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Re: President Obama orders hospital visitation rights for gays, lesbians

sunnubian ·
The key here is: requires the HHS regulations to guarantee hospitals honor all patients' advance directives , which include stipulations such as who should make health care decisions if the patient isn't able to do so This is a good thing not only for gays, but for all Americans. There are plently of people that do not have strong family ties, may be astranged from their family or spouses, or may come from a family that cannot be trusted to carry our their explicit wishes under such...
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Re: President Obama orders hospital visitation rights for gays, lesbians

EbonyRose ·
I agree, sunnubian. I don't understand why this type of thing has not been in force for everyone for this long! Just because someone is "family" doesn't make them good or right or automatically have your best interest at heart. To say that only family can make (good) health decisions for someone else is just archaic .... and should have been done away with ages ago. This argument between "states rights" and "federal involvement" is a slippery slope when it comes to things such as this ...
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Re: President Obama orders hospital visitation rights for gays, lesbians

Yemaya ·
Actually in my view this should have nothing to do with the Federal or State government. A great example of how states are treading on individual liberties. @Sunnubian: your story is a great example of why black people should stop being afraid to get a will. When I got my done in Texas, I was able to add on a medical/living will to my final will. Please first thing, first make sure you have a will and modify it as needed!
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Re: President Obama orders hospital visitation rights for gays, lesbians

NSpirit ·
Reference: I don't understand why this type of thing has not been in force for everyone for this long! Just because someone is "family" doesn't make them good or right or automatically have your best interest at heart. To say that only family can make (good) health decisions for someone else is just archaic .... and should have been done away with ages ago. For court proceedings, guardianship, custody,and adoptions; someone who is not your biological parent or legal relative via marriage...
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Re: President Obama orders hospital visitation rights for gays, lesbians

EbonyRose ·
Reference by NSpirit: I don't know if it's the same way for adults, but it seems to be a protection (for both individuals and institutions) to keep any ole person from walking in off the street and saying "that's my godbaby, take him off life support" or "that's my playsister, she don't need dialysis, she just gonna live out what time she got left in peace" And you know .. I completely understand that, especially in cases of children's best interests being at stake. And when kids are...
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Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

sunnubian ·
Oh, wow, and he looks like he would have had to "go elsewhere" for his degree in medicine, fair education, and even the ability to open and operate a business- dr.'s office, etc., so far down in the deep south had it not been for the civil rights Americans now enjoy that Liberals , and African Americans fought and died for making his success even possible in America.
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Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

Yemaya ·
You know, and his patients as well as their insurance companies should be taking their money else where. Jackass. That was just a stupid thing to say.
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Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

Cholly ·
News Interview with Dr. Cassell & Mrs Estella Chapman, who photographed the sign and made it nationwide. Dr. Cassel was interviewed by CNN's Anderson Cooper and it was revealed that Dr. Cassell's office is located in a community consisting of majority African Americans. Two separate videos: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21...vp/36155021#36155021 http://www.cnn.com/video/?/vid...hates.obamacare.wftv (video that follows is Anderson Cooper's 5 minute interview with Dr. Cassell)
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Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

EbonyRose ·
It's best that the Black people in his care find out how untrustworthy, unprofessional and mentally/emotionally challenged he is before it's too late.
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Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

Huey ·
I hope the doctor loses his license. Doesn't he know that he's breaking his Hippocratic Oath for refusing sick people??
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Re: Obama Shouldn’t Trumpet a Black Agenda

EbonyRose ·
"The Black Agenda is the American Agenda" ???? WTH is that supposed to mean? Exactly? I mean ... What is he defining as "the Black Agenda" , first of all? Does he have one? And if so, where'd he get it? And what does it contain? And, secondly, how does he figure the two can be reconciled? Or that they even should be?
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Re: Obama Shouldn’t Trumpet a Black Agenda

Kweli4Real ·
If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times ... The only tact that PRESIDENT OBAMA can take that could be considered a "Black Agenda" would be to develop [and call it] an "American Agenda" that focuses on those areas that disproportionately affect Black folks. If there is a Gay Agenda, a Hispanic Agenda, a Women's Agenda [and there are], is it less effective because it is not being trumpeted by any sympathetic, but [would be] suicidal chief executive? No ... If, We, Black Folks...
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Re: Obama Shouldn’t Trumpet a Black Agenda

Noah The African ·
Like I said prior to the election, a black president, at this time, would usher in the END to the era of the black struggle. I don’t know what people generally use as a problem solving methodology, but you cannot intelligently solve a problem without targeting the specifics of that problem. When one decides not to target it, they essentially have decided not to fix it. No targeting, no fixing. It’s as simple as that. In the laws of physics, any object that is removed from its state of...
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Re: Obama Shouldn’t Trumpet a Black Agenda

NSpirit ·
Noah, I agree with much of what's in your post except for your attempt to equate Democrat and Republican behavior. I believe we've had this discussion before. I am disgusted with the democrats for their lack of leadership, their timid leadership, and their willingness to be just as corporate influenced as republicans are. From the top down with the exception of perhaps Nancy Pelosi, the democrats are a disappointment. However, they do not have entire networks devoted to making republicans...
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Re: Obama Shouldn’t Trumpet a Black Agenda

NSpirit ·
Reference: While the nation is paralyzed by political us-vs-them, it’s slowly circling the drain economically. Those issues cannot be addressed because it will be unpopular. Politics is a popularity contest and you don’t win popularity contest by telling people things that they don’t want to hear, such as having to make sacrifices. The whole thing is just BS today. There is little value in listening to politicians, their promises and the like, because they are essentially just worried about...
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Re: Obama Shouldn’t Trumpet a Black Agenda

Noah The African ·
Just because the democrats lack power, relatively speaking, it does not mean that they are any more righteous. An evil guy with a machine gun can do more damage that an evil guy with a 22, but it does not mean that one is better than the other because they did less damage. The democrats might not have the same tools at their disposal, but that does not make them morally superior….just weaker. I also take issue with your general assertion. Bush and the Republicans were demonized by democratic...
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Re: Obama Shouldn’t Trumpet a Black Agenda

Noah The African ·
More examples of the Oppossite: Like I said...if you don't target....the Majority will disproportionately get the benefits...which is the historical status quo. Thiis is why Obama stance is counter productive for black people. http://www.detnews.com/article...ral-stimulus-dollars
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Re: A Photo to Cleanse the Palate

Noah The African ·
Its funny....but "this great country" is a phrase that I rarely heard black folks say until Obama became President.
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Re: A Photo to Cleanse the Palate

Cholly ·
NOA, maybe over your decades of living, this rarity of the phrase only comes from the Black people that you know or associate with. My relatives & my late grandfather (God rest his soul) said it all the time before he passed away 38 years ago.
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Re: A Photo to Cleanse the Palate

EbonyRose ·
Hmmm ... I was gonna say the Lincoln portrait could go because he'd be out of place in that room full of Black Congressional leaders! However ... there is tell that if you were to shake Lincoln's family tree .... some dark-skinned leaves might fall out of it! So maybe not! I like the picture for the irony of the fact that in Lincoln's day, the Black people in that room would have been serving the dinner rather than eating it themselves! That is the beauty of it, IMO.
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Re: A Photo to Cleanse the Palate

Yemaya ·
The image most Whites are deathly afraid of . . . now a reality. . .
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Re: A Photo to Cleanse the Palate

James Wesley Chester ·
Very interesting. A photo of a presidential dinner, and....the only European male in the room IS NOT...IS NOT the President. I think I like it. I think I like it. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: A Photo to Cleanse the Palate

Cholly ·
JWC, I think that that the European that you speak of in the photo is actually Black. George Kenneth "G.K." Butterfield grew up in a prominent black family in Wilson, North Carolina . Both of his parents had white ancestors. [ 1 ] Butterfield's father emigrated to the United States from Bermuda. : Quote from an interview titled "Pot & Kettle" by Confressman Butterfield . "Now, what's interesting about the aforementioned article is what a particular U.S. Representative had to say about...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Noah The African ·
Is it just me or does that statement sound contradictory? Maybe I am confused about who does the grading, but in a Representative Republic, I assume that it is THE PEOPLE. Hence, if he is REALLY GOOD in his first term, then people would elect him to a second term…no? If he is mediocre, in these times, then people will not elect him to a second term…no? Obama, in my opinion, is a master of talking the talk, but falls well short of walking the walk. During the campaign people got caught up in...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Vox ·
I don't see anything wrong with his statement, Noah. Whether he will be that "really good" president remains to be seen, of course, but I say the same thing about Bill Clinton all the time. His major blemish, which in my mind tarnished his entire presidency, was the way he intentionally played semantic games in an attempt to keep US troops from intervening to stop the Rwanda genocide. He obviously did that to avoid further damage to his poll numbers, since at that time he was terribly...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Noah The African ·
I hear you Vox. If what you say is true, then being a really good President must not include acknowledging and proposing policy that deals with entrenched racial inequality in this nation. I mean, if I am interpreting you correctly, you are saying that Obama will do what is best and good, regardless if it threatens his reelection. So if that were the case, I expect that he would come out swinging in promotion of racial equality. However, that is hardly the case, which can only be interpreted...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

EbonyRose ·
Reference: So if that were the case, I expect that he would come out swinging in promotion of racial equality Why?
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

shulamite ·
I think his words were well meaning, but politically it was a very stupid thing to say. And he'll pay for it in the re-election campaign. It will be hard to reverse that image in voters' minds. He NEEDS the votes of the independents (who are reversing to the GOP these days). If he isn't all that knocked out about getting re-elected, then why should they jump the fence to his side? I can't fathom why he'd even admit that politically, unless he and Michelle have privately agreed to hang it up.
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

NSpirit ·
Shulamite said: I think his words were well meaning, but politically it was a very stupid thing to say. And he'll pay for it in the re-election campaign. It will be hard to reverse that image in voters' minds. Yeah that Exactly
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Nquest ·
Reference: His major blemish, which in my mind tarnished his entire presidency, was the way he intentionally played semantic games in an attempt to keep US troops from intervening to stop the Rwanda genocide. He obviously did that to avoid further damage to his poll numbers, since at that time he was terribly unpopular. White voters, he figured, wouldn't want us committing troops in Africa to keep negro savages from killing each other, especially after Somalia. Hmmm... I'm trying to figure...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Noah The African ·
LOL…I don’t like Politicians. Bill Clinton was a politician. Regardless of where a president stands on the issue of race, in a representative republic full of racist, a president will be beholden to the prejudice of the electorate. This is why I have said that the color of the electorate is more important than the color of the candidate, because the policy of the candidate/incumbent will reflect the mindset of the electorate and not the mindset of the racial group that they happen to belong...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Xumbrarchist ·
But with the state of America and the world can anybody figure out what a GOOD president is? Xum
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Nquest ·
Reference: LOL…I don’t like Politicians. Bill Clinton was a politician. STOP LYING!!! Reference: Regardless of where a president stands on the issue of race, in a representative republic full of racist, a president will be beholden to the prejudice of the electorate. Which makes your previous comment all the more stupid. If you truly believe what you say about president's (or politicians) being beholden to America's representative republic as currently constituted, "full of racists", then...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Nquest ·
Reference: What Noah has argued is that a black person governing a solidly majority white electorate will do LESS for black people than an equally liberal white person would. And your argument is complete bs because you have also dismissed the problematic policies of Democratic/liberal politicians/presidents with your patented "white folks will be white folks" attitude or this bs "I don't like politicians" retort that does nothing to address your numerous Massa Clinton defenses. For someone...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Noah The African ·
I will repeat....I have a long, long record of saying that OBama would not do for black folks and that he would overcompensate away from our issues to comfort whites. That is what is happening while Negroes were thinking that during the campaign he was just faking out white folks while winking at black folks. I am pretty sure you will not go searching the database for the history that backs up what I have just said.....LOL...because it does not support your agenda to skirt the truth in order...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Nquest ·
Reference: it does not support your agenda to skirt the truth in order to attempt to discredit. What is my agenda, Noah, other than trying to stop you from skirting the issue here? Your "long, long record of saying that OBama would not do for black folks" does NOTHING to explain this EXPECTATION of yours and, in fact, is the very thing at issue here. Stop being so damn slow. Your "long, long record of saying that OBama would not do for black folks" coupled with your view about America's...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Noah The African ·
Reference: And your argument is complete bs because you have also dismissed the problematic policies of Democratic/liberal politicians/presidents with your patented "white folks will be white folks" attitude or this bs "I don't like politicians" retort that does nothing to address your numerous Massa Clinton defenses. For someone who CLAIMS (it's just a claim, Noah... not something you've demonstrated) not to like politicians, you sure have shown a curious affinity towards the Clintons,...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Nquest ·
Reference: If Obama was not worried about being reelected and deep in his mind and heart he felt that racial inequality is an injustice and moral wrong never reconciled, then being a REALLY GOOD PRESIDENT will manifest in him doing THE RIGHT THING, like championing racial equality. And you EXPECT Obama would champion racial equality... why? Again, you're the person who said presidents/politicians are BEHOLDEN to a representative republic "full of racists." The two ideas do not square with...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Noah The African ·
Reference: It simply doesn't make sense for you to have an EXPECTATION that Obama would promote whatever it is you see the kind of policies that would establish/institute "racial equality" when your long, long record of saying "Obama would not do for black folks" and your history of saying presidents/politicians are beholden to an electorate "full of racists." Whenever you're ready, Noah... I will gladly answer if you can present the supposed contradiction in a more lucid manner. I don't...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Noah The African ·
Reference: And you EXPECT Obama would champion racial equality... why? Again, you're the person who said presidents/politicians are BEHOLDEN to a representative republic "full of racists." The two ideas do not square with each other. You have two conflicting EXPECTATIONS and nothing you've said has presented the basis for the former -- i.e. why you EXPECT Obama to champion racial equality. No...I am not the stupid mofo who voted for him!!! what the hell are you talking about. If I...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Nquest ·
Reference: "white folks will be white folks"....what do you think that means? Exactly what you said... Reference: ? One would have to assume that I did not know the Role that whites have played in ending slavery or Jim Crow....to suggest what you are trying to suggest. I suggested nothing. It's not my fault that you're having a bout with acute SELF-HATRED. You said that shit. Maybe you should stop trying to be so flip... Further, there was no suggestion made other than you use statements...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Nquest ·
Reference: No...I am not the stupid mofo who voted for him!!! All the more reason why your EXPECTATION is stupid. Look at your sorry azz RUN from explaining why you EXPECT Obama, the Obama you said "would not do for black folks", to champion racial equality. Again, WHERE DOES THAT EXPECTATION COME FROM? Anytime, Noah... Anytime...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Nquest ·
Reference: I don't want to assume but I never said that I have an expecations of Obama to do things while governing a racist nation? Noah, this whole conversation started with you saying: "So if that were the case, I expect that he would come out swinging in promotion of racial equality. " That's the EXPECTATION I'm asking you about. Even by your own admission, Obama could see being a "really good president" as something that doesn't include whatever you believe establishing "racial...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Noah The African ·
Reference: All the more reason why your EXPECTATION is stupid. Look at your sorry azz RUN from explaining why you EXPECT Obama, the Obama you said "would not do for black folks", to champion racial equality. Again, WHERE DOES THAT EXPECTATION COME FROM? Anytime, Noah... Anytime... The intent to discredit creates the intent to misunderstand. Go back and look at the context of my orignal statement. The expectations is not MINE....but Obama's. Obama said that he would rather be a really good...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Nquest ·
Reference: I seek to defend TRUTH and FAIRNESS and Clinton may have been an object in my defense of truth and or fairness Noah, this nonsense from you is beginning to sound like Whites who defensively say they are not racist. It's just not credible. The mere fact that you and they feel compelled to say it vs. demonstrating it and letting their (post)actions speak for them proves the opposite. TRUTH and FAIRNESS would have you apply the same standard and have the same EXPECTATIONS of Clinton...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Nquest ·
Reference: Obama said that he would rather be a really good President and risk not being elected, than to be mediocre. BS... You said: " I expect that he would come out swinging in promotion of racial equality. " And the ORIGINAL CONTEXT of Obama's remarks have to do with the health care reform issue. Not whatever you believe "racial equality" entails. Again, it's easy to see how you and Obama or any number of Black people may differ when it comes to what that means and how to get there.
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Noah The African ·
Reference: I hear you Vox. If what you say is true, then being a really good President must not include acknowledging and proposing policy that deals with entrenched racial inequality in this nation . I mean, if I am interpreting you correctly, you are saying that Obama will do what is best and good, regardless if it threatens his reelection . So if that were the case, I expect that he would come out swinging in promotion of racial equality . However, that is hardly the case, which can only...
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Re: Obama: I'd rather be a really good one term president than mediocre two term president

Nquest ·
Reference: The key minor premise is "racial inequality being BAD for the nation". And the major issue is you imposing your thoughts and trying to call them Obama's. Again, Obama himself when questioned about what he was doing for Black people talked about health care reform, etc. as policies that would disproportionately help African-Americans. So, its easy to see how Obama could already see the things he's doing as not only the kind of things a "really good president" would do but as the...
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