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Re: The Divide Between Blacks and the Irish

kresge ·
These are images from Harpers Weekly of the rioters, most of whom where Irish. They were upset about conscription into the Union army while the wealthy white citizens (of English extraction) kept themselves and their sons out of harms way. The first two images are of lynchings of African Americans, and the last is the burning of the African American orphanage.
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Re: The Divide Between Blacks and the Irish

kresge ·
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

James Wesley Chester ·
I agree. How? Everytime I have considered a solution for the problem, it came down to the same thing. Money. We are...essentially...followers. Most people are. Success in the effort REQUIRES money. It is the vote that exercises the ultimate power. A political action committee (PAC) enables both. Starting first with a national PAC, then extending into every State and Protectorate seems the strategic thing to do. Now what? PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
Actually, JWC ... and I don't mean for this to sound as condescending as it probably does, but I believe that what you're suggesting is a bit too complicated for us to handle at this time. Nor can we really afford to wait for the implementation of such a complex process to be formed and take hold. IMO, the simplicity of exercising our right to vote is the biggest benefit to being able to immediately implement the power to begin obtaining our goals. As was seen with the election of President...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

James Wesley Chester ·
I think you are missing the point. It is true that all you have to do to be effective with a vote is to do it. How do you make that happen is the point. One is talk. The other is action. Like I said, 'Now What?' There must be an applied method. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
Hmmm ... well, that's the $64,000 question, now isn't it? I'll tell ya, JWC, I don't think there is any one method .. and by extension, answer to that question, really. President Obama was able to do it through a pretty much ground-floor-up grassroots effort of getting the message out (in his case he was selling "hope"). I would think the same kind of effort could be implemented within our community to encourage people to start going to the polls. Some of these newly re-emerging...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Noah The African ·
When I attempted to open this topic……the text did no load in my outdated version of internet explorer that I am running. It was the ONLY topic thread; I kid you not, which would not open. Is that a sign? Is black unity in these times a non-starter that just will not load under the existing framework? I could not read the text until I opened the site using Mozilla’s Firefox browsers. That strange experience notwithstanding, human nature should be understood, first and foremost, as it governs...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
What does UNITY mean in practice? Xum
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Re: Report: Number of Black Men in College Decreases

Xumbrarchist ·
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG9CE55wbtY Xum
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
{{{ Logical positivism is a way of thinking popular in the mid-20th century which attempted to make philosophy more rigorous by creating criteria for evaluating the truth or falsity of certain philosophical statements. Its main criteria for any statement is verifiability, which comes from two different sources: empirical statements, which come from science, and analytic truth, statements which are true or false by definition. Logical positivism heavily influenced philosophy of science,...
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Re: Report: Number of Black Men in College Decreases

EbonyRose ·
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Re: Report: Number of Black Men in College Decreases

Xumbrarchist ·
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0wk4qG2mIg
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Re: Report: Number of Black Men in College Decreases

Cholly ·
Xumbrarchist , so in essence, it's the exact same thing that been taught in science class throughout our lifetime; grade/middle/high school & college science. It's just that one omission (earth's tilt) of that one detail that's taught by teachers. It reveals a lot but blame the scientific academics who came to that final conclusion and failed to correct the error in the text books. Don't blame the teachers and the student. The teachers only taught what was in the books and students only...
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Re: Report: Number of Black Men in College Decreases

Vox ·
Not that I think Umbrarchist's point is relevant to your post, Cholly. It's definitely another topic. But... NO textbook teaches that the seasons happen because the earth gets closer to the sun as it revolves. Those Harvard students had no clue, and they probably came up with that explanation on the fly, for fear of people thinking they were stupid. There's no way they learned that from either a textbook or a science class.
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Re: Harvard Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. Donates Handcuffs To Smithsonian Black History Museum

Yemaya ·
Our genealogy group was laughing about this today.... we were all wondering how he even got the handcuffs....
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
Reference: What does UNITY mean in practice? Being willing to look out for somebody other than yourself. At least it used to ... when we had it. Before integration, we used to didn't have to give consideration to "others" ... other than ourselves. In fact, interaction with Whites was highly discouraged ... 'cause it usually brought on misery and pain. Sometimes death. So Black people consciously looked out for each other ... we knew our neighbors and would come together and helped them out...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Noah The African ·
Looking out for someone other than oneself is not called unity, but rather, compassion and or benevolence. Unity is defined, by disctionary.com, as combining into one. My avatar is a Unity Man carving from Ghana. Are we seeking geographic unity, economic unity, emotional unity, cognitive unity, religious unity, ect, or all of the above? Does unity manifest as willful separation?
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
(i.e., racism, the (in)justice system, discriminatory economic policies, the (mis-)education of our children, etc.) So what has been stopping Black Americans from creating book lists for out children? Wouldn't the NAACP be a good centralized organization to handle that? We act like all education comes from schools which are controlled and certified by Whites. What if 75% of the important information that a person knows comes from outside of White controlled schools. Why should the palefaces...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
Reference: So what has been stopping Black Americans from creating book lists for out children? I believe the reason is because we don't have a long entrenched experience of cloaking our children in education. Free and available access to it is only about a generation or so old. Historically, while our ancestors always fought for, valued and encouraged education that they didn't have for their children, for most of them it just didn't happen that way. Many families couldn't have afforded...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

James Wesley Chester ·
It just needs to be done---EbonyRose Now we are going to analyze 'unity'?? Include all the 'black' people of the world?? The first steps with: 1. some define an entity 2. establish a bank account (treasury) 3. advertise the exist 4. invite participation. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
{{{ Include all the 'black' people of the world?? The first steps with: 1. some define an entity 2. establish a bank account (treasury) 3. advertise the exist 4. invite participation. }}} How about define objectives and admit the obstacles to those objectives both external and internal? How to deal with the DAWGs? [Dumb Ass White Guys] Xum PS - OK, I admit it. I have an ATTITUDE Problem.
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

kresge ·
Reference: So what has been stopping Black Americans from creating book lists for out children? A book list is no substitute for education. Not even close. I have said it before, but I guess that it bears repeating. While there are certainly things to commend about autodidacts, they often do not evince the ability to integrate, assimilate, analyze, and critically evaluate material. Most people need systems and structures to facilitate the schemetization of information and knowledge. In other...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Noah The African ·
I think we were designed to learn biologically, so I disagree that we have to be taught to learn. Observation and emulation (practice) is the most natural and hence efficient means of learning. All animals learn this way and humans don’t get an exception from this rule. The key to learning is INTEREST and receiving pleasure from it. Things one finds pleasure in they will do it as often as possible. People become computer whiz kids because they love playing around with computer code. People...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Raptor ·
Wilson gives an interesting perspective regarding education (among other things) as it pertains to black folks. If you don't mind check this piece out. I am interested in what you all think about his comments regarding education and how might we go about it. (start at the 0:57 point of the clip) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...&feature=related
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
Reference: A book list is no substitute for education. It depends on what you think education means. To me education means the acquisition of relevant knowledge . Now that can be done by schooling but that does not mean it is the only way. We tend to assume that people got their knowledge of a particular subject from schooling but how can you ever know? You only see the result. Now if the grade schools kill children's curiosity and knowledge must be forced in after that then schooling is...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
Reference by JWC: Now we are going to analyze 'unity'?? Include all the 'black' people of the world?? The first steps with: 1. some define an entity 2. establish a bank account (treasury) 3. advertise the exist 4. invite participation. Whoa there, Mr. Chester! You're putting the cart before my horse, here! At least at this moment in time, what I am suggesting is not on that big of a scale! Ultimately achieving a 'world-wide' unity of African people everywhere is a goal we need to strive for.
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
Reference: If you don't mind check this piece out. I am interested in what you all think about his comments regarding education and how might we go about it. It sounds to me like what he is talking about is something we would need our own schools where we teach our own children to accomplish. Fortunately, that type of education is already taking place in various areas around the country. Unfortunately, the scale of such educational platforms are few ... and only a limited number of our...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
This is an interview with Queen Latifah (conducted by Tavis Smiley - just a warning for those who have trouble stomaching him! ) ... but, her comments on the problems with educating our children were dead-on. She has become the new ambassador for the Milton Hershey Academy, which provides a stable, effective learning environment for minority and low-income students and gives them opportunities for success that they otherwise wouldn't have. http://www.pbs.org/kcet/taviss...vid=1445283926#video
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

James Wesley Chester ·
My 'action list' is for African America. That's the right scale. Someone else began talking about the world. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Vox ·
Reference: What is needed more than books is a culture that values learning and education, that is not anti-intellectual, and that embraces discursivity. Agreed. And tying this into the concept of "unity," you can't get there (to "unity") except through the use of some sort of centralized process. A book list is a good idea, but anything like that has to be done in the course of compulsory education. The black population here is around 40 million now, and even if you could somehow split that...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Noah The African ·
Well, none of this makes sense to me. Books, list, ect….makes no sense at all to me. Here we are as black people, who originate from a continent that is flourishing with natural resources, who have black presidents and Prime Ministers, legislator’s judicial appointees. It’s strange because the structure that we seek already exists….in Africa. If you water the root the leaves will flourish. The root for black people is Africa, but we don’t water it, but instead, water the roots that grow...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
Reference: If you don't mind check this piece out. I am interested in what you all think about his comments regarding education and how might we go about it. Do you suppose he means something like understanding double-entry accounting which is 700 years old? How hard can it be with today's computers? Does he mean like understanding technology to tell when Whitey is trying to sell us crap designed to become obsolete. That would come under DEPRECIATION in the accounting. Physics affects...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Yemaya ·
The unity of Black Americans AND sovereignty is a complex issue that will require a whole lot of hands on work. However, the first step will be a mind change. This was the first step that our enemies used to destroy us by killing our natural minds. Until we get our minds and children's minds in order we're screwed.
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
Even if we significantly improved 20% of the schools, which I think is highly unlikely, what does that do for the kids at the other 80%? So regardless of the schools these cheap netbooks are a way to reach any kid that can get his hands on one. And a Coby smartbook is supposed to be out for $85 very soon. That isn't even one day's salary for a teacher. So what can be done to stimulate a kid's curiosity with an $85 device? I am not a teacher but I think curiosity is extremely important. Then...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

kresge ·
Reference: So regardless of the schools these cheap netbooks are a way to reach any kid that can get his hands on one. And a Coby smartbook is supposed to be out for $85 very soon. That isn't even one day's salary for a teacher. So what can be done to stimulate a kid's curiosity with an $85 device? I am not a teacher but I think curiosity is extremely important. Then it is more a matter of getting out of the kid's way and answering questions now and then. Xum, This conversation reminds me of...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
I won't bother with the Bible comparison. {{{ I submit that the same problem obtains with respect to giving youth netbooks without instruction. I believe that they would be a powerful add to instruction in a supervised setting, but that in the absence of such, that curiosity is not a sufficient guarantor of a successful experience. }}} So you think I needed instruction besides the manual to build this when I was in grade school? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PeWq6oqeZI That is the funny...
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Re: Why Not a Black Party?

James Wesley Chester ·
Professor Walters certainly has 'been there, done that'. It is clear the 'divide' begins even at the very early point of what the name of any organization addressing the issues of African Americans, should be. I don't believe a political party for this purpose is viable. Too many, and too diverse a selection of, issues. A PAC would allow the organizers to specify the focus of the organization. I say that because the organizers are likely to be the ones who bring the 'seed money'. Those who...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
Physics can be downloaded. Some libraries have wireless. Go in with a netbook and not have to wait on their computers. http://www.lightandmatter.com/area1book1.html But without the device the options are much more limited. Today 11 paperback books cost $88, In 5 to 10 years it will be child abuse for a kid to not have a computer. ROFL Xum
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Re: Why Not a Black Party?

sunnubian ·
I agree James. The Right and the Media would have a field day with it being called The Black Party in the first place. It would be mischaracterized by the right in the media and the media would be more than happy to get the ratings they would receive by airing the misinformation. I think that a Peoples party would be more in order considering that it was they people of America that elected President Obama, it was people of all races, all incomes, all walks of life here in American that...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
Reference by Yemaya: The unity of Black Americans AND sovereignty is a complex issue that will require a whole lot of hands on work. However, the first step will be a mind change. This was the first step that our enemies used to destroy us by killing our natural minds. Until we get our minds and children's minds in order we're screwed. That could be a really long wait.
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

EbonyRose ·
Reference: The trouble with the schools is they try to make you interested in what they decide and competing with other kids is supposed to be a motivator. Like who cares? This is true .. today ... but the reason is because it has been federally mandated for schools, teachers and even students to perform in this manner. Growing up, at every level of education, I had a variety of choices as to what I wanted to learn. And my only real competition was with myself ... not against other students...
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Re: Why Not a Black Party?

EbonyRose ·
There was something I didn't like (or maybe couldn't agree with ) about this article ... but I just can't place my finger on exactly what that is ....
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
{{{ Added to that is a point that Kresge bought up ... that technology is not our strong suit ... and not only because of the number of our people who are simply uninterested in it (I know several Black people who own computers, but only use it for the one or two things that it serves their purpose for and that's it!) While your special interest in science and technology and sci-fi and self-education is commendable ... and works really well for you ... the reality of the situation is that...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

James Wesley Chester ·
Doesn't that say the last 45 years of variations in cars that roll along the ground at less than 130 mph has been nothing but useless bullshit? So we spent decades going into debt for useless variations. It is late for learning about technology. We should have been on it 40 years ago. I have no patience for people saying we shouldn't be on it now.---Xum This has always been the case...with technology, cars, fuel, medicine, etc. Airplanes have had 'automatic' brakes for decades before cars.
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Re: Why Not a Black Party?

James Wesley Chester ·
I think that a Peoples party would be more in order considering that it was they people of America that elected President Obama, it was people of all races, all incomes, all walks of life here in American that elected our president, so it should be those same people to come out in support of President Obama and in opposition to racist America trying to camouflauge itself under to guise of ' tea party.---sunnubian I hear you, but.... I think the focus of the organization should be clearly on...
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Re: Why Not a Black Party?

EbonyRose ·
Okay ... I re-read this article - again - because y'all seem to understand what he is talking about. And me ... I seem to continue to end up mired in confusion about his intent. I can't figure out if what he's talking about would be best served by a PAC, a political party, or some sort of (non-political) Black-focused committee/council/think tank/organization of 'leaders' or "Talented 10th"-type people (for lack of a better description at the moment). These are three entirely different...
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Re: The Road to Black Unity and Empowerment

Xumbrarchist ·
Reference: This has always been the case...with technology, cars, fuel, medicine, etc. It hasn't always been the case that you could buy a computer for less than one day's salary for a teacher. It hasn't always been the case that you could carry that computer into a library and access the internet for free. The $85 Coby isn't available yet but it is supposed to happen this spring. So here is a physics book perfectly legal. http://www.lightandmatter.com/area1book1.html Here is an e-book for...
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Re: A Photo to Cleanse the Palate

Noah The African ·
Its funny....but "this great country" is a phrase that I rarely heard black folks say until Obama became President.
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Re: A Photo to Cleanse the Palate

Cholly ·
NOA, maybe over your decades of living, this rarity of the phrase only comes from the Black people that you know or associate with. My relatives & my late grandfather (God rest his soul) said it all the time before he passed away 38 years ago.
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Re: A Photo to Cleanse the Palate

EbonyRose ·
Hmmm ... I was gonna say the Lincoln portrait could go because he'd be out of place in that room full of Black Congressional leaders! However ... there is tell that if you were to shake Lincoln's family tree .... some dark-skinned leaves might fall out of it! So maybe not! I like the picture for the irony of the fact that in Lincoln's day, the Black people in that room would have been serving the dinner rather than eating it themselves! That is the beauty of it, IMO.
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