done against the African female population by savage African males?

Also Vox, what I am doing about it is as whoever brought the topic up doing about it, speaking out against it. Join some of the organizations like PAN AFRICA, and others who denounce it. Bring it to the public's attention and show outrage, 'anger,' and 'bitterness' on behalf of these innocent babies, girls, and women. These are but a few ways. Another is, look up the information on this and all the atrocities being committed against African women and write those organizations. However, to me the most effective is to KNOW THE TRUTH AND ACT THEREON.

Moving on, Norland, you cannot keep blaming everyone else for the brute actions of ill-bred males. In Africa, a 'PATRIARCHY' exists. Women are kept bound under the rules of ill-bred males. Women are kept illiterate, raped, beaten, diseased, demeaned, violated in ways untold, so much so, that many of them think that their FATE IN LIFE and conform to the madness. You cannot blame anyone but AFRICAN MALES FOR AFRICAN MALE'S ACTIONS.

Why, that's like blaming every African/American for 'gang activity.' We are anywhere from 22 to 33 million here in the U.S., you can't expect the woman to take the fall for male's conduct when they of their own freewill do that conduct. You said, 'the mothers raised us' but when males are jailed for selling drugs, or shootings, or any other deplorable conduct, the mothers didn't raise them to do that, they of their own freewill do it. Time and time again, I've heard ex-and current gang bangers say, 'my mother taught me different but I did it anyway.' Read Judge Mathis's book, where he says, 'his mother put him in jail for his own chosen disobedient conduct and her tough love actions turned him around.' Well, this is how it is with many out of all walks of life who do evil, they do it because they choose to do it and therefore, 'you my momma, so it's your fault' mentality don't hold water anywhere in the world, including Africa. If you behave like a savage, then you are a savage, in and of yourself, and that is what the males in Africa are. I will give you this, males all over the world are savage galore. We know the SAVAGE, DEMONIC history of the Caucasoids, but that doesn't excuse the AFRICAN SAVAGERY FOR THEIR DEEDS.

Now, as for you Henry, glad you at least admit, that you Africans did 'lust after' and 'marry' the Caucasian woman by the droves. You are in essence saying, some of you 'see the light' and consider them 'unclean.' Well, my point in bringing up the relationship forge by Caucasian girls and African males was that the African male who behaves brutishly certainly knew and know how to control that brutality with the white girls while simultaneously, these cultures societies, are filled with violence, unspeakable atrocities against BLACK/AFRICAN GIRLS, BABIES, TEEN-AGERS, SENIOR CITIZENS AND WOMEN IN GENERAL.

If they are capable of acting humane when with white girls, then they are capable of doing it with African girls, and women but choose not to and that makes them brutes of the worse sort who should never, ever, ever, have a say over any African woman on the planet at any time. African girls, women all over the world should recognize the savagery the male by his own actions are showing the world he is made of and fight like hell to establish laws to keep the brute from having any power over them. This is the only way to save their lives.
 
 
 
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February 19, 2003 3:01 PM

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Originally posted by LoveHappiness:
Now, as for you Henry, glad you at least admit, that you Africans did 'lust after' and 'marry' the Caucasian woman by the droves. You are in essence saying, some of you 'see the light' and consider them 'unclean.' Well, my point in bringing up the relationship forge by Caucasian girls and African males was that the African male who behaves brutishly certainly knew and know how to control that brutality with the white girls while simultaneously, these cultures societies, are filled with violence, unspeakable atrocities against BLACK/AFRICAN GIRLS, BABIES, TEEN-AGERS, SENIOR CITIZENS AND WOMEN IN GENERAL.

If they are capable of acting humane when with white girls, then they are capable of doing it with African girls, and women but choose not to and that makes them brutes of the worse sort who should never, ever, ever, have a say over any African woman on the planet at any time. African girls, women all over the world should recognize the savagery the male by his own actions are showing the world he is made of and fight like hell to establish laws to keep the brute from having any power over them. This is the only way to save their lives.

LoveHappiness
Here is a USEFUL research you can carry out here in America
Ring up the local court houses and get their latest statistics on Divorce actions in the community

Whites ............ What Percentage
Western Blacks......What percentage
Africans............What percentage

With regard to Africans I am confident you would find the percentage is very low. This brings up a VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION. If these men are as savage and brutish as you describe why do these women stay with them HERE IN AMERICA?

Did it ever occur to you that the most stable family union is in the African community? As I said to you elsewhere you have personal problems don't confuse it with showing concern about an issue which any rational person male or female, white or black is appalled with. No one is excusing these evil men it is your generalisations and vicious attack of black men that is a bother.

I am sure you mean well and your heart is in the right place. I commend you for that. What I have a problem with is your approach. You don't offer solutions all you are doing is insulting and approaching the subject in a bitter spiteful manner. That attitude is what is alarming me because by your conduct you are doing more damage than all these evil men put together. Your way of tackling the problem is taking away attention from the evil to focus on the loud empty abuse and insults you are spitting out. Anyone reading you would be appalled.

The first time I heard about this evil of baby rape was very recently. I grew up in West Africa and have not come across or heard of such an evil act before. I belong to an organisation called the blackNation. When we heard this information the first reaction was disbelief. The next action we took was to send the information out to everyone on our mailing list white or black and ask for support to tackle this evil. The BlackNation was set up by Africans to bring black people around the world to work together for our common good. Do you think we tried to sit on the story, no we were appalled and have launched an ongoing battle against this ignorance by a minority of black men.

So the matter is in hand and everyone hearing the story male or female, Africans and black people around the world are shocked and appalled. Those of us who are in the position of doing something are doing what we can to name and shame these men and denounce their actions.

You on the other hand by your actions would allow these perpetrators escape notice because we would be too busy and preoccupied dealing with your insults, the rift you seek to sew between Africans and western blacks and also your hate and bitterness. All these on your part take away from finding solutions. My advice to you is please draw attention to the evil but give up the insults and your hate language. You would not get very far in life with that kind of attitude.

[This message was edited by henry38 on February 19, 2003 at 12:11 PM.]
 
 
 
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February 19, 2003 3:35 PM

Ah, alas Henry leeeeeet it go already! You are not going to convince me that your 'mild, docile, 'we told them to be nice approach' to those brutes is the 'solution' you're doling out. In fact, you are not going to stop a strong-willed, determined, forthright, geniune, person like me, from speaking my mind as I SEE FIT!

I don't complain about your 'docility' in addressing the matter so don't you complain, nor Judge, my forthright, assault on those brutes. If they weren't 'BRUTISH, AND SAVAGE' in their conduct to African, babies, girls, and women in general, then I wouldn't have to assault their madness. Besides that, just because you a MALE no less, don't appreciate the truth, it doesn't follow that African girls and women mind me telling it like it is. They are just happy someone is showing care, and outrage at their unfortunate plight.

As for comparing 'how many of you Africans are dating white girls' that is not the point. For one thing, I wouldn't bat an eye, if all of you did it. Every single one of you. That is not my issue. I have no problem with IR dating, my point with bringing it up, (had you been truly listening instead of MIS-judging) you would have known was to show, that whatever reason black males give for it, it is because of as you say, they are gullible and can be easily led astray and as so, who needs that kind of foolish one proclaiming 'RULE' over African women. I dare say, African women, abused by brutes in their midst pray God that the white girls will take them. More power to them.

I reitierate, Black males who behave that way, annd Henry, listen carefully, NOT ALL DO, but those who do, show that it is OUT OF CHOICE to so behave like ruthless, barbarians, and as so, should have no RULE over women at all!

Now, I am not going to continously go on and on with you about this issue. The fact is as I first came on the post proclaiming, BLACK SAVAGE MALES OF AFRICA ARE RAPING, BEATING, TORUTURING, MUTILATING, INNOCENT BLACK BABIES, GIRLS, AND WOMEN IN GENERAL. MAY EVERYONE GET INVOLVE AND DENOUNCE THESE BRUTES SO MUCH SO THAT WE SHOULD CALL ON MILITARY TRIBUNALS TO SEEK THEM OUT AND DESTROY THEM!!!!!

THAT IS ALL!!! Cool
 
 
 
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